Author Topic: Unban request Liam. (Read 342 times)

iPawN// Gee Gee · « **on:** July 16, 2012, 01:34:43 am »

Name: Liam / LuXx
Server: All
Admin: Shark
Time: Long time ago.

Since his last unban request was denied, i am making a new unban request for him.
There is no doubt that Liam is one of the oldest members in the Ambrosia community. He has had some troubles with certain staff and that led to his permanent ban. However, a personal vendetta should not conclude in a permanent ban made by a single person. Liam has always been one of the most valuable Jailbreak players, turned the server into a funny and enjoyable place with a variety of creative ideas and games. His attitude might confuse someone from time to time but everyone has his ups and downs.

It all comes down to the most simple rule. When you respect, you receive respect. Same goes for me, same goes for Liam. If he pissed off Shark, it is because he overreacted and one misunderstanding led to another. I am confident that he didn't meant to be so offensive and a constructive and honest dialog between the 2 of you in a ts3 server could easily solve it for good. You are both mature and adults.

I strongly believe that Ambrosia should welcome one of its best members back. In the end, this is a gaming community, like Sami said, we should not get into silly fights, more like solve our problems and tiny differencies.

I hope that this time, his unban request will have a positive result. And now that wtb and ambrosia is merging, i think it is time to start fresh, it is a new page for this community, i would like Liam to be a part of it.

Thank you.

Big Bob · « **Reply #1 on:** July 16, 2012, 01:34:43 am »

Thank you for posting an Unban Request. Shortly the Emperors shall review your unban request. Please in the meantime have patience and DO NOT ban evade (which means; you cannot play in any of our servers while banned), otherwise your request will be automatically DENIED. In the meantime read clearly the Unban Request Rules. If the admin doesn't provide a demo within 48h after you posted this unban request, then you'll go free and you'll be unbanned.

Regards,
The Ambrosian Emperors.

~RoN · « **Reply #2 on:** July 16, 2012, 01:55:23 am »

Well Hello i pawn.

He was not banned just because of misunderstanding with shark he was banned also in jailbreak for breaking rules any way just adding this also

.

RoNi

'PL' · « **Reply #3 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:21:39 am »

I wouldn't bother liam since he has cs global offensive now

When he will get bored we should consider some unbans.

Support for a bit of nepotistic reasons
Luxxed Replica

wavee · « **Reply #4 on:** July 16, 2012, 11:21:52 am »

I go support as Soraka.

MonsteR · « **Reply #5 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:26:37 pm »

I pawn. I dont think you are the preson which must make unban request for some1 when you are still not unbaned. Anyways lets dont go off topic. Liam was banned because he was behaving really really bad when there was no admin. He was freekilling/swearing and stuff, but when there was admin he was like an angel actualy not a real one as he was disrespecting the admins and swearing time to time as well. I was undercover in the server and personaly banned him for this reason for a day (freekilling while there is no admin). After that he banevaded and got a perm ban by burningsoul. So i dont want such kind of players in the server. I am agains him being unbanned.

Regards,
Monster

Alberto · « **Reply #6 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:40:14 pm »

When he was admin he was a really good person, but with the time he showed his real personality, and he sweared to me a lot(at my family, to me.., freekilled me a lot.. etc) and I am totally against his unban request. with tolga it was different i gave him a support, with pawn i was neutral, but with liam i am against his unban request. He doesnt deserve be unbanned still

redshift' · « **Reply #7 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:48:59 pm »

No support

trouble maker

just wanna keep laming while no admins are here !

sorry but truth is truth !

MonsteR · « **Reply #8 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:58:56 pm »

I made the first no support but as i see i am not the last as well. Some other players agree that he must not be unbanned too. Red is a really old and good admin, he knows liam really good and he knows how liam behaves as well.

Liam was my firend but he changed a lot.

Thats all i can say...

With all respect,
Monster

iPawN// Gee Gee · « **Reply #9 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:59:01 pm »

Quote from: MonsteR on July 16, 2012, 07:26:37 pm

I pawn. I dont think you are the preson which must make unban request for some1 when you are still not unbaned. Anyways lets dont go off topic. Liam was banned because he was behaving really really bad when there was no admin. He was freekilling/swearing and stuff, but when there was admin he was like an angel actualy not a real one as he was disrespecting the admins and swearing time to time as well. I was undercover in the server and personaly banned him for this reason for a day (freekilling while there is no admin). After that he banevaded and got a perm ban by burningsoul. So i dont want such kind of players in the server. I am agains him being unbanned.

