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Offline Chris

[Surf]What's next?
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:35:23 am »
So are you guys going to stick with Gungame or change it back to Classic?

The admin team of Surf doesn't even play Surf anymore.
Not even the regulars, it's just a bunch of randoms now.

Shouldn't that be a sign of how bad Gungame actually is?

I hope you take this into consideration.

ps: Give Rubix the chance to actually manage the server.

Offline taha

Re: What's next?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 07:46:30 am »
I agree ... I don't play surf anymore and do not administrate, mainly because my rights were kind of bugged ( pw in config is different ) but still I tried to join like two days ago , but couldn't play , frankly I do not care about kills and all I want is to surf peacefully , it really helps me to chill , so guys if you want a gg surf server , by all means go for it , I don't mind , everybody has his own tastes and choices , but consider ours too!
What I can suggest to please both sides is to install a kind of multimod plugin I remember stevko installed in surf back.in the days , where on certain maps the server would be csdm surf and on other maps it will be classic !
This is simply a suggestion as I highly prefer a different server , especially a cs:go surf server seeing that those are having huge success ( I reckon that they are number 1 in gametracker regarding modded servers ! )

thank you based god !!11!1!

Offline CoiNNN

Re: What's next?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 08:19:03 am »
Same here. Use to love surfing, now its just randomers playing. Surf just died



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Re: What's next?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 08:38:05 am »
In order to have it a little bit like the old SurfServer, we should add campometer at each place of each map, do not add cage. But I liked the old server more =)

Offline NexT

Re: What's next?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 10:08:56 am »
If admins on surf do not want to administrate the server then resign.

Offline CoiNNN

Re: What's next?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 10:16:54 am »
If admins on surf do not want to administrate the server then resign.

Non of the admins play on surf... So surf would have 0 admins. = full of cheaters = gg



Offline Cowboy

Re: What's next?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 10:18:11 am »
If admins on surf do not want to administrate the server then resign.

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No commant.

i hope high staff understand what we are looking for..

Offline NexT

Re: What's next?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 11:14:33 am »
Cowboy i have nothing against anyone here but i don't know whats wrong with people mate, Now i do not wanna open a big discussion but the thing is once we launched the server some said its bad without playing then all others took a bad image about the server and now when you say surf they say bad server , And i bet they didn't even try playing more than once.

Okay they might be used to classic surf but try this its not that bad we made it and thought we would get some support like always we get suppoted by all on anything, But on this i don't know whats wrong with people.

And about the resign its a true thing mate, People applied and got accepted to administrate the server and i repeat the server not the mod, I guess now you understand my point.

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Offline Ed

Re: What's next?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 11:30:25 am »
I agree ... I don't play surf anymore and do not administrate, mainly because my rights were kind of bugged ( pw in config is different ) but still I tried to join like two days ago , but couldn't play , frankly I do not care about kills and all I want is to surf peacefully , it really helps me to chill , so guys if you want a gg surf server , by all means go for it , I don't mind , everybody has his own tastes and choices , but consider ours too!
What I can suggest to please both sides is to install a kind of multimod plugin I remember stevko installed in surf back.in the days , where on certain maps the server would be csdm surf and on other maps it will be classic !
This is simply a suggestion as I highly prefer a different server , especially a cs:go surf server seeing that those are having huge success ( I reckon that they are number 1 in gametracker regarding modded servers ! )

I think this is a best way to go, after all people tend to have negative attitude here against surf gg.
Why don't you try that guys?
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Offline Pringles

Re: What's next?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2014, 11:44:48 am »
I have been playing in the server since you change it to gungame.

At the beginning it was playable since there were not a lot of players in the server and so you could still surf pretty well without getting killed or blocked.

By combining the surf and the gungame mods, you make surely people come but have you ever wondered why they come? I mean if the server attracts people is only due to the fact that you can get kills easier since you can camp next to the spawn and backstab.

Now the server is quite messed up. I mean what's the idea of surf behind it? We cannot surf anymore since you have 75% of chances of either being blocked by someone or being killed by an someone who is surely using aimbot. And the surf map has not even a point of being anymore since there is not even a point anymore of making the map nor going to the gunroom since this will not be a benefit neither for you nor for your score.

And don't get it wrong, I still play the mod but I'm sure that you can make something better.

Cheers.

Offline Noex'

Re: What's next?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2014, 03:45:40 pm »
I played classic surf earlier really liked it. Un-playable now so many cheaters and no admins at all i tried it 2-3 times and you either get blocked or killed by a camper as refresh said.

Hope you bring back classic surf so at least we can have 1 admin online when we need one .


Offline Rubix

Re: What's next?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 04:19:50 pm »
For some, Surf GunGame is a viable mod of which they come back to play consistently.
Unfortunately, this is not the case for the current server.
The Surf GG server has absolutely NO player-base, meaning that there are no regulars, just a server reliant on bots and cheaters from boosts.
The server was boosted around 3 times in a very small period which meant that the server would be full constantly. The players in the server from the boost almost never returned from what i'd seen since I was monitoring the progress of the server whilst I let Shark and whoever worked on it do their work.
What the boosts did was give a false sense of success of which made some people think that the change of mod had increased the amount of players substantially, which of course, is not the case.
The boosts that were done on the server would have been way more effective on the previous server if well maintained due to having a fairly diverse and SKILLED player-base of which returned to the server religiously and enjoyed what the server had to offer.
I predict that once the essence of the boosts fade away, so will the player count in the server and will eventually hit 0 players throughout the day.

