Just 1 thing, why teamkilling as T aint allowed ? That's the best part of jail_snow_v2 :P
Also, cheating at LR leads to kick/quit/ban ?
All I can say is that you did not make any major changes, general gameplay is the same.
My quick major suggestions:
*Vent always restricted for T and CT. It's automatically rebelling. CT is allowed to enter vent only to kill T.
*T is allowed to kill CT if the CT comes close to the T's knifing range. That is taunting.
*Remove that idiotic rule where CT are allowed to camp gun room. It makes the round so boring and long.
*Gun checking is not allowed.
Those are the changes I suggest.
All I can say is that you did not make any major changes, general gameplay is the same.
My quick major suggestions:
*Vent always restricted for T and CT. It's automatically rebelling. CT is allowed to enter vent only to kill T.
*T is allowed to kill CT if the CT comes close to the T's knifing range. That is taunting.
*Remove that idiotic rule where CT are allowed to camp gun room. It makes the round so boring and long.
*Gun checking is not allowed.
Those are the changes I suggest.
We should make a section where we reconsider the number of sds
That's a nice font/style for the sub-titles ur using. Anyway, about the rules. First of all, the vent rule must be more clarified as it will cause confusion. For instance, if a T went in vent and he left it after 30 secs given by the officer, does that mean officers are allowed to entre the vent anytime they want without giving any further 30 secs? Also, there is a very impoertant aspect of the vent in which must be added. This is a part where it says that if a T camps in unreachable vent by the CT and the time is below 0:00, an admin has the right to slay them. Why? Simply because they are delaying the game (take jb_moviekick as eg).I like this rule and it should be added!
Believe me those rules I stated were being ised on another server and back then it used to e full all the time. I guess it depends on the maturaity of the players, in here most players on the server are just simple kids. You can do nothing about that.
Rawr, you should add for terrorists that if a CT goes inside the cage and prisoners are also in there, regardless of what command is made for them, if they see a CT in the cage, they are allowed to kill him without any consequences, but they cannot leave the cage if the CT leaves it.
Prisoners shouldn't be killed for trying to get a CT who goes inside the cage and goes back out right away.
Also guys, taunting rule as Rawr explained shouldn't be added as I said, it is mostly made as an excuse to rebel when ever prisoners see fit. Also in some occasions CT must pass the prisoners in close range for them, with taunting rule it won't be possible at all.
Vent rule, the trickiest rule whatsoever in the whole JB. If a vent time is given - 30 seconds, then OFficers can check the vent that one time no matter if a new prisoner has gone inside the vent, he can still be killed.
Every time an officer wants to check the vent, they must give the warning first. This shouldn't be done of course 100 times per round, but only when CT suspects a prisoner to be in the vent. Rawr if you could modify this in a rule, would be appreciated.
By the taunting rule, meant the rule in which u call now the cage rule. I have read ur post very carefully, and I suggested edition to the sd rule if u read mine carefully :D
Why don't you have an admin meeting which also includes older players (ex admins and old members)? Maybe they could help if they wanted to... They could give their views and suggest things
I like this rules rawr. But i want just few small changes to be done but i will talk with Ray about them and then invite Rawr to a steam chat as it is better to discuss it on steam then make 100 posts.^^ when you change small things in rules can u pls add them as normal post so we dont need to read all 30 rules again to check the small changes but if there is no admin and an officer was in knife range and the prisoners slashed him he will kill them without any warning shots
Ty m8.
Regards,
Monster
Would be good 8)Why don't you have an admin meeting which also includes older players (ex admins and old members)? Maybe they could help if they wanted to... They could give their views and suggest things
+1. Good point. Call a Meeting with Valuable members only who can really help not to chit chat. :)
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1. There should always be a balance of 1:3 or 1:4 CT:T
Red Wolf: So if theres no balance and admin on. Admin should be reported?
2. 30.[/color] If officer goes inside a cage during cageday, terrorists are allowed to kill him without consequences, prisoners however can't leave the cage under any circumstances.
Red Wolf: If theres a command leave backwall u die, the officers outside the cage can kill the T who left backwall?
Why don't you have an admin meeting which also includes older players (ex admins and old members)? Maybe they could help if they wanted to... They could give their views and suggest things
+1. Good point. Call a Meeting with Valuable members only who can really help not to chit chat. :)
that would be great i agree.Why don't you have an admin meeting which also includes older players (ex admins and old members)? Maybe they could help if they wanted to... They could give their views and suggest things
+1. Good point. Call a Meeting with Valuable members only who can really help not to chit chat. :)
^ This. I agree with this highly.
