Author Topic: 32-bit test (Read 277 times)

Burzum · « **on:** May 01, 2012, 11:09:19 pm »

in link u can see better description, this plug kicks u if u play 16 bits

http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=1109981

Zole · « **Reply #1 on:** May 01, 2012, 11:52:51 pm »

Good suggestion Burzum

The problem with players that want to take advantage with 16 bit to have a good score must be finished once and forever.

I strongly support this plugin or any other solution.

Sight · « **Reply #2 on:** May 02, 2012, 12:24:39 am »

Didnt get the problem really where 16bit is better then 24 or 32? More bits is more colors and visuals right?

And adding this will make sure you will have a low amount of players, it will kick peole wih very old computers that cant run 32 bit colors or computers that dont even support 32 bits

No support, the game is made to support both color bitdepths and it should stay like it!

Burzum · « **Reply #3 on:** May 02, 2012, 12:57:10 am »

Quote from: Deniz on May 02, 2012, 12:24:39 am

Didnt get the problem really where 16bit is better then 24 or 32? More bits is more colors and visuals right?

And adding this will make sure you will have a low amount of players, it will kick peole wih very old computers that cant run 32 bit colors or computers that dont even support 32 bits

No support, the game is made to support both color bitdepths and it should stay like it!

the problem is, if u play 16 u see through smoke, and u got an advantage, its like ex_interp 0.01
my pc is 5 or 6 years old and can support 32 bits... (AMD 3200 Ghz, 2Mb RAM, nvidia geforce 6600....)

Sight · « **Reply #4 on:** May 02, 2012, 01:01:18 am »

sorry, ddint read that mod.

still no support cuz people aim to play fast after a long day and not taking tests.

and most people dont have monster pc's, arne has a crap pc also.

and the problem is that most videocards from 2003 cant run 32 bits, and software runs crap on 32bits mode... and not all people have a same aged computer, hey have pc's from 1999 or 2000, my computer is originaly from 2003 and ive kept renewing parts and the only think that is from 2003 is my cd-drive for music and my datadrive full of crap xD

uNi stulda · « **Reply #5 on:** May 02, 2012, 04:26:19 am »

Quote from: Deniz on May 02, 2012, 12:24:39 am

Didnt get the problem really where 16bit is better then 24 or 32? More bits is more colors and visuals right?

And adding this will make sure you will have a low amount of players, it will kick peole wih very old computers that cant run 32 bit colors or computers that dont even support 32 bits

No support, the game is made to support both color bitdepths and it should stay like it!

Deniz 32bit colour depth is big disadvantage to those playing with 32bit. You can see though the smokes easily even when the whole area is covered with them.
I have been playing cs since 1999 and you really need to play on caltulator of some kind if you cannot have 32bit colour depth because of your fps droping down.
I used to play cs on computer - AMD Duron 700Mhz, Ge-force 2 MX 64MB, 512MB RAM memory. And my fps was fine and stable with 32 bits.
If there are players with even a lower pc components you talking probable about very few people of all the community.
Every league, tournament, LAN event require you to play with 32bits. And it's simple. Smoke grenades are to use in game for the enemy being unable to see though. Otherwise where is the point even buying when?
I have checked this plugin out as I saw it on few servers and it only takes you about 5 seconds to complete and you are ready to play. And I think 5 seconds is not a big sacrifice so all players have the same conditions and therefore are equal to each other.

Conclusion: This plugin has my BIG SUPPORT!

uNi stulda · « **Reply #6 on:** May 02, 2012, 04:27:10 am »

Quote from: Deniz on May 02, 2012, 01:01:18 am

sorry, ddint read that mod.

still no support cuz people aim to play fast after a long day and not taking tests.

and most people dont have monster pc's, arne has a crap pc also.

and the problem is that most videocards from 2003 cant run 32 bits, and software runs crap on 32bits mode... and not all people have a same aged computer, hey have pc's from 1999 or 2000, my computer is originaly from 2003 and ive kept renewing parts and the only think that is from 2003 is my cd-drive for music and my datadrive full of crap xD

vis my above comment

frOgNN · « **Reply #7 on:** May 02, 2012, 05:46:00 am »

Quote from: Burzum on May 02, 2012, 12:57:10 am

the problem is, if u play 16 u see through smoke, and u got an advantage, its like ex_interp 0.01
my pc is 5 or 6 years old and can support 32 bits...

