[UNBANNED]Unban Request

[haste]

Hello Admins..

Me and 8 other danish mates played jailbreak yesterday in like 2 hours until "the JF" comes in and like ruined the game..
Instantly he goes CT and asked for anyone to go CT and when im the only one answering he just denied me so I joined CT and got kicked.
Then I was going on T and asked to be CT like this way: "Hey JF can I please be CT so I can play with my 8 mates so someone can do some commands" but no answer.. We considered to leave cause he dind't do any commands as a CT should do. But after 2 minutes or so, I tried to join again to see if it was going on after we leaved and one second after I got IP-BANNED! I wasn't mean or anything and I followed the rules so im a bit confused about the ban?

My steamid: STEAM_0:0:17921597
And I have played it like a fine guy all the time following the command and not be a bad T trying to have some fun.. really is lame!

[Big Bob]

Thank you for posting an Unban Request. Shortly the Emperors shall review your unban request. Please in the meantime have patience and DO NOT ban evade(which means; you cannot play in any of our servers while banned), otherwise your request will be automatically DENIED.

Regards,
The Ambrosian Emperors.

[Ed]

Lets hear what JF has to say about this.

Also would be great-full if High staff could check logs to see what can we do about this.

[haste]

Yup.. The reason was: Muches graces for letting me use the command for the 4th time today
I can't see why it's not okay to join CT when the CT's is sitting in the weapon room and just shoot us..
Like the reason in jailbreak is to do what the CT say.. But what to do if they just open the cells like after 2 minutes in them and then go into their weaponroom and wait for us to get the weapon and shoot us.. I just tried to get the game started by joining the CT :s
I haven't go over any rules or something like that.. not a rule I know about.. Even ask weed-farmer if I was playing fine the whole day.. And now we're 3 mates banned and normally we're like 8-11 danish people in who play it together? :s
I`m so confused....

['PL']

Simple
Don't selftrasnfer if the admin don't let you
You did it 2x, no wonder he banned you...

[tαshαღ]

I think this is wrong on JF's part.

If they were freekilling then it isn't a perm ban. These guys don't play Jailbreak so much and have only been aware of the mod for a few days where they've gone on as a large group the same as they did with Basebuilder. They aren't aware of the rules enough on jailbreak and have played really late at night with just them. When i was on i saw a lot of them being quitted for things but I don't think they understood things so much and for hide and seek day there wasn't any warnings about guns on the screen and they were still being punished.

All 3 guys who were perm banned for this should be unbanned, there's no reason why 3 guys should be perm banned when they've known of the mod for such a little time and was just a misunderstanding. when 95% of the server are your mates and there's one admin who's refusing to cooperate i guess it can be annoying because that's how it was when i joined for a short period.

[haste]

Simple
Don't selftrasnfer if the admin don't let you
You did it 2x, no wonder he banned you...

But would you just sit in your cell and wait to die? it's hillarious really! I assumed he dindt care since he dindt answer. And he just went afk another rule you can't stay afk.. and maybe I broke one rule but he broke like 3-4 rules? So it's only fair if me and actually 2 of my other mates got unbanned.. they got banned cause they killed him like WTF is going on? :s
I hope you can see what I mean?

[Ezzα]

Lets wait for JF to respond

[JF]

Banevade much?
Ezza, go look  at the logs, I banned them each for 60min previously, they joined 2min later, so I permbanned them.

I transferred them all back to T many times, kicked, quitted and then banned for 60min after they continued to selftransfer.


Don't see why this discussion when you come to banevade?...

[haste]

Lets wait for JF to respond

Yes of cause.. But it's just sad that we have to wait until he comes online tonight when me and my mate actually wanted to play it right now, nam sayin?!

Banevade much?
Ezza, go look  at the logs, I banned them each for 60min previously, they joined 2min later, so I permbanned them.

I transferred them all back to T many times, kicked, quitted and then banned for 60min after they continued to selftransfer.


Don't see why this discussion when you come to banevade?...

