Author Topic: [UNBANNED][CS] Unban request-Bizzare (pub) [Judge:X] (Read 287 times)

bizzare_k5 · « **on:** January 07, 2015, 08:13:26 pm »

Hi , just got unfairly banned today for "racism" I'm like wtf man

?? I play with the name "I kill innocent muslim people" since I was 24 that's 4 years a got !!!!! What f***ing reason to ban me is that ? and at the same time was some tawt playing with "I kill innocent christian people" but ne never got banned from foxx or whatever his name is ..... I ask you nicely to unban me because i wasn't racist with anyone, my nickname is harmless as "I like to eat apples" so please stop this admin from banning people for no good reasons !!!!! I am an ex payd solider and i did fight in Kabul and Afghanistan in the past but that has nothing to to with this virtual game.

Thank you very much.

Best Regards, I kill innocent muslim people

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ArKy- · « **Reply #2 on:** January 07, 2015, 08:18:15 pm »

fill the correct form
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Koray · « **Reply #3 on:** January 07, 2015, 08:25:36 pm »

'Nicely'

Bruh, change attidute and come back.

X-KilleR · « **Reply #4 on:** January 07, 2015, 08:59:58 pm »

so "kill Christians or muslim" isn't racist or anti ethnic ?! well you need 2 things:
to be banned
google racism

Zole · « **Reply #5 on:** January 07, 2015, 10:52:07 pm »

Quote from: bizzare_k5 on January 07, 2015, 08:13:26 pm

Hi , just got unfairly banned today for "racism" I'm like wtf man ?? I play with the name "I kill innocent muslim people" since I was 24 that's 4 years a got !!!!! What f***ing reason to ban me is that ? and at the same time was some tawt playing with "I kill innocent christian people" but ne never got banned from foxx or whatever his name is ..... I ask you nicely to unban me because i wasn't racist with anyone, my nickname is harmless as "I like to eat apples" so please stop this admin from banning people for no good reasons !!!!! I am an ex payd solider and i did fight in Kabul and Afghanistan in the past but that has nothing to to with this virtual game.

Thank you very much.

Best Regards, I kill innocent muslim people

This guy is still joking right?!, ending his post with racism ...

Legion · « **Reply #6 on:** January 07, 2015, 11:23:25 pm »

Hello,

1. Are you kidding me?
2. Kabul is the capital of Afghanistan.
3. Fighting an unjust war is nothing to be proud of.
4. Rasicm/Fasicm will not be tolerated here.
5. You were probably not permbanned
6. Looking at your topic...you didn't learn anything from the ban.
7. You should apologize and change that ignorant name.
8. Are you kidding me?

Legion

D00M · « **Reply #7 on:** January 07, 2015, 11:46:50 pm »

I don't see any racism here? I mean like "I kill innocent muslim people" how the **** is that racist? Muslim is a religion, i dont see any racist statements about that.. it is like "I like to eat candy" and you ban him.

Legion · « **Reply #8 on:** January 07, 2015, 11:56:25 pm »

Ok Doom,

Fascism is also not allowed.

Im not sure why im explaining this.
He obviously refers to Arabs/Afghani's/Iraqi's/Iranians etc etc etc using the word Muslim to cover it all.

I see you want to get technical about the use of the word Racism. But it doesnt really matter, whatever it is --> It's not allowed

It obviously is offensive to a lot of people/players.

black star · « **Reply #9 on:** January 08, 2015, 12:42:16 am »

Nickname I kill innocent muslim people
SteamID STEAM_0:1:15885816
Steam Community ID 76561197992037361
IP address hidden
Ban type IP
Reason racism
Invoked on 07.01.2015 - 19:55:36
Expires on Not applicable
Banned by foxX*
Banned on Ambrosia Public| ambrosia-servers.eu (de_inferno)
Total expired bans 0

@Legion it is perm ^^

Legion · « **Reply #10 on:** January 08, 2015, 01:35:01 am »

Allright,

I do think a permban is a bit much. Unless he was warned multiple times etc.

thEnd · « **Reply #11 on:** January 08, 2015, 06:56:58 am »

Is "I kill innocent people" racism or fascism or whatsoever?
Is "I kill atheist people" racism?