Regards,
Monster

Ok look. I said it before, i will say it again. You are a pretty yound lad. Your attitude towards me is not mature or correct either. You know perfectly well that i can be the best guy around, as long as you show me respect. Show me the opposite and storm comes. And you know i really don't give a damn if you are head Admin and somehow you have the illusion that i will talk differently to you. Because i won't.

I talk only to the emperors of Ambrosia, the people who pay so you can play and be head Admin and make topics, and lock topics, and make archives.

Now, i know i will be unbanned, i know what everyone says and how my unban moves, you don't have to say anything. And if i think that i should make an unban request for Liam, then i will do so, with or without your permission. Ok?

I don't wanna know what Liam has done to anyone here. I had fights with him and trust issues. I just don't care. I support his unban, i give him a chance. What happens from now on is not up to me, its up to the community. I am well aware that Casper is a damn good person, same goes for Shark, and let me tell you.. many opinions will be posted here, it will be reviewed, dicisions will be made. For now, either you are admin, h/a, member, post your opinion in a respectful and calm manner and leave topic.

Thanks.

MonsteR · « **Reply #10 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:06:32 pm »

Dont rage pawn i know the truth hurts.... That the real liam and i dont think i am the only one who thinks so. And i am giving my opinion about you making the unban request but not telling you that you cant make unabn request. Every1 is free to do what ever he wants ofc if he isnt breaking the rules.

iPawN// Gee Gee · « **Reply #11 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:08:58 pm »

Quote from: MonsteR on July 16, 2012, 08:06:32 pm

Dont rage pawn i know the truth hurts.... That the real liam and i dont think i am the only one who thinks so. And i am giving my opinion about you making the unban request but not telling you that you cant make unabn request. Every1 is free to do what ever he wants ofc if he isnt breaking the rules.

I don't rage my friend. I just can't take comments like this or the one you made on my own unban request.
Anyways, thanks for your opinion, dont reply cause you know how this turns into a dumb fight.

Weed Farmerr · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:17:20 pm »

The other players said it all.I dont have something to add.

I dont want this kind of players in the Server.I cant say that someone is one of the best player of Ambrosia or he made the Jb server enjoyable if he is swearing,freekilling,breaking rules ect when admins in not online and when admins are online he has the perfect personality in the world.I believe that now with the merge some players should get unbanned and high stuff give some changes if the person deserve it and have changed his attitude.

Ambrosia community or any other community is made by the loyal members that are playing in the servers,having fun and enjoy the game.It's made by the High stuff and the Admins that they are trying to improve,fix and make the community enjoyable.Not by the players that they are banned but their past was good because they made some good things.In my opinion he is nothing for this community as he crossed the line and banned permanently.

Also Shark is not a kid or a guy that banning players for now reasons or for his own reasons.It cant be a misunderstanding ,he didnt follow the Ambrosia's rules and Shark kicked him out.If you want to be part of a community you have to follow the rules of this community,be friendly,loyal ect..

Moreover I dont thing that you are in a position to make unban request for other players and asking to get unbanned as you are banned.And dont make topics in public if you dont want normal players,admins,HA posting their opinions here,you could pm high stuff or Idk.

Last thing,I cant understand the point of this topic as his last unban request get denied.What are you waiting?To make 10 unban requests and expecting one of them "unbanned" ?.

Mr-aNumiDiS · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:21:06 pm »

Please unban liam, he is a very good person if you get to know him well, I really enjoy talking to him on steam.. and thank you Ipawn for making an unban request for this mature fella, yes mature, he is all the time mature, untill someone pisses him off so he shows out his dark side! please unban him. xoxo

SNap · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:28:20 pm »

Luxx is one of the first Ambrosians i met. Same as you Ipawn he can be awesome friend and cool guy but he is reckless. He doesnt think about the consequences and after that he says sorry. Thats why he had infinity chances but he never changes unlike tolga who shows very good behaviour. I respect Luxx and he shows respect towards me but this is getting lame. He was banned for banevading, bad behavior while admin is offline and i think even for cheating. If he gets unban even tho he did all this then this means we should unban all. There must be justice. No one should be special for Ambrosia. Rules are to be followed not just to be there for beauty. I would like Luxx to be unbanned because he is my friend but we must be fair.

iPawN// Gee Gee · « **Reply #15 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:32:04 pm »

Quote from: WeedFarmer on July 16, 2012, 08:17:20 pm

The other players said it all.I dont have something to add.

