[JB]Admin rules

[JF]

Tasha, you're simply too narrow minded or not experienced enough to comment on it, if you haven't used it.It's like saying that I know what drugs to do me or I know what that tastes like, if you haven't never tried or ate it. Just saying that snails are grouse to eat and taste bad, doesn't make them bad. They're actually wonderfully good, so don't comment on something you're not competent in that matter enough.

[tαshαღ]

Is popay narrow minded too? If i was a speedhacker and saw an admin noclipping live spec around me i'd swiftly stop. It's much better to not draw attention to the fact many admins are and type kill in console and spectate rather than wasting time going into spec, reviving, and noclipping, all which would come up in the main chat as admin commands. It would take just as long to find the person clicking through all as it would by doing all those commands, only difference is one draws a lot of attention whereas the other doesn't. There is no real need for it if the job can be done better in a different way. Most admins use live spec for their own enjoyment rather than for a real purpose. Ooooosh thanks for the English language again JF! You know what the words mean better than those who use it! Noob and idiot are offensive to come, noob started out as a term for "newcomer" but gradually became more and more disrespectful as it began to be used in a disrespectful way. I wouldn't personally lose too much sleep over being called a noob or an idiot but i'm sure some people may get offended by it, but everyone takes these words in different ways depending on context

[Ezzα]

Neither should an admin take everything said against them as flaming. This is an open community, where everyone has the right to express their minds. I've seen admins kicking people, just because they've said "Noob" or "idiot" to the admin. The definition of noob comes from the word "newcomer" or you just are not aware of the situation. So if you don't know some certain rules, then it's no offense for someone to call you a noob. For idiot, look it up from the dictionary. Why can we say that you're wise minded, but not saying that you're stupid (equivalent to idiot)? Please, if you don't believe me, google it..JF[/font][/color][/b][/i]

If i recall this is coming from one who thought it was ok to have racist jokes so along as it was in a jokey manner? Open community it is but admins have the judgement to decide if the player is being disrespectful or not.Also i agree with Tasha comment on live spectator, it shouldnt be used at all and i really cannot see any beneficial points coming from this.

['PL']

Is popay narrow minded too? If i was a speedhacker and saw an admin noclipping live spec around me i'd swiftly stop. It's much better to not draw attention to the fact many admins are and type kill in console and spectate rather than wasting time going into spec, reviving, and noclipping, all which would come up in the main chat as admin commands. It would take just as long to find the person clicking through all as it would by doing all those commands, only difference is one draws a lot of attention whereas the other doesn't. There is no real need for it if the job can be done better in a different way. Most admins use live spec for their own enjoyment rather than for a real purpose.

Live spec is also for checking bugs around the maps too, experimenting  and etc...You can't experiment offline where you have a case which is needed 2+ people.In experimenting consist, bugs,problems,exploits,advantages,hidden rooms,guns.That's why i have difficultly checking new maps because 2 opinions are better then one :DDeniz admitted that he was using it for the ball plugin.To make it easier, admins can do that for map reviews and tests.Yesterday i was with one admin in an other community checking the maps which tasha posted and i got more accurate results then now. And they can do it via online on a public server to check them and comment in admin chat, no mic, no white chat and etc.

[tαshαღ]

Deniz is UC so he has the right to use it for testing. Are we admins going to add plug ins ourselves and test them? Nope.. This is a discussion for normal admins having the right to use them, not UC and above. Normal admins don't need to do these things since it's not our job, our job is to help clean the server out not to deal with server add ons and problems.

[JF]

Ezza, I'm not even going to go deep in that topic, which has been discussed long time ago, so don't be childish to start a war over a war that has already been fought, ok? I already know that you get a long with tasha bit too much, especially if you want to look at it from a profession side. And I agree with replica, you can't test the maps with offline mode.And please tasha, if you take everything so serious and personal, go have some anger management lessons, you really do need them. If you can't be tolerant to anything, then ban absolutely everone. Because when a muslim comes online and says "Go Allah!", then not all, but some do get offended, simply because they don't care about religion. Or when someone says a noob to a normal player, why doesn't that guy get banned for being offensive?? Why don't we just forbid that word!? So everytime someone says noob, BURN BABY BURN!!?? Don't be so damn stupid or narrow minded please?? It's too annoying when one person thinks that he/she is dominating over someone, when everyone are equal.

