Author Topic: Unban z0rgan & zirgan (Read 206 times)

tαshαღ · « **on:** July 10, 2012, 04:11:57 am »

Name: zorgan (named gangan at the time)
Reason: telling an admin to F off
Date & Time: 10/07/2012 2am
Admin: onyz
Server: Jailbreak

Name: papafdank
Reason: freekilling
Date & Time: 10/07/2012 2am
Admin: onyz
Server: Jailbreak

Before i asked arne if i could make an unban request for other people when the other danish people were banned and he said yes. Basically another danish guy tried out jailbreak, apparently he freekilled a few people by mistake because it was his first time playing and he was permanently banned. in retaliation to his friend being banned zorgan told the admin to f off and said the admin was dumb and is now also possibly perm banned. i've spoken with zorgan and he knows he was in the wrong and shouldn't have flamed at the admin but tbh i think perm banning a new player for freekilling people by mistake is a bit extreme. a lot of the danish guys are still learning jailbreak and make the odd mistakes but it isn't a reason to just instantly perm ban them. i thought these guys would be the ones who didn't receive a perm ban yet, this adds up to about 12 of them who have been perm banned for trying to learn mods now!

BEARFORCE1 zorgan: he perm banned my mate, who is a first timer, for doing a freekill NEAR the gunroom, but not in it
ღtαshα: sec
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: and then he made me quit the game
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: because he THOUGHT that i didnt have a mic
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: then when I joined i complained
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: then he said he was tried, so I wrote
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: then fuck off
ღtαshα: ok
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: and then i got permed
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: I was pissed
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: he ruined the game
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: yeah I know
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: but he TOTALLY destroyed the game
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: no1 wanted to be CT after that
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: we were just sitting 9 as T
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: and I wasnt allowed to be CT
BEARFORCE1 zorgan: nobody else wanted to

Big Bob · « **Reply #1 on:** July 10, 2012, 04:11:57 am »

Thank you for posting an Unban Request. Shortly the Emperors shall review your unban request. Please in the meantime have patience and DO NOT ban evade (which means; you cannot play in any of our servers while banned), otherwise your request will be automatically DENIED. In the meantime read clearly the Unban Request Rules. If the admin doesn't provide a demo within 48h after you posted this unban request, then you'll go free and you'll be unbanned.

Regards,
The Ambrosian Emperors.

onyzz;; · « **Reply #2 on:** July 10, 2012, 04:20:48 am »

Well, zorgan i guess, i didn't ban u permanently but, for only 60 mon, so no need to unban request, about zirgan... i banned him for freekilling and rulebreaking

, dont actualy have any demo, only my word and some witnesses, such as roni and the guys that were in the server.

Edit: about no1 wanted to be ct, i guess 3/4/5 am, depending on gmt is not actually a good hour to make noise

tαshαღ · « **Reply #3 on:** July 10, 2012, 04:29:39 am »

I understand but papaf is new to the mod and genuinely didn't understand things. i think he just sprayed at people by mistake due to lack of experience. he's played in basebuilder a lot and learnt the mod fairly and then he tried jailbreak to play with the other guys and he got perm banned. he's sorry he freekilled but he didn't understand it, the others will help him to learn it better so he won't make the same mistake again if he's unbanned!

onyzz;; · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2012, 04:32:53 am »

as i said you on steam, i didnt know he was new to the mod, and thought he was one of those night freekillers, so thats the main reason i didnt warn actually.

DiNoTreasure · « **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2012, 04:33:43 am »

Support for unban because i also done something like this when i first joined jb.. i didnt know what it was and i fk'ed
so i think they deserve another chance, maybe a 1 day ban for the guy who flamed admin but ye, unban i think would be acceptable.

Drake.

DrDrake · « **Reply #6 on:** July 10, 2012, 05:00:14 am »

Quote from: DiNoTreasure on July 10, 2012, 04:33:43 am

Support for unban because i also done something like this when i first joined jb.. i didnt know what it was and i fk'ed
so i think they deserve another chance, maybe a 1 day ban for the guy who flamed admin but ye, unban i think would be acceptable.