Carrying on with the boosts, it would be impossible to compare the performance of a server which had been boosted numerous times, with a server which hadn't been boosted in over 6 months. This would lead to clear bias in the GG server since it had a very high player count due to the boosts and I believe - nothing else.

This leads on to another thing, quantity over quality.
What I have planned is not to help develop a server which is constantly full 24/7. This would be amazing to do so, but more of a bi product of what I have in mind.
What the current servers goal is, is to keep a full server full of players of whom may no necessarily be enjoying the server, but merely playing there due to being redirected.
What we need for the server is a clean environment for skilled and beginners to enjoy playing with each other at all hours of the day, in a kind and fair environment. This may not produce the most amount of players ever with the server running of it's own steam, but will attract an undeniably large number of players normally than what a GG server would do running by itself with no aid.

Ambrosia is known for having 1.6 servers of a high grade and quality, but the current server is nothing but the opposite of this. Ambrosia surf is known for a skilled player base with fair admins and a calm, relaxed and overall great community. Having the current server tarnishes this statement, and so I feel that along with the help of players such as Chris, Cowboy and Xraa, I will be able to produce a server to a high level to attract a large amount of players and please the player base I lost when the server switched mods.

I will not turn my back on the idea of Surf GG, as it worked for other communities such as Neondragon, but remember, we are not nD, we are Ambrosia and we mustn't try to be something that we're not.
We were original and unique, and unless we revert to our old ways, we will not progress as a community and on an individual level.
For the sake of the server, please revert it back.

One more thing I would like to add is that a separate GG server only (without surf) would be a far better idea than the current Surf GG. I do not think it's wise to mix two major mods together into one, and so I will suggest a GG server instead of the current SF GG.

Thank you.
If only TS3 was like this all the time <3




Offline Xraa

Re: What's next?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2014, 04:27:13 pm »
Yeah, just scroll a bit through the old discussion topics in the Surf section. This was literally what every Surfer (who played the mod 2-3 years before) expected to happen to the Server!
I mean you try to combine two completely diffrent mods, one thing is surfing (where your moving all the time basically and make awesome moves) and the other one is a gungame where you just dm 24/7 at any spots to win the mod as fast as possible.

The idea behind this was from the beginning a mistake. It may be true that the statistics on other Servers were good and alot of Player used to play it, but i guess no one knew how its looking behind the scenes (Like their Adminteam and stuff)?

To Next, we didnt said the Mod sucks because we just wanted to keep playing Classic surf. We already had the Mod like 1-2 Months before (with all those bugs) and we didnt enjoy playing because it was bugging, it was just that no one liked the whole mod at all. And some new maps and a surf board  wont attract someone to keep playing there (even if i appreciate the work all of you guys have done etc.).

Basically its not a Surf Server in my eyes though, at the moment its just a GunGame Server with wierd maps, OP spots and a decent amount of hackers. (which dont get banned or anything)

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Re: What's next?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2014, 04:38:45 pm »
Carrying on with the boosts, it would be impossible to compare the performance of a server which had been boosted numerous times, with a server which hadn't been boosted in over 6 months. This would lead to clear bias in the GG server since it had a very high player count due to the boosts and I believe - nothing else.

I would like to point something out actually, i've seen several people claiming surf classic failed and surf gg succeeded.

Take a look at this please.



Whereas only the last 13 boosts were made on classic surf.




So that's 13 boosts in comparison to 18 boosts, respectively surf classic in comparison to surf gg
that while surf classic exists for about 3 years+ and surf gg exists about 2 months.
that's 13 boosts in 3 years and 18 boosts in 2 months.

It's not fair comparing those two servers simply because nobody gave classic a chance.



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« Last Edit: November 18, 2014, 04:53:16 pm by Pim »


Offline NexT

Re: What's next?
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2014, 04:50:45 pm »
Roni and i have an idea in mind and we will discuss it with the highstaff team, I'm sure this will make you guys happy so just be patient and you will see..

Topic locked till we reveal the idea and we do it

Offline Rubix

Re: What's next?
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2014, 04:52:01 pm »
I'd rather this was an open discussion rather than a hidden one...
If only TS3 was like this all the time <3




Offline NexT

Re: What's next?
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2014, 05:56:58 pm »
I guess you know what will happen if you keep it open ..

Also we found a solution so why not lock it ?

Offline Rubix

Re: What's next?
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2014, 06:00:41 pm »
I guess you know what will happen if you keep it open ..

Also we found a solution so why not lock it ?

It's not about finding a solution and bang locking it, it's about keeping the players informed and letting them discuss the topic here.
They know we don't tolerate inappropriate behavior, and so i'm sure they will keep in line.
If only TS3 was like this all the time <3




Offline NexT

Re: What's next?
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2014, 06:15:44 pm »
Okey hopefully the other surf topic discussion won't happen again ..

Unlock request by rubix for discussion idk about what tho :D

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Re: What's next?
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2014, 06:50:04 pm »
So basically, when we had classic surf, admins "Rarely" play and the server was mainly empty.
We have gungame, admins don't play, but server is basically full even without boosts.
Personally, i prefer gun-game. But i guess there's no solution for these 2 since there's 2 kinds of people.