[SURF][info]Surf DM

[terraboN]

Hello Ambrosians,

The issue i am going to be discussing right now has been annoying many surfers and affected the gaming atmosphere in game.

The issue = Surf DM

Telling you straight, no-one likes it. It just allows surfers with no skill to sit in a corner, hold a shotgun and shoot away ranking up when they aren't even using any skill to surf etc. It annoys the veterans and the newbies. The DM system atm is bad, before DM was pretty good, now after Shark has added his ideas into it, no offense, but it isn't developing the skill of players and ruins the experience Ambrosia tries to offer.

When admins notice that it is DM nextmap, most leave because they don't like it.

So i have a little request, add camp meter. In ss2 (surf ski 2) the amount of campers is ridiculous and it is more frustrating being killed by them, since you know all they are doing is sitting in a corner while you are actually surfing and trying to use your skill.

So yeah, small request, big difference.

Camp meter is needed, Shark.

[PaNiCღ]

Support for this idea and Terrabon have right all the players leave when the map is Dm its boring... Put camp time,thnx.

Regards,
PaNiC

[==>Don$N(+)P3R==> NinjaWaft#]

Don't U notice when we put ss_dm Server becomes semi full? ur wrong about players are leaving Thats 1st
Second no need for camp meter since Dm is a ranking Map and if we kill u ull respawn in 1 sec
3rd Player Like it ! So am against removing it or adding camp meter
Regards!
Sniper 

[Rubix]

Agreed 100%
Camp meter is needed in order to have a fair and enjoyable environment for the newbies and the more experienced players.
This is such a simple system that I think must be implemented in order to make as I said a more fair and enjoyable environment.

[Rubix]

Don't U notice when we put ss_dm Server becomes semi full? ur wrong about players are leaving Thats 1st
Second no need for camp meter since Dm is a ranking Map and if we kill u ull respawn in 1 sec
3rd Player Like it ! So am against removing it or adding camp meter
Regards!
Sniper 

You're actually pretty wrong.
The server was able to become full some might say even quicker than it did now as they did not get stuck in the jail and have newbies above them camping with their little aks and m4a1s shooting them.
It doesnt give them a chance and so therefore they leave.
This means that we are not gaining the amount of players we could do with implementations to make it a more balanced server.

[terraboN]

Don't U notice when we put ss_dm Server becomes semi full? ur wrong about players are leaving Thats 1st
Second no need for camp meter since Dm is a ranking Map and if we kill u ull respawn in 1 sec
3rd Player Like it ! So am against removing it or adding camp meter
Regards!
Sniper 

DM is full of rankers. You want that or skilled players?

[==>Don$N(+)P3R==> NinjaWaft#]

Don't U notice when we put ss_dm Server becomes semi full? ur wrong about players are leaving Thats 1st
Second no need for camp meter since Dm is a ranking Map and if we kill u ull respawn in 1 sec
3rd Player Like it ! So am against removing it or adding camp meter
Regards!
Sniper 

DM is full of rankers. You want that or skilled players?

I Can Play With Skilled Players In Normal Maps But Dm is Added To Rank So Its A ranking Map..

[DonTodo #]

Don't U notice when we put ss_dm Server becomes semi full? ur wrong about players are leaving Thats 1st
Second no need for camp meter since Dm is a ranking Map and if we kill u ull respawn in 1 sec
3rd Player Like it ! So am against removing it or adding camp meter
Regards!
Sniper 

DM is full of rankers. You want that or skilled players?

I Can Play With Skilled Players In Normal Maps But Dm is Added To Rank So Its A ranking Map..

I Can Type With All Capitals Aswell When I Start A New Word Coz It Doesnt Make It Confusing To Read At All. Therefor Im Gonna Type The Whole Time Like This Coz Sniper Is Pro And I Wanna Be Like Sniper For The Rest Of My Life.

And Terra I Get U Mate Its Needed To Keep It Fair. Just Chop Chop Add The Camp Meter Already.

[terraboN]

Don't U notice when we put ss_dm Server becomes semi full? ur wrong about players are leaving Thats 1st
Second no need for camp meter since Dm is a ranking Map and if we kill u ull respawn in 1 sec
3rd Player Like it ! So am against removing it or adding camp meter
Regards!
Sniper 

DM is full of rankers. You want that or skilled players?