[Sight]

I don't see the point of admins testing out maps, when I add maps to a server I always test them my self , if a admin wants to test he can start a explore day(on new maps only)Just amx_godmode @all.0:00? Amx_rocket @all.Easy and resolved, there is ur maptest day. No noclip for needed

[tαshαღ]

I don't see the point of admins testing out maps, when I add maps to a server I always test them my self , if a admin wants to test he can start a explore day(on new maps only)Just amx_godmode @all.0:00? Amx_rocket @all.Easy and resolved, there is ur maptest day. No noclip for needed

Yep agree. when the last bunch of maps were added I can remember an admin godmoding all and allowed us to test the map for 1 or 2 rounds and it was fun. No need for live spec at all for normal admins since its more used for their own enjoyment of just noclipping around. JF please stop insulting me saying I need anger management, I'm fine thank you.

[Ocelvon]

Why is jf and tasha discussion the words that are considered to be offensive.....?

[Ezzα]

Ezza, I'm not even going to go deep in that topic, which has been discussed long time ago, so don't be childish to start a war over a war that has already been fought, ok? I already know that you get a long with tasha bit too much, especially if you want to look at it from a profession side. And I agree with replica, you can't test the maps with offline mode..

This has nothing to do with old wars, its an open discussion whereby you seem to think its ok to have noob or idiot or any other words so long as its not in a informal manner. The fact that i get along with Tasha has no bearing on my posting whatsoever, i have stated before in the higher discussion board that live spectator shouldnt be used and have simply repeated my thoughts here. If you think that Tasha has influenced my decision then your very very wrong.Similarly i agree with Deniz that theres no real reason for admins to test out maps by using live spectator

[tαshαღ]

I haven't discussed the words because I don't think its a hard concept to follow the fact that words can be interpreted differently in different contexts and situations.  JF is just going on ranting as usual. Add live spec to rules MCAIN!!!

[Ocelvon]

Add live spec to rules MCAIN!!!

Check before commentingI edited it a long time agoPS:mordred?

[tαshαღ]

Wooops sorry I missed those posts when i went to bed. You'll always be Mcain to me. Anyways maybe something like clearing up when amx_revive can be used? Like if someone has a  FD, but glow didn't work (sometimes it bugs if you glow too early i think? keep seeing people getting glowed then their glow not working) are we allowed to revive them ? Or if someone just gets freekilled by mistake near the start of the round? I know it can be used for special days etc etc but I want it clearing up if we can revive the people who get accidently freekilled

[Sight]

amx_revive shouldnt be used at all, if you want to revive a player just do "amx_transfer playername T/CT" 2 times. he will be revived without guns.if i rule out the amx_revive in amx_super the whole alive spectator thing is dead, as you cannot do amx_transfer playername spec cuz it will just be a regular spectator

[.:.TahaBakhit.:.]

Ezza, I'm not even going to go deep in that topic, which has been discussed long time ago, so don't be childish to start a war over a war that has already been fought, ok? I already know that you get a long with tasha bit too much, especially if you want to look at it from a profession side. And I agree with replica, you can't test the maps with offline mode.And please tasha, if you take everything so serious and personal, go have some anger management lessons, you really do need them. If you can't be tolerant to anything, then ban absolutely everone. Because when a muslim comes online and says "Go Allah!", then not all, but some do get offended, simply because they don't care about religion. Or when someone says a noob to a normal player, why doesn't that guy get banned for being offensive?? Why don't we just forbid that word!? So everytime someone says noob, BURN BABY BURN!!?? Don't be so damn stupid or narrow minded please?? It's too annoying when one person thinks that he/she is dominating over someone, when everyone are equal.

Why religions are always getting involved ? especially islam -.-Personally , every time i see anything that have to do with religions e.g Islam Go to hell / Christians shall go to hell / jews r .. etc i warn them if they dont stop i would quit them or ban them even if he is a christian , a muslim , a jew or even a scientologist ... -.-

[Ezzα]

Mordred perhaps you should also put that any admins who do NOT ban ban evaders will be automatically demoted! From my understanding im aware that some admins allow ban evaders to play just because they are "friends" 

[Mr-aNumiDiS]

Haha, Reply in time Ezza :Dand the admins who do these things knows theirselves, so beware

[Sight]

Mordred perhaps you should also put that any admins who do NOT ban ban evaders will be automatically demoted! From my understanding im aware that some admins allow ban evaders to play just because they are "friends"  

i soo agree with this. i have seen countless times where other admins just leave a banevader playing.. en when i joined and quited that guy i was the one getting flamed by them

['PL']

Mordred perhaps you should also put that any admins who do NOT ban ban evaders will be automatically demoted! From my understanding im aware that some admins allow ban evaders to play just because they are "friends"  

i soo agree with this. i have seen countless times where other admins just leave a banevader playing.. en when i joined and quited that guy i was the one getting flamed by them

Like you when you just let pawn to play after removing his cover nick :DWait, i'll search my cs folder for demo

[Sight]

replica, i left him playing because i was told shark and ezza was watching his behaviour in-game -.-... but he didnt behave so i ban and quited him after.no need to take effort for that