Author Topic: Some missunderstanding in the vent rule... (Read 237 times)

Cando · « **on:** August 06, 2012, 08:30:20 pm »

Hi all.

I am complaining at a lot of players in this topic, which they don't get the vent rule and why we made the vent rule.

For example: in jb_rehab_b1 map when you get inside the vent, CT's says vent time 30 seconds. which means you have to get out from the vent, and once we get out CT's kills us... whats the point of that?

What I mean is:

-If I stay inside the vent, the 30 seconds will finish and ill get killed by an Officar.
-If I get out from the vent ull face a CT in the KZ room (in rehab map) and he will kill you.

So we are dead at all?

Can I know whats the point of that? and how can we solve this problem?

Thanks.

Spaff · « **Reply #1 on:** August 06, 2012, 08:35:02 pm »

Don't go in the vent.
Problem Solved + Locked thnx cya

SNap · « **Reply #2 on:** August 06, 2012, 08:50:11 pm »

If you are in vent it means you rebel so why you complain when they kill you

sMiT · « **Reply #3 on:** August 06, 2012, 08:58:00 pm »

To both spaff and snap... what is the point of the vent rule at all then?
The whole point of the vent rule is give the t an opportunity to retreat from a rebel.
If we just get killed anyway then the rule should be removed.

Spaff · « **Reply #4 on:** August 06, 2012, 09:11:04 pm »

Quote from: sMiT on August 06, 2012, 08:58:00 pm

To both spaff and snap... what is the point of the vent rule at all then?
The whole point of the vent rule is give the t an opportunity to retreat from a rebel.
If we just get killed anyway then the rule should be removed.

But how about rebelling rule then?
Ofc he's trying to rebel if he goes inside the vent.
Rules making no sense.

Alberto · « **Reply #5 on:** August 06, 2012, 09:20:55 pm »

If you go inside the vent, you can go to others zones of the map, as for example the gunroom, so 30sec are good to rebel, in addition, the ct can choose between kill you or leave you with life xD so the rule is good

Pringles · « **Reply #6 on:** August 06, 2012, 09:33:06 pm »

sometimes (depends on cts), u can go out only if u dont touch any gun..

Cando · « **Reply #7 on:** August 06, 2012, 10:10:17 pm »

Then why give tero 30 seconds for the vent? why just get inside it and kill them?

I suggest if we got out of the vent before the 30 second finishes we should not be killed, otherwise no reason for the vent rule.

Dr.Richtofen · « **Reply #8 on:** August 07, 2012, 12:49:04 am »

Well Thats a good point 1st of all fat boi

(thats what me and him call eachother) but some cts/admins say that the starting bit of the vent in jail_rehab_b1 is not the vent so that means they can fk anyone who didnt make it to the vent?

So in the rules we should tell people that in jail_rehab_b1 you can either kill em in that part or not kill em in that part because today i raged at some admins like numidis,destroy sama because the said that that is not a part of the vent......

Eddy Wall-e · « **Reply #9 on:** August 07, 2012, 01:16:11 am »

for example jb_snow...when a t goes in the vent to got to the roof and the ct sees him,the ct cant shoot...this way the t has an opportunity to rebel...if the t comes back the ct can choose to kill him or let him live simple

Cando · « **Reply #10 on:** August 07, 2012, 03:14:22 am »

Quote from: Eddy wall-E DJ on August 07, 2012, 01:16:11 am

for example jb_snow...when a t goes in the vent to got to the roof and the ct sees him,the ct cant shoot...this way the t has an opportunity to rebel...if the t comes back the ct can choose to kill him or let him live simple

For example, jb_snow has cell and this cell has a vent inside it, CTs says vent 30 seconds when u get out they simply kill u.. its unfair.

This rule doesnt apply in all maps, because somevents can get u inside the gunroom.

Eddy Wall-e · « **Reply #11 on:** August 07, 2012, 03:56:26 am »

Quote from: Cando on August 07, 2012, 03:14:22 am

Quote from: Eddy wall-E DJ on August 07, 2012, 01:16:11 am
for example jb_snow...when a t goes in the vent to got to the roof and the ct sees him,the ct cant shoot...this way the t has an opportunity to rebel...if the t comes back the ct can choose to kill him or let him live simple
For example, jb_snow has cell and this cell has a vent inside it, CTs says vent 30 seconds when u get out they simply kill u.. its unfair.

