[Surf]What's next?

[SharkX69]

Again a topic about surf.

Listen guys nothin personal but i want to ask you to stop doing such topics as for the moment theres nothin in plans in changing back the server.
And im gonna ask you that for the reason that server is still new. I know we had the mod past months too but it wasnt working properly.
Now its only a couple of months or less that works properly.

Also server is doing really well.
I saw Rubix you said server has no player base. Well you are wrong and all of you cant have a valid opinion for the server as you all admit you dont play there.
Since you dont play how can you have a valid opinion about player base and everything else that concerns server?
And im sure about what im saying as im monitoring the server daily i ban a lot of cheaters check banlist for that and i can assure you that there are regulars in server and hopefully more will come.

Server isnt boosted for days now and there are times per day that hits 32/32 without boost.
That means we got activity from people who kept server in favorites.

Also all of you say that theres no point of surf anymore.
Well there is cause im a good surfer aswell and i surf i dont fall in jail and just kill and there are other good surfers in server who surf and if you were active you would know that.
Yes there are also players who dont know how to surf and they fall in jail but the same will happen to classic surf.
If a player dont know to surf then no matter classic surf or gg surf or dm surf he will do the same by falling in jail try to get some kills til he learn to surf in time.

I spend most of my hours in this server and its a lot believe me but i never seen one of you ingame except few times that you come by for not even a map and leave.
So you cannot say server failed or that theres no player base or anything else since you dont play there.

So like i said server isnt about to change back.
If anyone wants to discuss something about improving the server or suggest anything for the current server is welcomed to do it but no more discussion about changing it back.

Thank you!

[taha]

So basically, when we had classic surf, admins "Rarely" play and the server was mainly empty.
We have gungame, admins don't play, but server is basically full even without boosts.
Personally, i prefer gun-game. But i guess there's no solution for these 2 since there's 2 kinds of people.

what are you on ? I my self before my "break" was active and I can vouch for many active admins that were active way more than me like chris , christina ,santa and even leopard from time to time !
the surf server wasn't empty , it only had a very few good elite player player base and wasn't boosted that much ...
and please can you like check the stats Pim just posted ?
Sorry mate I love you but you are just sprouting nonsense and kind of attacking us and blaming us ! I didn't really want to take sides in this discussion even though I much much much much much prefer classic server than GG but you leave me no choice there ...

[Cowboy]

Cowboy i have nothing against anyone here but i don't know whats wrong with people mate, Now i do not wanna open a big discussion but the thing is once we launched the server some said its bad without playing then all others took a bad image about the server and now when you say surf they say bad server , And i bet they didn't even try playing more than once.

actually we played this mode and we dont like it , we asked u many times to return our old surf server but u wont ,i know you dont care about what we are looking for you just care about server rank on gametracker but it is going with bots+hackers? , 2 moths is enough i think??
as i asid you lost every thing at surf (old surf) to get nothing "GG SURF" , 2 months and hackers having fun there no admins no one cares..just wow and u still saying we didnt give it a chance srsly guys?? wait u saying its surf server right? hell no its not surf anymore.., surf=skills and amazing moves not camping for more kills it should be " GG camp server" not "GG surf"..

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i'm sure these guys didn't understand anything because they dont know how old surf server was..anyway thank u guys for trying to explain..

Roni and i have an idea in mind and we will discuss it with the highstaff team, I'm sure this will make you guys happy so just be patient and you will see..

see i told you..
u done GG surf in deathrun map so let me guss what its gonna be..jailbreak surf server or BB surf nono hns surf server is the best its gonna be amazing trust me...its gonna be 3,4 in 1  jailbreak + surf +BB +hns so amazing.
for f*ck sake no more stupid ideas..pls
i got a great idea for u guys what about stop trying ideas at our server and go try at ur own server?

I think this is a best way to go, after all people tend to have negative attitude here against surf gg.
Why don't you try that guys?

Im sure you didnt try it.
GG surf with Deathrun map is that good?? :O
ITS A DISASTER
guys you can't Force us to play something we don't like.

So basically, when we had classic surf, admins "Rarely" play and the server was mainly empty.
We have gungame, admins don't play, but server is basically full even without boosts.
Personally, i prefer gun-game. But i guess there's no solution for these 2 since there's 2 kinds of people.

when we had classic surf all players were playing surf not only admins we had Elite , sf*warz and learning guys clans..server was pretty good and you guys f*cked up the server.
GG surf is full without boost jsut one thing to say are u drunk or blind??
WE Want old surf server.
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want to say somthing to shark stop wasting your money and your time for nothing
boosting server just for getting bots and we are lossing our old players so pls

['PL']

Just fix this surf like these guys want.



Let Jb get all the drama :DDDD

[SharkX69]

Cowboy i believe you didnt read my previous post.
Read it please.

Server wont change back at least for now and read Ray's post as it correct aswell.
Classic surf was abandon by its admins aswell past months was totally empty almost 24/7 so we are not gonna change it back for 5 admins to enjoy what they want.
And nobody is forcing you to play something you dont like.
 And i repeat read my previous post.

[Chris]

I still don't know why you make these decision out of the blue, so what you're Emperor, there's
a Head Admin for a reason, to manage the server no? Not to watch how you ruin the damn server.

Just because Surf Gungame is successful on another community doesn't mean it will on Ambrosia.

And why are you like "Again a topic about surf"?

Yes again a topic of someone who is fighting back to a person who is making bad decision and
just won't listen to the majority.Wasn't this a community?



