Author Topic: [UNBANNED]Banned from Classic (Read 257 times)

el_dazza · « **on:** September 18, 2012, 03:58:49 pm »

Hello all,

About 15 mins ago I was banned from the classic server by r4h. Here's what happened:

He was playing under the name "o", so obviously had no idea who he was. There were quite a lot of cheaters around at the time which Burzum was sorting out and he ran out prefiring exactly where I was, so I said to Burzum that he's probably at it too. Once he revealed who he was, he started giving me a load of grief saying how good he is and i'm that a "noobie" (yeah, that's cool.), and wouldn't give up the abuse. I said in admin chat "fs if I knew it was you, then I wouldn't have said anything", he replied "well stfu until you know who cheats", I replied "seemed dodgy and I had no idea who you were". Even Burzum said to me there's no need to apologise he's just lucky. Still, he carried giving me hell so I (wrongly, yes) said "shut your mouth you gobby c***" and was promptly banned.

Now, I accept that I've used language not appropriate, but when an admin is baiting you like this and they ban you for giving it back, where's the fairness in that? He's given it but can't take it back then used his powers to ban me. As a long time player and former admin I think this is a little harsh, and even when I connected (not sure how) he banned me immediately without giving me the chance to resolve the issue.

I should add that I tried to connect again to try and resolve this issue, not actually expecting to be able to connect to the server.

Big Bob · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2012, 03:58:49 pm »

Thank you for posting an Unban Request. Shortly the Emperors shall review your unban request. Please in the meantime have patience and DO NOT ban evade (which means; you cannot play in any of our servers while banned), otherwise your request will be automatically DENIED. In the meantime read clearly the Unban Request Rules and check the Banlist to see the information on your ban. If the admin doesn't provide a demo or comment within 48h after you posted this unban request, then you'll go free and you'll be unbanned.

Regards,
The Ambrosian Emperors.

r4h · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2012, 04:13:25 pm »

ROFL please check server logs on classic, majority of what he has said is a total lie.

I killed him and he in admin chat said "o is aim as well" to which i replied in admin say "just coz you got killed doesnt mean that person aims" i changed my name to r4h and he said "o if id of known it was you i wouldnt of said anything" i replyed to him well you shouldnt accuse any1 of aimbot unless you know for sure they are, he just raged coz he died and decided that his killer must be aimbot.

Anyway i told him to stop being a noob and accusing people unless hes sure, to which he replied "stfu u gobby *****" so i banned him for 500mins for swearing, i then server hopped to dmatch to ban sum1 came bk to classic and he was back in, so i rebanned for 1000min for ban evading, he then rejoined saying that he wasnt banned and could join so i amx_permbanned him.

Thats what happened check logs, unban him tomoz a days ban for calling an admin a "gobby *****" should be long enough..

Oh and as you say in your post, as a former admin you should no better, as a "long time player" on the servers, you should know the rules for swearing and btw i banned u for 500mins which is roughly 8hours isent really that long considering ur a former admin and should there4 set an example.

el_dazza · « **Reply #3 on:** September 18, 2012, 04:17:52 pm »

Log from my console:

(PLAYER) El_dazza : fs o is at it too
o : just coz u die el dazza doesnt mean sum1 cheats
(PLAYER) El_dazza : prefiring little git you are
r4h : course i am
r4h : idiot
r4h : mad coz u die
r4h : so u accuse lol
r4h : noobie
(PLAYER) El_dazza : fs if i knew it was u i wouldnt have said anything
d`Obinie c|:{ (RADIO): Need backup.
(PLAYER) El_dazza : i know ur fine
r4h : so u shudnt accuse then shud u
r4h : until u know
r4h : ...
r4h : noobie
Burzum<3OddyLane=) : dazza no need to ask sorry, he is lucky today, only that
El_dazza : i can say what i frigging want
Kicked by Console: "abuse. (banned for 5000 min.)

r4h · « **Reply #4 on:** September 18, 2012, 04:21:21 pm »

rofl nicely edited so it doesnt show you swearing... wp

el_dazza · « **Reply #5 on:** September 18, 2012, 04:24:11 pm »

Quote from: r4h on September 18, 2012, 04:21:21 pm

rofl nicely edited so it doesnt show you swearing... wp

See what I mean, doesn't know when to shut his damn mouth, give it a rest.

r4h · « **Reply #6 on:** September 18, 2012, 04:28:57 pm »

lol so you havent removed the sections where you swear then?? look at your attitude man, im not disrespecting you... telling you to shut ur mouth or calling u a gobby ***** am i? i even told them to remove the ban tomorrow, i even messaged you saying 500 minute ban for swearing. your attitude stinks. and btw im an admin on these servers and have been for 7 years, i dont need to shut my mouth especially not when its regarding one of my bans. show some respect to other players, its not all about you.