The answer is no. Yes, it is offensive nickname as "I kill someone" is offending by itself, and these "someone" would be a group of society and it might touch a very sensitive margin of being too offensive.

However excuse me my Muslim friends that I have many, but playing here in comments "Muslim/Arab/Allah" card is not the best practice how to deal with this matter. Admins always have an option to use amx to change players nicks to "change nick or ambrosiafan1 etc.

Permban and supporting permban is way too far of good standarts as servers and community are based in Europe, not in Saudi Arabia where this player might be sentenced irl ...

Touching religion in multicultural community is always a taboo, but mostly Muslims are overreacting comparing to the other religious groups and I have no doubt that this might came up in a future as it was happening in the past. But permban without following steps - warn/act (changenick) - kick - ban, was not applied in this case and therefore I think player must be unbanned with note that his nick in the future would be more sensitive to Muslims for sake of peace in the server and community. Also I would ask to all fundamental Muslims in this community to be more open minded to Europeans (that Christian roots) and don't bring racism/fascism* card to the table, unless someone is really offensive.

* For me as fan of history is interesting to see how now days Russian media and people are playing with term - fascism. If you would learn more about fascism that originates from Italy in 1930`s then you would be not able to see much connection between these too words - racism and fascism. Same applies for nacism - fascism. Please stop using this misinterpreted word - fascism in this thread plox.

Mr.Swag · « **Reply #12 on:** January 08, 2015, 07:17:36 am »

a Permanent ban is actually too much , infact you could of have warned him then used amx_nick or kick him

in the beginning and that was only his name , he didn't have a bad attitude with players or something .

but anyway Good Luck bizzare_k5

and please use the correct form that Fuji replied with !

X-KilleR · « **Reply #13 on:** January 08, 2015, 07:26:30 am »

Ok, guys muslims don't over react, fascism ,racism started from Europe Btw ,read history., stop watching MSM .there is too many muslims in this community, saying "mostly" are overreacting, it is just a free accusation against a large part of players ,admins playing here for years. This community is based on respect, respect whites, arabs, blacks, asians, respect their beliefs their religions and their cultures. Disrespectful behaviour will create more conflicts in the community.
Rules are rules ,Christian ,muslims or jews ,we don't care, don't ever disrespectf others here, i know exactly what is the intension behind this and you deserve a punishement
Now, for the admin, you should start by changing his Nick, asking, kicking then banning, but not perm ban, can you explain why?
Now guys keep on, any off topics from now will be deleted, and the poster warned

Andrew` · « **Reply #14 on:** January 08, 2015, 09:45:48 am »

Racism is "attacking" someone's race through words, if 90℅ of CS players are muslims, and he kills them, how is that racist? However, mister @bizzare_k5 , it CAN be considered as totally provoking towards them which is not a good thing.

So to sum up, I don't think it was even worth a ban, maybe asking the player kindly to change his nick(which I've never seen happen) and maybe a warning or kick or leave it, if noone's complaining. Racism and fascism are too heavy words too be used like this.

Awaiting for admin foxx's reply, or else you will be unbanned soon.

P.S. I would also like to know if it's true that there was someone with the same nick but with "christians" and didn't get the same treatment.

Fisu · « **Reply #15 on:** January 08, 2015, 09:53:28 am »

Hei Bizzare

I would like to explain why your nick is seen as being racist:

"I kill innocent People" is the Basic of your sentence (Name). By that you won't get anyone telling you that you are racist. Now, your Name: I kill innocent MUSLIM People, this is based and is only ment for MUSLIMS, so you actually go straight against muslims including many Players and members of Ambrosia. So yes you are being racist.

By Apologizing I guess you'll have bigger chances of getting your ban lowerd.

thEnd · « **Reply #16 on:** January 08, 2015, 10:08:27 am »

Quote from: Fisu on January 08, 2015, 09:53:28 am

Hei Bizzare

I would like to explain why your nick is seen as being racist:

"I kill innocent People" is the Basic of your sentence (Name). By that you won't get anyone telling you that you are racist. Now, your Name: I kill innocent MUSLIM People, this is based and is only ment for MUSLIMS, so you actually go straight against muslims including many Players and members of Ambrosia. So yes you are being racist.