I Can Play With Skilled Players In Normal Maps But Dm is Added To Rank So Its A ranking Map..

I don't even think you understand my point. You would rather play with 20 campers or 20 surfers? Ofc DM is for rank but it needs to be more balanced for everyone. It will be better for everyone, which is the point of this topic.

[==>Don$N(+)P3R==> NinjaWaft#]

Don't U notice when we put ss_dm Server becomes semi full? ur wrong about players are leaving Thats 1st
Second no need for camp meter since Dm is a ranking Map and if we kill u ull respawn in 1 sec
3rd Player Like it ! So am against removing it or adding camp meter
Regards!
Sniper 

DM is full of rankers. You want that or skilled players?

I Can Play With Skilled Players In Normal Maps But Dm is Added To Rank So Its A ranking Map..

I don't even think you understand my point. You would rather play with 20 campers or 20 surfers? Ofc DM is for rank but it needs to be more balanced for everyone. It will be better for everyone, which is the point of this topic.

I Understand U Man And I Dont Have Any Problem I Said That Players Like It But There Is No Problem We Can Give It A Try And Add Camp Meter And See If Players Like It Or No..

[DonTodo #]

Don't U notice when we put ss_dm Server becomes semi full? ur wrong about players are leaving Thats 1st
Second no need for camp meter since Dm is a ranking Map and if we kill u ull respawn in 1 sec
3rd Player Like it ! So am against removing it or adding camp meter
Regards!
Sniper 

DM is full of rankers. You want that or skilled players?

I Can Play With Skilled Players In Normal Maps But Dm is Added To Rank So Its A ranking Map..

I don't even think you understand my point. You would rather play with 20 campers or 20 surfers? Ofc DM is for rank but it needs to be more balanced for everyone. It will be better for everyone, which is the point of this topic.

#IUnderstandUManAndIDontHaveAnyProblemISaidThatPlayersLikeItButThereIsNoProblemWeCanGiveItATryAndAddCampMeterAndSeeIfPlayersLikeItOrNo..

Maybe u should remove every space and add a # LIKE THIS!

[==>Don$N(+)P3R==> NinjaWaft#]

Don't U notice when we put ss_dm Server becomes semi full? ur wrong about players are leaving Thats 1st
Second no need for camp meter since Dm is a ranking Map and if we kill u ull respawn in 1 sec
3rd Player Like it ! So am against removing it or adding camp meter
Regards!
Sniper 

DM is full of rankers. You want that or skilled players?

I Can Play With Skilled Players In Normal Maps But Dm is Added To Rank So Its A ranking Map..

I don't even think you understand my point. You would rather play with 20 campers or 20 surfers? Ofc DM is for rank but it needs to be more balanced for everyone. It will be better for everyone, which is the point of this topic.

#IUnderstandUManAndIDontHaveAnyProblemISaidThatPlayersLikeItButThereIsNoProblemWeCanGiveItATryAndAddCampMeterAndSeeIfPlayersLikeItOrNo..

Maybe u should remove every space and add a # LIKE THIS!

WTF Ur Bothered From My Writing Or Wat? 

[Rubix]

Don't U notice when we put ss_dm Server becomes semi full? ur wrong about players are leaving Thats 1st
Second no need for camp meter since Dm is a ranking Map and if we kill u ull respawn in 1 sec
3rd Player Like it ! So am against removing it or adding camp meter
Regards!
Sniper 

DM is full of rankers. You want that or skilled players?

I Can Play With Skilled Players In Normal Maps But Dm is Added To Rank So Its A ranking Map..

I don't even think you understand my point. You would rather play with 20 campers or 20 surfers? Ofc DM is for rank but it needs to be more balanced for everyone. It will be better for everyone, which is the point of this topic.

#IUnderstandUManAndIDontHaveAnyProblemISaidThatPlayersLikeItButThereIsNoProblemWeCanGiveItATryAndAddCampMeterAndSeeIfPlayersLikeItOrNo..

Maybe u should remove every space and add a # LIKE THIS!

You bully xD
Cmon lads on topic

[P o p a y]

When admins notice that it is DM nextmap, most leave because they don't like it.