I dont want this kind of players in the Server.I cant say that someone is one of the best player of Ambrosia or he made the Jb server enjoyable if he is swearing,freekilling,breaking rules ect when admins in not online and when admins are online he has the perfect personality in the world.I believe that now with the merge some players should get unbanned and high stuff give some changes if the person deserve it and have changed his attitude.

Ambrosia community or any other community is made by the loyal members that are playing in the servers,having fun and enjoy the game.It's made by the High stuff and the Admins that they are trying to improve,fix and make the community enjoyable.Not by the players that they are banned but their past was good because they made some good things.In my opinion he is nothing for this community as he crossed the line and banned permanently.

Also Shark is not a kid or a guy that banning players for now reasons or for his own reasons.It cant be a misunderstanding ,he didnt follow the Ambrosia's rules and Shark kicked him out.If you want to be part of a community you have to follow the rules of this community,be friendly,loyal ect..

Moreover I dont thing that you are in a position to make unban request for other players and asking to get unbanned as you are banned.And dont make topics in public if you dont want normal players,admins,HA posting their opinions here,you could pm high stuff or Idk.

Last thing,I cant understand the point of this topic as his last unban request get denied.What are you waiting?To make 10 unban requests and expecting one of them "unbanned" ?.

You misunderstood my post since your english level is below 0.
Since you are a very young member here, i advise you to drop down your attitude a bit. This is not YOUR Jailbreak...

Weed Farmerr · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:39:26 pm »

Monster,do you understand now why I dont want to write in those topics ??

[Awesome Edit] : I registered yesterday ,Casper made me admin and I made 200 posts,so yes I can see that I am very young member

You advice me?Why?Who are you to advice me?Nobody

.If you read again my post(English lvl 0) you will see that I didnt say anything like "In my server,or say something that mean is my server".Maybe if you could reach my English LvL (0) you could understand post better.

[Awesome End] : Cry more ?

Cersei · « **Reply #17 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:00:24 pm »

Absolutely no support

I don't know him, but something has come to my attention, that he was involved in something not nice against me when I don't even know the guy. I don't know if it is totally true, but I have enough information to believe it is. I am not going to post anything about the matter, just accept my no support for this reason and for reasons stated above.

Ipawn you have been behaving well on the forums (relatively) and I hope you will carry on doing so, but if you care of other member's opinions (since I am one of them) I think that you are not really person who should be doing his unban request, given the fact that you are not forgiven totally yourself.

ℓσкαтσя · « **Reply #18 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:03:22 pm »

Support! hes an awesome guy!

tαshαღ · « **Reply #19 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:10:11 pm »

Support for unban.
don't get what the big issue is, what he did was just words and the odd freekilling of people who provoked him. Liam had plenty of evidence on many people and enough evidence to get people banned but unfortunately because of who he is it was largely ignored. He's a nice guy but has moments of madness where he will do things wrong but at least he admits to the faults. So what if he swears? 90% of jailbreak swears, admins swear, high staff swear there, players swear, i don't see what the big issue is with slipping out the odd swear word here and there when it's only passive swearing.

People say blablabla he is different when no admins are on, most of the time his behaviour was the same with admins on or not and this was just an excuse. he isn't afraid of admins, it was more that the admins who were on didn't want to deal with him or wanted to protect their friends and allowed him to misbehave.

he deserves an unban.. he was fun on the server and it's not like he was cheating or doing anything that people don't do everyday. most of the people posting here saying no support have done the same as liam in the past in terms of breaking rules. some of what he said may have been a bit OTT but they're only words on the internet so it's about time people got over it.

look at what jailbreak has become, it used to have many ct's who could speak perfect english and would do fun days. now it's the same people who are 12/13 yrs old and they rarely get a round as CT because they're so bad at being CT. it would be nice to have old people back who were able to command well and make jailbreak what it is rather than a big rebelling festival. 90% of the times i go on jb now i have a better score as a terrorist than the ct's because all the good commanders have gone and it's been taken over by children who cant speak english and should never be put CT in the first place.