[SURF] Surf Server's admin meeting.

[JF]

Have in mind Taha, Sunday between 19:00 - 21:30 I am at training. I can't miss there a thing.

+1 GMT , Macedonian time.

Don't worry , I think It's going to be held @ 14:00-15:00 GMT+0

I won't be available from 13:30-17:00 GMT +0....
And I don't understand again that why do we have to do everything with rushing through the things? I suggested to set the date to next weekend, so people have time to plan their events so that they could come, no point if 50% of the admins cannot join.

[taha]

Have in mind Taha, Sunday between 19:00 - 21:30 I am at training. I can't miss there a thing.

+1 GMT , Macedonian time.

Don't worry , I think It's going to be held @ 14:00-15:00 GMT+0

I won't be available from 13:30-17:00 GMT +0....
And I don't understand again that why do we have to do everything with rushing through the things? I suggested to set the date to next weekend, so people have time to plan their events so that they could come, no point if 50% of the admins cannot join.

Well I'm rushing because of the server's current state
only few admins are administrating and active , the others don't want to because of the server's current mod ,
camper plugin is a bloody mess and we need to sort it fast
server getting repetitive because it has only 1 map (ss2)
it needs new rules
therefore it's pretty much messed up and we need to sort it as soon as possible

[JF]

I didn't ask you to delete/trash the rules, which were valid and up to date, since there isn't that many things you need to enforce in a surf server.
+ the server is currently ranked 17 in all of the surf servers. So I don't see what's the big rush for?
Yes the campmeter is messed up, but when it does work, it eases the admins work. The only time admins need to punish the campers are when they camp on an edge of the platform or when their campmeter is bugged. Every other time the admins main task is to catch and ban cheaters and help people when in need.

So again, what's all  the fuss about? We just need to establish a few simple things and set our destination.

[taha]

I told you like a zillion times : I didn't want to trash those rules but I'm asked to , they were made by a member who deleted his account , I can post the proof that I'm asked to post all the rules by my self but again I can't leak high staff stuff from high boards
I can post all the rules which were on Ishooter's topic (which btw were rules from the old server .aka classic server with no plugin that kicks from gunroom and buyroom automatically and prevents killing) and they are pretty much outdated
You said that the server is pretty active , true true , but with big activity we need active administrators as well and trust me nowadays I only see Tango & Popay in server.
And remember when a server is pretty much active , it's not full with people who do know english , respect the rules and check our forums , a high percentage of the players are either from Russia or east european countries , and not to be racist or some stuff like that but a majority of them are bloody cheating ! And with 2 only active admins we can't do much !
EDIT : Let's just stop the off-topic replies and decide a time shall we ?!

[JF]

You're only seeing tango and popay, because they play during the days, while I play majority of my time at nights.
The thing with the rules was that you could have just copy pasted the rules and made it to a new topic + remove the rules that were outdated, like killing inside gunroom and mario.

However if you're going to set the meetings time 1 day before the meeting, then it's not very professional and it can bring confusion, specially when it comes to planning out the meeting, of what to discuss about.

About the high staff request, you could have replied and told that you will do it after we have the meeting, so we start off properly.

[taha]

ok this is really starting to get on my nerves !
First of all check the rules' topic ===> temporary rules , I even told you like 2 days ago when you told me why I trashed the rules , I told you that It's just temporary and I prefer to make the rules after the meeting , you kept whining that there are no rules so I said ok I'm gonna make some rules until we decide the new ones , but i see that you are really not getting satisfied with my work , really don't know why !
About copying the rules , you don't even know what are the rules on that topic , u didnt even remember who made them when i asked u two days ago !
and about the date of the meeting and the topic , the topic is made like 2 days ago lol and the meeting date i chose is sunday
And JF if you really want to do stuff way better than I do , you just have to ask high staff if you want to , cuz really if it irritates so bad , i would be delighted to give my position to you !

[Daniel]

oy oy! Taha just set a date, time and place. They shall join if they are interested or if they can attend, pretty sure some will join, interested people will.

['PL']

So IS TOMORROW 14-15?

[JF]

Relax taha, I'm sorry if I sounded aggressive, but I just want to make the server better and I have nothing against you. I assumed a long time, before you got promoted, that you will become the HA as you have been an admin there for a long time, but there's some things you need to take in consideration when your dealing with people across the world, with different lifestyles and time planning. Not everyone has the ability to just jump into a meeting with a short notice ahead.
The topic indeed was made two days ago, however we're still not settled with the date. If we settle the date tomorrow on Sunday as you suggested, then it technically is a day before or you disagree with me?

As long as I remember, you didn't ask me who made the topic, only that what rules were on the topic. I do remember that there was under 15 rules for sure and most of them were quite basic, very much alike to the public/classic, dm, etc servers. Only that we had some modifications, like instead of having basecamp or completing the objective, we had the rule which said no camping for longer than 15seconds. + Mario and gunroom killing, however you cannot kill inside there anyways so they were invalid.

About the date as I have suggested for three days now, 30th would be fine. It's Saturday, people have time to plan a week ahead and I don't think a lot will work on Saturday either...

[taha]

Seems Legit , I'll just make a poll for it in this topic , therefore we can choose the time in a democratic way

[DrDrake]

voted for tuesday the 26th.

['PL']

Sunday
I can't play cs or participate after 29th june to 9 july

[taha]

Forums were down for 4 days , we could not communicate much thus decided to postpone the admin meeting until Saturday @ 14 GMT+0

['PL']

i can't come
On vacation :*

[taha]

Meeting was held today @ 14 gmt+0 until 15 gmt +0
People who attended :
taha
JF
Ande
DukeDevlin
Arne
Stevko


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