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1. There should always be a balance of 1:3 or 1:4 CT:T
Red Wolf: So if theres no balance and admin on. Admin should be reported?
2. 30.[/color] If officer goes inside a cage during cageday, terrorists are allowed to kill him without consequences, prisoners however can't leave the cage under any circumstances.
Red Wolf: If theres a command leave backwall u die, the officers outside the cage can kill the T who left backwall?
1st: hmm, no.
2nd: also no.
What i wanted to do is make the edits and then post it here so you can see them and say if you like them or not.
I agree with all. Specially the last 3.
CTs are not allowed to mess the guns in the gunroom. Because like on gray town then just throw the guns on the other side of the gunroom and whenthe vent guy jumps there arent any guns that he can pick so they just kill him which is unfair.
Cts are having fun with this glow and what you just see in the cat is You have been glowed in red then on the next line You have been glowed in blue. So this is annoying also 1 time a CT wanted to kill e but i was hiding in the cage behind my team mates and he couldnt find me so he just gave me a FD which glws me and them killed me. This is unfair and destroys the fun. As we were all having fun that the CT couldnt see my name and kill me. All were typing hahahha. While i was joking with the ct saying to i am not in the cage i am in the gunroom and will kill you soon.
1. If a Prisoner inflicts damage to an Officer he can be killed immediately. (this is needed because if the T takes dmg to the CT with nade he can get killed)
2. Officers must state orders before they open cells. If they state orders after opening cells, it is anautomatic unrestricted free day.
3. If the cells aren't opened by 7:00 because of the prisoner blocking the cell doors, it's not a freeday.
4. Officers can not camp in the gunroom, unless it is a Free day or Hide and Seek day.
5. Officers can kill prisoners in the gunroom, or in a restricted area without a warning even if the prisoner has a Free day or is playing Last Request.
6. Guns cannot be hidden in the gun room. You have this rule and that which i posted is the official but i think we better change it to something like:
CTs are not allowed to mess the guns in the gunroom. Because like on gray town then just throw the guns on the other side of the gunroom and whenthe vent guy jumps there arent any guns that he can pick so they just kill him which is unfair.
7. CTs are allowed to give only empty guns to the Ts.
8. Officers can Gun Check a prisoner if he thinks that the prisoner has a gun.
If the officers sees that the prisoner has a gun, officers has to warn the prisoner to drop it.
If the gun is not dropped in 5 seconds, an officer has the rights to kill him.
9. On Free days if an officer is sure that a prisoner has a gun, the prisoner can be killed with no warnings.
10. Use of HLDJ is strictly prohibited unless a game requiring music is being played, or it is a free day.
If it is a free day and somebody complains about the music, the officer MUST turn it off or risk being gagged and transferred back to terrorists.
11. Prisoners cannot give away positions of their team-mates. It is considered ghosting and could result in a kick/ban.
12. If an officer started commanding, other officers must not interfere in his commanding (talking in mic) or this will result in slay or transferring back to prisoner team.
13. The officer can be an officer for one map only, unless there are no other options available or the player has been an officer for less than 15min.
14. I think you have to allow the boosting from the cage as well because it is part of the fun game.
15. Officers are allowed to use their glow rights to a prisoner only when he has a Free day or they are playing a game where glow is required.
Cts are having fun with this glow and what you just see in the cat is You have been glowed in red then on the next line You have been glowed in blue. So this is annoying also 1 time a CT wanted to kill e but i was hiding in the cage behind my team mates and he couldnt find me so he just gave me a FD which glws me and them killed me. This is unfair and destroys the fun. As we were all having fun that the CT couldnt see my name and kill me. All were typing hahahha. While i was joking with the ct saying to i am not in the cage i am in the gunroom and will kill you soon.
- Also Rawr can you change 3 other things:
On rule 5 change it from "admin" to "admin/VIP"
On rule 7 change "door cell" with "cell door"
On rule 11 from "Free-killing" change it to "Team-killing"
Maybe add this:
1. Officers cannot kill prisoners for opening the cells because it is an unrestricted freeday as the cells were opened by terrorist. This rule also applies even if an officer stated that Cells cannot be opened.
2. Officers are not allowed to kill their team mates or this will result in slay/transfering back to prisoner team. I actually think that this should be added because CTs should try to end the day not to kill each other. They have to cover not search for cars and go to kill the commander as this can easyly ruin the day.