This rule doesnt apply in all maps, because somevents can get u inside the gunroom.

life is unfair, what are you gonna do about it...ct can choose is he wants to kill you or not ^^

'PL' · « **Reply #12 on:** August 07, 2012, 07:44:38 am »

Pretty sure spaff and snap solved the topic, don't risk since you will die in both cases
If u remove vent they will camp in that vent for a lonnnng time, until a ct gets bored and starts to sleep on the job
If u remove rebel rule(connected with vent rebelling) you get all-access pass to anywhere on the map

MonsteR · « **Reply #13 on:** August 07, 2012, 12:00:22 pm »

What is wrong with you guys, admins and players? You dont know the rules or what? The rule is more then clear.

But i will explain it as i see many ppl cant understand it.

If the CT say that you have 30 sec to leave the vent or he will kill you this thing means that if you dont leave it in 30 sec you die. BUT if you leave it before the 30 sec pass this means CT is not allowed to kill you. If he does kill you then you get a FD.

Simple - Cts say: Leave the vent in 30 sec or you die. Then as i said Ts have to leave it or they will die if they stay in.

Solved and Locked

sMiT · « **Reply #14 on:** August 07, 2012, 08:37:20 pm »

Just to reiterate monsters point... if ct's give the T's 30 seconds to get out of the vent, it is essentially allowing the T to join back in the game without being killed.
You can however, decide not to give the 30 seconds to get out of the vent, let the T stay in there until he decides to want to rebel and comes out, and then kill for rebelling

(i think)
Am i right in saying this monster?

SNap · « **Reply #15 on:** August 07, 2012, 08:56:13 pm »

Sorry for unlocking this topic but I dont agree with this.

Just because the T went in the vent I must spare him? If he couldnt manage to escape and i got him on the other side of the vent it means he failed rebelling. Not that I mean it should be removed since it helps the Ts because if it was removed i could shoot inside and they got no chance. The rule should not be "30 seconds to leave the vent" but "30 seconds until i go inside"!

Ocelvon · « **Reply #16 on:** August 07, 2012, 08:59:24 pm »

The 30 seconds was to give a chance to T to find a way to get out of there and continue the rebell
They rebelled they are allowed to be killed the T in any circumstances(given that he spent more than 30 secs in vent)

sMiT · « **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2012, 09:08:20 pm »

Quote from: SNap on August 07, 2012, 08:56:13 pm

Sorry for unlocking this topic but I dont agree with this.

Just because the T went in the vent I must spare him? If he couldnt manage to escape and i got him on the other side of the vent it means he failed rebelling. Not that I mean it should be removed since it helps the Ts because if it was removed i could shoot inside and they got no chance. The rule should not be "30 seconds to leave the vent" but "30 seconds until i go inside"!

But then what is the point in the vent rule at all?
Why is there any need to give 30 seconds to get out of the vent, if either way hes going to be killed?
Would be simpler and save CT's breath to not even bother to give vent time and just kill.
And i think more importantly, the CT's can easily get in position to be able to block the T from rebelling via vents, on any map.

Weed Farmerr · « **Reply #18 on:** August 07, 2012, 10:08:48 pm »

Quote from: SNap on August 07, 2012, 08:56:13 pm

Sorry for unlocking this topic but I dont agree with this.

Just because the T went in the vent I must spare him? If he couldnt manage to escape and i got him on the other side of the vent it means he failed rebelling. Not that I mean it should be removed since it helps the Ts because if it was removed i could shoot inside and they got no chance. The rule should not be "30 seconds to leave the vent" but "30 seconds until i go inside"!

Yeah +1
"30 seconds until I come inside and !*#^!%#!* you

"

And smit,If a ct say "Vent 30 sec" you can stay there and get killed or you have 30 seconds to continue your rebel and find a way to escape from the Ct's.

sMiT · « **Reply #19 on:** August 07, 2012, 10:12:51 pm »

Quote from: WeedFarmer on August 07, 2012, 10:08:48 pm

Quote from: SNap on August 07, 2012, 08:56:13 pm
Sorry for unlocking this topic but I dont agree with this.

Just because the T went in the vent I must spare him? If he couldnt manage to escape and i got him on the other side of the vent it means he failed rebelling. Not that I mean it should be removed since it helps the Ts because if it was removed i could shoot inside and they got no chance. The rule should not be "30 seconds to leave the vent" but "30 seconds until i go inside"!

Yeah +1
"30 seconds until I come inside and !*#^!%#!* you "

And smit,If a ct say "Vent 30 sec" you can stay there and get killed or you have 30 seconds to continue your rebel and find a way to escape from the Ct's.

and the flip side to that is... ct's wait there until 30 seconds are over...is impossible to be able to rebel even if you wanted to or not.
As i said the ct's have more than enough time to go and guard the vent exits and guide the T's back to wherever events are occuring.
Either way, deal with the vent rule as it is and stop freekilling, or persuade Monster to remove the vent rule, they are your 2 options.