I permbanned him so hes banned from all servers til he is unbanned, ill leave it up to higher staff to determine your fate, i wont post again on this topic as i have said my bit, check the log to see truth.

el_dazza · « **Reply #7 on:** September 18, 2012, 04:38:08 pm »

Quote from: r4h on September 18, 2012, 04:28:57 pm

lol so you havent removed the sections where you swear then?? look at your attitude man, im not disrespecting you... telling you to shut ur mouth or calling u a gobby ***** am i? i even told them to remove the ban tomorrow, i even messaged you saying 500 minute ban for swearing. your attitude stinks. and btw im an admin on these servers and have been for 7 years, i dont need to shut my mouth especially not when its regarding one of my bans. show some respect to other players, its not all about you.

I permbanned him so hes banned from all servers til he is unbanned, ill leave it up to higher staff to determine your fate, i wont post again on this topic as i have said my bit, check the log to see truth.

a guy kills you once and you instantly decide he is aim lol makes thats why your no longer admin.

That's a PM he sent me, that's being respectful is it? Calling someone a "noobie" repeatedly is showing respect is it? How dare you demand it when you have not shown it in any instance. As previously stated, if I had known who you were I'd have thought nothing of it, but you could have been anyone using the name "o". I'm not saying it's all about me, this works both ways. You can't demand people bow down to you and you can do as you please with them, it just doesn't work like that - that's basically abusing your power. I have realised what I said was inappropriate, but I don't like people like you who use their position to their advantage.

Oh, btw, there were other people swearing on the server at the time which I also have the logs of. Where's their ban? Oh, they didn't get one. Did they even get a warning? No.

r4h · « **Reply #8 on:** September 18, 2012, 04:47:15 pm »

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How about you stop baiting people and giving abuse yourself? I wasn't banevading you clown, I tried connecting and it allowed me, I've got one steam account and that's it so how the hell else would I connect?

Now who's making accusations fool. I don't have admin any more because I was inactive from May-September, before this time I was one of the most respected admins on that server.

if you wonna talk about abuse read the message u sent me above notice the words underlined. and for ur info i kicked others for swearing and warned them, i banned u for swearing directly at me.

Ezzα · « **Reply #9 on:** September 18, 2012, 04:56:44 pm »

He can edit the message all he likes but it will be saved onto the logs and i am sure they can be posted on here once someone has access. I am at work at the moment so no access here.

el_dazza · « **Reply #10 on:** September 18, 2012, 05:40:45 pm »

3rd attempt at posting this..

I've edited things like fs to make them forum friendly but we know what they mean, but the context has not been altered nor any omissions.

I will offer my apologies to r4h, as this has got silly over not a lot.

r4h · « **Reply #11 on:** September 18, 2012, 06:38:29 pm »

i accept your apology i have no problem with you, i dont appreciate being called a gobby c*nt or a fool or a clown or any of the other things, and i fail to c how i have been silly, im just defending my actions like how you are. anyway im sure you will be unbanned soon.

el_dazza · « **Reply #12 on:** September 18, 2012, 06:50:29 pm »

Quote from: r4h on September 18, 2012, 06:38:29 pm

i accept your apology i have no problem with you, i dont appreciate being called a gobby c*nt or a fool or a clown or any of the other things, and i fail to c how i have been silly, im just defending my actions like how you are. anyway im sure you will be unbanned soon.

I also don't have a problem with you, I've seen you around long enough to know who you are and know you're a good player.

Skizo · « **Reply #13 on:** September 18, 2012, 07:07:38 pm »

Happy Ending !! Me gustaa !!!

Weed Farmerr · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2012, 07:54:16 pm »

I dont care if you are friends now or whatever ,I want to know what real happened so I am requesting someone from High Stuff team to post here please the logs to see and understand who is telling the truth and who is not.

First of all El_dazza, you banevade 2 times while the Admin banned you for swearing (2 times),you should not join again in the server but you could come here in the forum ,make unban request and see why he banned you ect ect.Banevading is unacceptable!

Secondly you should both act mature and not like this.R4h has right in some point that El_dazza shouldnt say that the player that killed him has aimbot or whatever but in the other side I have tell many times that someone is using wallhack because he is using other nick name and I dont know who is he but after I see who is he I was saying "ohhh he is Ezza,Ezza would never cheat".

The story could end when el_dazza saw that the player is r4h and all happy.Dont search for drama.Of course no need to swear/insult/flame other players/admins to explain your opinion,that you are right or for any other reason.

I believe that I do not need to lock the topic and you know how to behave.