3. When an officer makes a race he does not need to state that cheating is not allowed
Example: In a pool race you must use the pool and must not go around it
In the case of high spray cheating is allowed unless the officer states that you cannot access some parts of the map to do the high spray
Example: Officer says do a high spray on a wall and there is a ladder that makes you go higher and therefore help you on the high spray,
if the officers says do not use the ladder you cannot use it
2. I dislike the concept of teamkilling in general, which I added to prisoners. I don't see officers teamkilling each other, though if it's necessary to add..
3. I actually liked the idea of cheating and the fact, officer needs to state cheating is not allowed. I mean, officer has to be accurate in every command throughout the entire jailbreak, so why should be one stupid game an exception.
15. Officers are allowed to kill prisoners if they directly aim at that with gun or attack them without warning (doesn't mean you always have to kill them)
21. If a prisoner wields a gun inside the vent, officer is allowed to kill him without warning.
Rawplus ,i think that Monster wrote all these rules because if a new new new player would like to read the rules of Ambrosia Jb server he wouldnt be able to know what to do in all the situations so you cant say 5-6 rules are obvius.In my opinion why not to add some more rules in yours like 10-20.I remember when I starded play Jb I had to learn 50 Jb rules in Popay's topic..So you could add some of Monster's rules in yours
You have to see the bigger picture this time. Too many rules just degrade the gameplay. Of course fairness in game is what we seek for, but we shouldn't exceed that.
- No Map Exploits if there is a gltich with the map please do not do the glitch.
- No Map Exploits if there is a gltich with the map please do not do the glitch.
I don't see an issue with boosting
You have to see the bigger picture this time. Too many rules just degrade the gameplay. Of course fairness in game is what we seek for, but we shouldn't exceed that.
You sir should receive a reward for what you said. Don't overthink guys, plain and simple is the way to go.
My advice look at how prisons are run in real life and try to get the rules from there, ofc not all of them.
Because there are some special cases when someone is freekilled but actually he isnt then rules just show that for example he had a gun on the FD and the CT killed him. Ye he killed him because the rule is saying that the CT is allowed to do that not because it is just obvious.
1. All rules must be obeyed or you will be slayed/kicked/banned.
3. Free killing is killing a prisoner for no reason.
Doing this repeatedly can get you kicked or banned.
- CTs cannot attack or kill prisoners for no reason,
even if the prisoner has and throws flash or grenade if it doesn't inflict any damage to officers.
- Officers must always give warning shots to prisoners before killing, unless the prisoner attacks and inflicts damage,
a prisoner aims a weapon at an officer, or a prisoner is rebelling. This rule does not also apply while playing games or it is Punishment day.
- If a Prisoner inflicts damage to an Officer he can be killed immediately.
If the prisoner damages with a grenade he can be killed too, this is also a weapon and can inflict damage!
- Officers that constantly free kill will be slayed/transferred/kicked/banned.
- Officers cannot kill prisoners for opening the cells because it is an unrestricted freeday as the cells were opened by terrorist.
This rule also applies even if an officer stated that Cells cannot be opened.
6. - If a Prisoner is shooting/aiming with a gun to an Officer from a vent,
the Officer can kill prisoner without a warning.
7. Officers can not give prisoners any weapons unless they are doing a game where a weapon is required.
8. Officers can always tell prisoners to drop their gun if they think they have one,
if the weapon is not dropped officers must do a gun check before killing the terrorist.
- Officers can Gun Check a prisoner if he thinks that the prisoner has a gun.
If the officers sees that the prisoner has a gun, officers has to warn the prisoner to drop it.
If the gun is not dropped in 5 seconds, an officer has the rights to kill him.
However if the prisoner aims at any officer with it, the officer can kill the prisoner without warnings.
10. Officers can go inside the cage however they cannot shoot while being inside of it. Also when inside the cage the Terrorists can kill the Officer/s that are inside without any consequence. Even if the officers say: "If you leave the back of the cage or if you move you die." The prisoners can disobey the command to kill the CT/s which are inside the cage and other officers can't do anything. If the officer/s which was inside the cage leaves it then prisoners are not allowed to follow him and try to kill him or they risk of being killed for rebeling. If an officer is doing that often he can be slayed/transfered back.
11. All officers must have a good/understandable microphone and they must use it during game play.RED: I don't get it, when this was made as a rule and why? I rather have kids who use voice changer and sound bit older than listen to small womanly voice which gives me headaches, I am sure everyone would agree with me on this.
Voice changer is not allowed and if you use one you will be slayed/transfered/kicked/banned.
- Officers need to remember that prisoner microphones are muted.
If an officer asks a prisoner a question, they need to give them time to type an answer.