You dindt gave us a reason to close our game? and when you banned us for 60 minutes no reason to? and I asked you and said please let me be ct so it's not freeday in 7 rounds or something? and when you dindt answer i just joined ct cause I dindt know that rule.. but yes I/we made a fall that we selfjoined ct that we dindt know anything about and I appologize but at the same time you dindt do your work as a CT and shoot us in the gunroom like I just read all the rules and you did something wrong too? so I would make a big fat line over it and unban us and forget everything about it? Like really I just got pissed cause we where sitting in our cells for man than two minutes in like 7 rounds and when you opened the cells it was a freeday and it was such a little map so you coulnd't really do anything.. really bro.. just unban us and forget what happended so we can play and have fun.. Seriously I appoligize for our "rudeness" or what you will call it. (to don't follow the rule about joining ct when it's not allowed) "A RULE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT"

[tαshαღ]

The bans aren't working and since they are all new players they wouldn't of had any idea about that. Did you fully explain to them what banevading was? I doubt it, bet you just hit perm ban automatically.

[haste]

The bans aren't working and since they are all new players they wouldn't of had any idea about that. Did you fully explain to them what banevading was? I doubt it, bet you just hit perm ban automatically.

The reason we joined CT was because we wanted the game to start.. They liturally where afk in the gunroom and just shoot us when we found a way out of our cells.. We got pissed cause it suddenly went so borring.. When the weed-farmer where ingame it was fun and everybody could be ct and we made games and he change map if we wanted it and stuff like that.. Like i think the JF should be in the situation yesterday!

And by the way WHAT IS BANEVADING? You're talking about something I don't know anything about? :p

[JF]

Stop lying maybe? I warned you not to selftransfer many many times as we already had next and ph0enix as CT, we didn't need any extra CT, but you continued to selftransfer after several warnings, kicks, quits and short bans.

Before me, weedfarmer was also kicking and quitting you, but he couldn't ban you since he's a trial admin. That's why he called me on steam to come and help him out.

[haste]

Stop lying maybe? I warned you not to selftransfer many many times as we already had next and ph0enix as CT, we didn't need any extra CT, but you continued to selftransfer after several warnings, kicks, quits and short bans.

Before me, weedfarmer was also kicking and quitting you, but he couldn't ban you since he's a trial admin. That's why he called me on steam to come and help him out.

Wow you say that im lying? Weed-farmer did not close my game? and thats for sure.. Before next and Phoenix joined the server you asked for CT's and I said yes but you did not answer me, why?
You got those 2 on CT for like one round and suddenly you banned 2 of my mates.. Then I leaved.. I tried joining again to give you an appologize so we could start from strat. But I got banned instantly?
Besides that you did not say anything.. You just kicked us.. It's not first time im seeing you being rude to players.. You are like a mad king that want to kill people cause you got a bad day or something?
It is my 3 day of playing JB and do you aspect me to know the rule already when it is 2. time i play with a admin...
The first day did we play 15 danish people together without the real rules cause we don't know them..
Second day we just played 10 people and one admin..
And yesterday it was our first can you call it real game?
Why cant you just take the appologize to you and say okay this time.. I'm nothing else than kind to you?
Like the way I spoke to you yesterday.. You were like I dont care fuck off.
Pretty please see it from our view dude?

[Ed]

Haste, firstly can you read the rules please http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=32.0 or if it's easier for you to understand, same rules just shorter version although this version is unofficial. http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=3454.0

Secondly, if an admin has asked you not to selftransfer and have even kicked you, you should not do it again and should just take a demo of an admin and post it here.

What matters on JF's version then I agree with Tasha, if they clearly didn't know the rules and if they were the ones who filled up the server, wanted to play as CT, you should of calmly explained them what's all about in short version. This person for me seems capable of understanding the rules. What I find disturbing is that if what Haste is saying is true and you were CT without commanding, opening cells and then just being in gunroom, then I am dissapointed, but that's not how the game is played and not the example to set for new players.