P.S
I am waiting the logs please.

r4h · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2012, 08:30:59 pm »

Just to clarify i was using my propa nick but there was a guy in there im currently trying to ban so i d/c and changed name to o, if u check the logs your'l see

Burzum · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2012, 10:37:53 pm »

i was in that moment on server
r4h changed his nick for spec 1 player and he had good score, and dazza told me in admin chat for spec him
i remember this words:

Quote from: r4h on September 18, 2012, 04:13:25 pm

I killed him and he in admin chat said "o is aim as well" to which i replied in admin say "just coz you got killed doesnt mean that person aims" i changed my name to r4h and he said "o if id of known it was you i wouldnt of said anything"

after this i saw "bad" words from both sides... dunno who started or who followed... even i thought in a 1st time they were trolling and joking theirselves..... but when i saw the ban i knew they were serious....so, i just can say to check logs to know for sure all the words and the offenses

spekbinder · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2012, 11:37:55 pm »

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15:28:56: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<621><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "fucks sake o is at it too"
15:29:19: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "o<645><STEAM_0:1:471601><>" tsay "just coz u die el dazza doesnt mean sum1 cheats "
15:29:26: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<621><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "prefiring little **** u are"

15:29:33 <STEAM_0:1:471601><92.234.175.186> r4h : course i am
15:29:34 <STEAM_0:1:471601><92.234.175.186> r4h : idiot
15:29:44 <STEAM_0:1:471601><92.234.175.186> r4h : mad coz u die
15:29:49 <STEAM_0:1:471601><92.234.175.186> r4h : so u accuse lol
15:29:51 <STEAM_ID_LAN><90.194.53.197> Da ~ Ira : all the cheaters u gotta get rid of
15:29:52 <STEAM_0:1:471601><92.234.175.186> r4h : noobie

15:30:19: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<621><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "fs if i knew it was u i wouldnt have said anything"
15:30:22: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<621><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "i know ur fine"
15:30:29 <STEAM_0:1:471601><92.234.175.186> r4h : so u shudnt accuse then shudu
15:30:34 <STEAM_0:1:471601><92.234.175.186> r4h : until u know
15:30:35 <STEAM_0:1:471601><92.234.175.186> r4h : ...
15:30:50: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<621><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "shut it you gobby cuint"

15:30:54: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "Burzum<3OddyLane=)<360><STEAM_0:1:21866374><>" tsay "dazza no need to ask sorry, he is lucky today, only that"

15:30:56: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<621><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat ""

15:30:38 <STEAM_0:0:861004><2.122.86.230> El_dazza : i can say what i frigging want
15:30:42 <STEAM_0:0:861004><2.122.86.230> El_dazza : it just seemed proper dodgy
15:30:43 <STEAM_0:1:471601><92.234.175.186> r4h : ok noobie

15:30:59: [admincmd.amxx] Ban: "r4h<645><STEAM_0:1:471601><>" ban and kick "El_dazza<621><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" (minutes "5000") (reason "abuse.")

15:31:15 <STEAM_0:0:557653032><46.20.216.13> *DEAD*Simple.-Heineken# : y dazza got banned ?
15:31:20 <STEAM_0:1:21866374><77.27.95.214> *SPEC*Burzum[3OddyLane=) : temporal ban
15:31:24 <STEAM_0:1:471601><92.234.175.186> *DEAD*r4h : for abusing an admin

15:37:03: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<689><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "did u unban me burz?"
15:37:08: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "Burzum<3OddyLane=)<360><STEAM_0:1:21866374><>" tsay "not me"
15:37:14: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "Burzum<3OddyLane=)<360><STEAM_0:1:21866374><>" tsay "i can not"
15:37:29: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<689><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "hmm someone did, do u think it was fair for him to ban me? he was giving me abuse but cant take it back :/"

15:38:09: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "Burzum<3OddyLane=)<360><STEAM_0:1:21866374><>" tsay "admins can not unban"
15:38:14: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<689><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "oh yeah"
15:38:15: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<689><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "duhhh"
15:38:17: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "Burzum<3OddyLane=)<360><STEAM_0:1:21866374><>" tsay "not flags for unban"

15:48:34: [admincmd.amxx] Ban: "r4h<732><STEAM_0:1:471601><>" ban and kick "El_dazza<689><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" (minutes "1000") (reason "banevading")

15:50:58: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<754><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "right"
15:51:03: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<754><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "im not banevading, its let me connect."

15:51:23: [abs.amxx] Permban: "r4h<732><STEAM_0:1:471601><>" permbans "El_dazza<754><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" "abuse"
15:51:23: [admincmd.amxx] Kick: "Ambrosia|Classic Server|www.amb<0><><>" kick "El_dazza<754><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" (reason "abuse")
15:51:26: [admincmd.amxx] Cmd: "Ambrosia|Classic Server|www.amb<0><><>" ban "2.122.86.*" (minutes "0") (reason "banevader")

MNR[fp] · « **Reply #18 on:** September 19, 2012, 01:24:12 pm »

15:48:34: [admincmd.amxx] Ban: "r4h<732><STEAM_0:1:471601><>" ban and kick "El_dazza<689><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" (minutes "1000") (reason "banevading")

15:50:58: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<754><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "right"
15:51:03: [adminchat.amxx] Chat: "El_dazza<754><STEAM_0:0:861004><>" chat "im not banevading, its let me connect."

You used to be admin here, right? Seems like a proper banevade to me..

frOgNN · « **Reply #19 on:** September 19, 2012, 03:03:27 pm »

Perhaps he was using steam ,so he couldnt banevade, he may have thought he just got kicked.