COUGH*: Sorry mate, BUT I am DYING to play on surf_ski_2_dm. Simply I really like this map and with allowing to camp it makes it even more perfect.

I was going to write 100% opposite topic of you, but didn't have time for it.

In the past the Great SURF SERVER of AMBROSIA was FULL by only playing: surf_ski_2_dm + Camping allowed + awp. It was FULL. Everyone liked it, and once I left the server, a lot of new maps were added and server simply started to fail. In that time even without Boosting server was full. Campers cannot camp at all although camping is allowed ( if you are good player, once they kill you, you will know where they are, so you will be prepared ).

Sorry but I strongly disagree with everything what you wrote Terra. <3

Regards,
Popay

ps Everyone has their own opinion.

[Koray]

the reason i quited surf is this map :C

[terraboN]

When admins notice that it is DM nextmap, most leave because they don't like it.

COUGH*: Sorry mate, BUT I am DYING to play on surf_ski_2_dm. Simply I really like this map and with allowing to camp it makes it even more perfect.

I was going to write 100% opposite topic of you, but didn't have time for it.

In the past the Great SURF SERVER of AMBROSIA was FULL by only playing: surf_ski_2_dm + Camping allowed + awp. It was FULL. Everyone liked it, and once I left the server, a lot of new maps were added and server simply started to fail. In that time even without Boosting server was full. Campers cannot camp at all although camping is allowed ( if you are good player, once they kill you, you will know where they are, so you will be prepared ).

Sorry but I strongly disagree with everything what you wrote Terra. <3

Regards,
Popay

ps Everyone has their own opinion.

See this is the issue of Ambrosia. Sticking to the past. New players come with new tastes and from what i have seen, not many like it. If you are happy with surf being full of campers, fine, but i ain't. You might enjoy dm, but the majority of admins dislike it. It needs to be balanced to be perfect.

And this :

Campers cannot camp at all although camping is allowed ( if you are good player, once they kill you, you will know where they are, so you will be prepared ).

Using your statement, there are no good players on surf since they all camp.

Your opinion is yours, i respect it, but i along with others really think it needs to be balanced for fair gameplay.



EDIT :

You guys are happy with DM?..

[P o p a y]

I was just sharing my opinion and what we had in the past. I didn't say "Let's bring the past".

However you are right, this DM version is liked only by the old players like myself who most of them have left the community, however I don't have a problem dealing with other maps or so, but I wanted to say that I am one of the few who actually like this mod along with camping. 

[terraboN]

I was just sharing my opinion and what we had in the past. I didn't say "Let's bring the past".

However you are right, this DM version is liked only by the old players like myself who most of them have left the community, however I don't have a problem dealing with other maps or so, but I wanted to say that I am one of the few who actually like this mod along with camping. 

DM is fine, just the campers ruin the experience. I don't mind anyones input, it is great to see responses on this discussion, but i just believe adding a camp meter will do better for most of the players.

[Rubix]

When admins notice that it is DM nextmap, most leave because they don't like it.

COUGH*: Sorry mate, BUT I am DYING to play on surf_ski_2_dm. Simply I really like this map and with allowing to camp it makes it even more perfect.

I was going to write 100% opposite topic of you, but didn't have time for it.

In the past the Great SURF SERVER of AMBROSIA was FULL by only playing: surf_ski_2_dm + Camping allowed + awp. It was FULL. Everyone liked it, and once I left the server, a lot of new maps were added and server simply started to fail. In that time even without Boosting server was full. Campers cannot camp at all although camping is allowed ( if you are good player, once they kill you, you will know where they are, so you will be prepared ).

Sorry but I strongly disagree with everything what you wrote Terra. <3

Regards,
Popay

ps Everyone has their own opinion.

One thing i'd like to state is that the previous server, the one with camp zones and no jail was doing better statistically than this version.
It catered for more players instead of the minority, and allowed a good flow of players in.
I think the old DM from a couple of months ago must be brought back in order to make the server more enjoyable.

[P o p a y]

Rubix my man ..

However as the majority agrees, it's not a problem for me to agree as well. We are one big family, no individuals!

Btw terra: How to abuse it? - Camp 14 seconds, get the hell out from that spot, repeat action. Ole !