By Apologizing I guess you'll have bigger chances of getting your ban lowerd.

What you would do If you would see a guy with a nickname "I kill innocent people" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misanthropy)
The person would not be banned our touched if even its offensive nick whilst playing a shooting game where we kill terrorists..

Any other social group nickname or offensive slang is treated much differently than Muslims/Arabs/Allah.

Its not the first time when ambrosian admin with Muslim background bans instantly with no warnings if the person is touching anything connected to Islam. And this is wrong. Fisu, you have permbaned guys with no warnings before so I know what you will say on this, but however this is a bit ridiculous servers and forums are virtual live/place where everything is a bit different.. Please visit more 4chan and reddit to see how racism slurs are dealt there... Yeah no racism but also no overreacting from Muslim moderators. (or I havent seen any).

What Im trying to say is that what happen in France shows partly the problem, that Europeans are looking differently and god/religion/race than Muslims, and especially in place like internet, everything must be taken with more non serious note.. Its the web..

No racism seen in killing innocent Latvian or Muslims or gays or putins... We kill everyday.. Virtually..

Fisu · « **Reply #17 on:** January 08, 2015, 10:25:28 am »

Quote from: thEnd on January 08, 2015, 10:08:27 am

Quote from: Fisu on January 08, 2015, 09:53:28 am
Hei Bizzare

I would like to explain why your nick is seen as being racist:

"I kill innocent People" is the Basic of your sentence (Name). By that you won't get anyone telling you that you are racist. Now, your Name: I kill innocent MUSLIM People, this is based and is only ment for MUSLIMS, so you actually go straight against muslims including many Players and members of Ambrosia. So yes you are being racist.

By Apologizing I guess you'll have bigger chances of getting your ban lowerd.

What you would do If you would see a guy with a nickname "I kill innocent people" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misanthropy)
The person would not be banned our touched if even its offensive nick whilst playing a shooting game where we kill terrorists..

Any other social group nickname or offensive slang is treated much differently than Muslims/Arabs/Allah.

Its not the first time when ambrosian admin with Muslim background bans instantly with no warnings if the person is touching anything connected to Islam. And this is wrong. Fisu, you have permbaned guys with no warnings before so I know what you will say on this, but however this is a bit ridiculous servers and forums are virtual live/place where everything is a bit different.. Please visit more 4chan and reddit to see how racism slurs are dealt there... Yeah no racism but also no overreacting from Muslim moderators. (or I havent seen any).

What Im trying to say is that what happen in France shows partly the problem, that Europeans are looking differently and god/religion/race than Muslims, and especially in place like internet, everything must be taken with more non serious note.. Its the web..

No racism seen in killing innocent Latvian or Muslims or gays or putins... We kill everyday.. Virtually..

The Point is, he goes directly against Muslims by saying that and this what I call being racist. I have never permbanned without giving warnings - lol. What I did is bann racists permban and let them come apologize here and then they got unbanned (Which is in my eyes the best way to deal).

Because you woulden't feel offended it isnt being racist? As you can see the admin did feel offended, yet the permban wasn't the solution, I would of went with a warning and after that with a ban. AND by the way, you dont even know if the Player has beenwarned or not.

+ By saying what happend in France, you are actually showing that you don't have any idea about who's a muslim and who's a Terrorist. Stop comparing terrorists, with muslims.

This pretty much went offtopic. Join a Server 70% or more are muslims, all of them feel offended by that nickname. I myself would Change it and tell him not to put it back. So yea, wait for the admin to come and explain now.

SilverQuick · « **Reply #18 on:** January 08, 2015, 10:54:26 am »

Some people are just so immature.

bizzare_k5 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 08, 2015, 12:06:06 pm »

Yes, the ban was without any warning at all, as I was saying, at some point there was this player with the nickname "I kill innocent christian people" but he never got banned I guess that wasn't racist, but never mind that. I would apologies if I would been warned through console message like ex " admin : Change your nickname because it's offensive to some other players". All I can do is change my name and enjoy the game if I get unbanned.