Also as Tasha said short bans don't work correctly.

If there is no proof to bring up from high staff then they should be unbanned.

[tαshαღ]

When I was on with Weedfarmer it was tw3aky he was quitting, not sure what his ingame name was but I think you're confusing some of the players.. When weedfarmer left and it was just with you things did change and you were kicking/quitting a lot of them without proper reasons purely based on them not knowing the rules. there wasn't any other normal player on i think and it was purely all of them who wanted to play as friends since it was so late in the night. the odd one or two of them were swearing and were quit by weedfarmer but it wasnt any of the three players who were perm banned. its normal for late at night for groups of people to go on the server together and play the maps and have fun and most admins accept it and will help them with it

these guys are the ones who fill up basebuilder a lot of the time too and at first they didn't know the rules and it took them a few days to adjust to it but they managed it so i think perm banning every single person who goes onto the server who isn't so sure of the rules is stupid.. the bans aren't working, you know that and so does every other admin so to perm ban them for it is too harsh given the fact they've played the mod 1 or 2 times before when there was no other players on and no admins. remember when you got banned jf and you were able to reconnect and you then got perm banned and you were saying how unfair it was? you KNEW the bans weren't working, these guys genuinely didn't understand.

all three of them should be unbanned, not just haste since they were all banned for the same reasons.

[haste]

I have read the rules today so i am not doing anything wrong again.

I got like 10 mates who can tell you the same story.. The CT's went afk for 3 minutes or so in every single round. Then come open the gates and run into the gunroom and just sit there and wait for us to run in there and die and again the same next round it happended in like 7 rounds.

He did not say anything about not to join the CT. He just remove us back and then we wait again and the same happended again.
Fine then I asked on a kind way to join the CT and explain the situation that we were many mates together and almost every T said to JF that they wanted me/haste to be CT! But no answer from JF! So I desidet even when i got kicked 4 minutes ago when I joined CT to do it again so we could play the game but he closed my game.. Fine then I joined the server and stayed T. I asked him kindly and no respons. Then 2 of my mates got frustated and joined CT and got banned.

Then we all leaved but as dumb as I am i joined the game again after 2 minutes or something like that and got banned after 5 seconds. (perm banned)..

I don't think it is okay to ban me for that reason when his not commanding on the CT side.. I got vitneses on that. In the whole time after tasha leaved he dindt do any commands!

I'm not into problems I just wanna play JB when my mates want too. I dont think the ban is okay cause I was like im not doing anything wrong cause admins haven't do anything about it before?..

But I say yes that I have exceeded a rule but i dont now anything about it before today and got no warnings!
I think you should look over it and take my apologies and move on?
I'm nothing else than an understanding person and I can see it from JF view but not that we get a perm ban! Not when his not saying anything about exceed a rule!

[JF]

I don't even bother to read all the long text here.

As I said, I gave multiple warnings not to selftransfer. If an admin tells you NOT to selftransfer, then it means, that you cannot selftransfer...

Besides, logs will tell everything.

[haste]

How can that guy be an admin when his not willing to read what I have to say?
And he did not say that we don't could join CT by ourself..
And even if he have said it, he have said it after i got kicked so I coulnd't see it..
Also im saying apologies and he don't give a ****..
Like tasha and Ed said we should get an unban because it's such a little misunderstanding and because I said im sorry!

[tαshαღ]

JF they are accusing you of something, I know when I was on it was another player being quit not any of the three which got banned.
Even if they did do that, it still doesn't mean a permanent ban and should be unbanned given the fact they were new to the server and were unaware of the rules. When an admin is on and co-operating with you at 3am in the morning and letting you play how you want, then that admin leaves and another admin wants to turn it into a boring server at 3am when he's the only one who wants to do it vs 95% of the server its annoying. In the past when players have been on at 3am with an admin on they help them have fun and if 1 person out of the 20 doesn't like it then the 1 person can leave... in this case you were that one person who didn't want to do it so you perm banned people after they retaliated.