12. Use of HLDJ is strictly prohibited unless a game requiring music is being played, or it is a free day.
If it is a free day and somebody complains about the music, the officer MUST turn it off or risk being gagged and transferred back to terrorists.
13. Prisoners cannot give away positions of their team-mates. It is considered ghosting and could result in a kick/ban.
15. If an officer started commanding,
other officers must not interfere in his commanding (talking in mic) or this will result in slay or transferring back to prisoner team.
- Officers or prisoners should not use rude words, during game play, it might result in slay/kick.
18. Officers are not allowed to kill their team mates or this will result in slay/transfering back to prisoner team.
19. When an officer makes a race he does not need to state that cheating is not allowed
Example: In a pool race you must use the pool and must not go around it
In the case of high spray cheating is allowed unless the officer states that you cannot access some parts of the map to do the high spray
Example: Officer says do a high spray on a wall and there is a ladder that makes you go higher and therefore help you on the high spray,
if the officers says do not use the ladder you cannot use it
20. If the CT that is commanding says, when I say run to the cage then you go to the cage.
Then don't go to the cage until he says run to the cage. Because at the start he said when I say run.
21. If an officer says "head to head" Terrorists can interpret it as "shoulder to shoulder" and should not be killed
23. CT can do any game they want as long as it completes this requirements:
- It is a fun and enjoyable game for the majority of the players
- It gives to all T an equal opportunity to survive
- The game can't be confusing
- It is properly explained to the T
If the CT is not completing all of these steps then he can be transfered back T
25. Any rule not listed here is not a jailbreak rule.
13. Prisoners cannot give away positions of their team-mates. It is considered ghosting and could result in a kick/ban.
25. Any rule not listed here is not a jailbreak rule.
But JB is based on the rules so you cant just say it is obvious. Why it should it be obvious but not writen down. I dont see big differences in reading few lines more. I had read the old rules so many times no matter if they were so long. And when we post the new rules which you made i am sure all the current players will read them and some new players as well. Because there are some special cases when someone is freekilled but actually he isnt then rules just show that for example he had a gun on the FD and the CT killed him.
Rules are readed 1 time. You dont have to read them every time so that you can say omg they are long. You just come waste 5 min and read them. Then you leave the topic and never come back to it. So rules should be not too long and not too short. This arent too short but they are short. If we do this changes then they will become normal. And normal is the best because the current one are long while the old one were too long. So everything should be well explained.
Yes, keep voice changer rule because some of the admins including me know the voices of the banevaders. Like emx for example.
Voice changer will hide him.
New IP ? Steam_ID_LAN ? + voice changer impo to catch.
Also it's annoying. So keep it
Yes, keep voice changer rule because some of the admins including me know the voices of the banevaders. Like emx for example.
Voice changer will hide him.
New IP ? Steam_ID_LAN ? + voice changer impo to catch.
Also it's annoying. So keep it
It goes under the rule, clear microphone. I believe the rule about microphone should be updated. Clear, people can understand and good voice. Annoying ones cannot be CT. This is how you can have 2 bunnies with 1 shot. I said it before, rather they use the voice changer than we have to hear annoying small voice. Some voices are better than others, gotta admit that.
Also how will you know for sure that they are using voice changer? Me for example had a microphone and most people said it sounded like radio, again I am sure some thought im using voice changer.
Kids Voice annoying ? Are you kidding me?
80% of the VALUABLE persons of Ambrosia are Children who fulfill this community. You are not even active in jailbreak mate, so you don't know what's going on. It's not their fault they are 12 years old and have a gentle voice, don't forger you were 12 in the past.
Nothing negative against you but your statement will irritate a lot of players.
Regards,
Popay
BumpedGuess thats me out then :(
I'm interested in editing rules that will fit with the server.
I decided to make a meeting to discuss these changes.
It will be on TS3, next week, Friday 15/11/2013, From 19:00 GMT+0 Until 21:00 GMT+0
Everyone is invited.
If you spam on TS3 or if you try to corrupt the meeting, you will be kicked from the meeting.
Aha :D we'll see ^^BumpedGuess thats me out then :(
I'm interested in editing rules that will fit with the server.
I decided to make a meeting to discuss these changes.
It will be on TS3, next week, Friday 15/11/2013, From 19:00 GMT+0 Until 21:00 GMT+0
Everyone is invited.
If you spam on TS3 or if you try to corrupt the meeting, you will be kicked from the meeting.
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1 thing , there shouldn't be something called vent time , think about it in real life if the prisoners goes anywhere but the command they will be punished :P