@Dr.Shark  How did you monitor Surf Classic? With your eyes closed?
The server was getting around 10 to 15 players from time to time with admins online.
So don't talk nonsense.

Also server is doing really well.

Server isnt boosted for days now and there are times per day that hits 32/32 without boost.
That means we got activity from people who kept server in favorites.

Classic would also survive if it was that much boosted in 2 months.

[Rubix]

I saw Rubix you said server has no player base. Well you are wrong and all of you cant have a valid opinion for the server as you all admit you dont play there.
Since you dont play how can you have a valid opinion about player base and everything else that concerns server?

Just want to point out, it's been a couple of days since the last boost, and so there the server will still be rather high up on the masterserver ^^

[Ray]

So basically, when we had classic surf, admins "Rarely" play and the server was mainly empty.
We have gungame, admins don't play, but server is basically full even without boosts.
Personally, i prefer gun-game. But i guess there's no solution for these 2 since there's 2 kinds of people.

when we had classic surf all players were playing surf not only admins we had Elite , sf*warz and learning guys clans..server was pretty good and you guys f*cked up the server.
GG surf is full without boost jsut one thing to say are u drunk or blind??
WE Want old surf server.
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want to say somthing to shark stop wasting your money and your time for nothing
boosting server just for getting bots and we are lossing our old players so pls

I don't think you're understanding at all what i said.
When we had admins, Elite, SF*WarZ and learning guys, i was actually admin and SF*WarZ and an active individual on surf.
The only reason i stopped playing is because server became empty. So i continued playing few times when there was players.
And i'm not talking about THAT phase. I'm talking about the time AFTER that where the server was reduced to 6-7 players average daily.
Those players might be good players, admins, loyal ambrosians, but 32/32 is still better than that.
And whoever is saying it was 10-15 all time, well i'm sorry but i think you're just looking at a period of 1 hour per day.

[Noex']

Still better to have 2 admins and 7 players rather then 32 players and no admins .

[Cowboy]

i read what u said shark "gg server is doing really well with bot's many hackers and no admins"
i played this mode more than 2 weeks and its really sucks..
and u wont return our old surf server so for me surf is dead.

and about ray's post its not correct..gg surf server is full with out boosts??
go check pim's posts pls

and he said "there's no solution for these 2 since there's 2 kinds of people"
just do a vote
GG surf or classic one.
and we gonna see..

Those players might be good players, admins, loyal ambrosians, but 32/32 is still better than that.
And whoever is saying it was 10-15 all time, well i'm sorry but i think you're just looking at a period of 1 hour per day.

return our old surf server and boost it as now then talk..
and 7-20 players with admins is better than 32...
skilled players is better than 32 bots..

[SharkX69]

In your eyes Chris and some others im ruining the server and some others say its working great and its active.
Everyone have different opinions.

Like i said server wont change back to classic at the moment as its too early to judge plus the server seems to going really well.
Other than that theres nothin to discuss except improving the current server.

Topic is locked and any other similar topic will be dropped immediatelly by any moderator and dont start saying we do not let you express your opinions with that decision cause you express your opinions several times and i explained you how things are for now.


Locked.

[I-EKILER]

im dislexic so i cant read too much, but classic>gg but pims comments the only reasons y its full, watch leave it for a week and it will be empty again. no one wants to be admin on it cause its shit and when u play its basically gg mod on a surf map.

[Pim]

Server wont change back at least for now and read Ray's post as it correct aswell.
Classic surf was abandon by its admins aswell past months was totally empty almost 24/7

Sorry but that's just a straight out lie

server had a constant playerbase, wasn't empty, wasn't full. However it hadn't been boosted in a long time like surf gg has now.
this comment was made by one of our highstaff members, and i quote:

Surf had a stable player base and it was never boosted before it was changed to whatever it is now during the summer. By the looks of it the change wasn't liked.

Also a good estimation on whether you have regulars are admin applications, i don't see those now do i...

[Ezzα]

Topic Unlocked

I think its important to keep this open so make sure that we get to listen to what the members of the community would like to see regardless of whether we plan to have it in the new changes. After all it seems to be silly to fully close a door of ideas that help to achieve what we want and what the members of the community want. Think of this as a brain storming task!

[Noex']

And how about noone boosts it for 2 weeks and let's see what happens .

[Andrew`]

And how about noone boosts it for 2 weeks and let's see what happens .

That won't go well

[NexT]

And how about noone boosts it for 2 weeks and let's see what happens .

I agree, Lets see what happens and after that the final decision will be taken 

[Rubix]

It's not fair to say "2 weeks and we'll see" 
The reason for this is that the boosts effects would still be present, and will not fully represent the server running from itself. It may produce less traffic, but still more than normal. It will require a specific time period of around 2 months to give completly unbiased results and eliminate any factors affecting the server. Only then will it be possible to compare the two.
Regardless, the current server has removed Ambrosians from it and filled it with bots, and until this is the complete opposite, the server will still be classed as a fail in my eyes

[SharkX69]

It is not right to say one or 2 weeks without boost and then we will see i agree on that cause server is already unboosted 10 days now and still goes full but yes that dosnt still mean success.
Needs more time to tell.
All we can say for now its yes the server got traffic after the boosts and few regulars which are not registered in forum yet hopefully they will.
Its just too early to say anything at all.

[Timmer|Lv]

why assign a HA on a praticular server if he can't manage the server?