Drake.

werent you banned from forum btw?

also, it doesnt matter if they break rules or not at their first day of jb, bans will be lesson to both of them, so next time they will come on here maybe and read rules.

Ed · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2012, 05:13:35 am »

If I remember correctly then they should make unban request themselves by rules. Any particular reason they don't do it?
Laziness is not an excuse. If they create an account at least we know that they might bother to read rules. No matter what you might say tasha, it is principle and no one should be an exception.

tαshαღ · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2012, 05:15:02 am »

I understand sami, but there is basically a group of them. I have asked arne previously if i could and he said yes, i don't see the issue with it, there is many of them who have helped make the servers popular before and i thought i would make it to save them time since i already had an account.

Cersei · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:28:55 am »

Issue with it is that most of us are not allowed to make unban requests for anyone and I don't see why you are any different. Those guys seem to be speaking English fine.
As for unban Onyz said it was one hour ban so I don't get why people even posting their supports for unbanning him? unless I missed something

tαshαღ · « **Reply #10 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:30:46 am »

yes cersei but this is like the 9-10th person out of their group to be banned now. zorgan was banned for 1 hour but he thought it was perm, zirgan is still perm banned for freekilling.

Ezzα · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:15:38 am »

Best practice is to ask Zirgan to read the rules for JB. However, my understanding is that FK doesnt carry a permanent ban or am i wrong?

Sight · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:25:05 am »

Quote from: Ezzαღ on July 10, 2012, 09:15:38 am

Best practice is to ask Zirgan to read the rules for JB. However, my understanding is that FK doesnt carry a permanent ban or am i wrong?

if they do it repeatly like oynz said, he is one of those nightly freekillers..

tαshαღ · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:31:13 am »

he is not a nightly freekiller. he killed people out of panic, not intentionally freekilling.

Sight · « **Reply #14 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:36:11 am »

Quote from: tαshαღ on July 10, 2012, 10:31:13 am

he killed people out of panic

i think they should be brought here instead of doing this unban request trough tasha

iPawN// Gee Gee · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:45:00 am »

Quote from: tαshαღ on July 10, 2012, 05:15:02 am

I understand sami, but there is basically a group of them. I have asked arne previously if i could and he said yes, i don't see the issue with it, there is many of them who have helped make the servers popular before and i thought i would make it to save them time since i already had an account.

Yes, like when the americans came in the server one night and i had to fight approximately 40 minutes to persuade everyone to go spec and then votekick them. Yes, that made the server extremely popular...

Ezzα · « **Reply #16 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:53:07 am »

Quote from: Sight on July 10, 2012, 10:25:05 am

if they do it repeatly like oynz said, he is one of those nightly freekillers..

Sight but Oynz perm banned him on the basis that he thought they were persistent night free killers when they wasn't, he has admitted he wasn't sure.

'PL' · « **Reply #17 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:53:27 am »

Interesting thing was that this gorgan can't understand TO STAND STILL LOL

onyzz;; · « **Reply #18 on:** July 10, 2012, 12:15:26 pm »

Quote from: Ezzαღ on July 10, 2012, 10:53:07 am

Quote from: Sight on July 10, 2012, 10:25:05 am
if they do it repeatly like oynz said, he is one of those nightly freekillers..

Sight but Oynz perm banned him on the basis that he thought they were persistent night free killers when they wasn't, he has admitted he wasn't sure.

ye, i said i supposed he was one of those freekillers, because i dont use to stay on the server til 3 or 4 am,s o my apologies for that

Sight · « **Reply #19 on:** July 10, 2012, 01:11:35 pm »

oh then he should get unbanned or a temp ban must be given

, but i think he learnt his lesson, maybe someone can forward him to read the rules ^^