I think u mean ex_interp 0.1 but anyways ,i have tried playing with 16bits and i can see the smoke (even if i force it in launch options).

Sight · « **Reply #8 on:** May 02, 2012, 07:37:09 am »

Quote from: stuldik on May 02, 2012, 04:26:19 am

Deniz 32bit colour depth is big disadvantage to those playing with 32bit. You can see though the smokes easily even when the whole area is covered with them.
I have been playing cs since 1999 and you really need to play on caltulator of some kind if you cannot have 32bit colour depth because of your fps droping down.
I used to play cs on computer - AMD Duron 700Mhz, Ge-force 2 MX 64MB, 512MB RAM memory. And my fps was fine and stable with 32 bits.
If there are players with even a lower pc components you talking probable about very few people of all the community.
Every league, tournament, LAN event require you to play with 32bits. And it's simple. Smoke grenades are to use in game for the enemy being unable to see though. Otherwise where is the point even buying when?
I have checked this plugin out as I saw it on few servers and it only takes you about 5 seconds to complete and you are ready to play. And I think 5 seconds is not a big sacrifice so all players have the same conditions and therefore are equal to each other.

Conclusion: This plugin has my BIG SUPPORT!

there are certain videocards that cant use 32-bits colormode.

and by adding this removes alot of players like i said before, they just want to play and not do a damn test...

uNi stulda · « **Reply #9 on:** May 02, 2012, 07:51:43 am »

Quote from: Deniz on May 02, 2012, 07:37:09 am

there are certain videocards that cant use 32-bits colormode.

and by adding this removes alot of players like i said before, they just want to play and not do a damn test...

How many people in nowadays has a machines that doesn't support 32bit colour depth? As I mentioned earlier you can easily get 100fps in 32bit mode on machines built around 1999 onwards.
And again the actual test will take you few seconds I have past it quite few times.
A BIG question is would you prefer that everyone has a same (equal) conditions on our servers for those very very few people that cannot run a game in 32bit video mode?

Ed · « **Reply #10 on:** May 02, 2012, 08:33:30 am »

As how much I would like the game fair and equal, I must agree with Deniz, no one really want's to do any tests. We are free for all community join and play. If I coming home from work wanting to play some dd2 I would be annoyed by this test specially every single time. Also a lot of pc's who run on 16 bit doesn't see any difference, there are very few who can see through the smoke. You know, maybe just remove smoke? I am lagging with smoke, lets remove it? See I am minority and best is to leave this in the dust.

`Botlike ? · « **Reply #11 on:** May 02, 2012, 09:20:46 am »

Integrated graphic cards work with better performance @ 16bits .

That with the smokes is kinda false , only when the smokes are set on "fast - low quality" you can see smth , and if there are more then one smokes on the ground u don't see thru them like @ 32bit .

So , this whole thing is not very important in my opinion .

This is a little bit like with the ex_interp thing .

Better watch for them wallhackers and aimboters .

Ezzα · « **Reply #12 on:** May 02, 2012, 09:32:04 am »

I was kicked from a german server yesterday due to this plugin. I didnt quite understand what it wanted since i could see all the pictures clearly so i pressed some random numbers which resulted in me being kicked LOL

tαshαღ · « **Reply #13 on:** May 02, 2012, 09:43:45 am »

16bits are CHEATERS. but when i had my laptop and bad fps, having 16bit to 32 bit helped me dramatically in terms of lagging. with 32 bit and 20fps, your screen will basically freeze and fps will drop to 2-5. with 16bit and 20fps nothing will happen and you can just stroll through it. now i have a great PC which is basically like a FBI PC cos its so sick and powerful i'd love to have this plugin. to all you 16bitters - http://www.sk-gaming.com/group/3339

it really does give you a MAJOR advantage though for smokes. i used to enjoy dropping a smoke down on 16bit purely so i could bash people through it and they couldn't see me at all. if you use 16bit in a league or ESL or tournament, it's a guarenteed default loss for your team because of the advantage it gives you. that being said you can tailor your graphics card to have the same effect as 16bit while being on 32bit so it will never be fully clean

spekbinder · « **Reply #14 on:** May 02, 2012, 09:50:06 am »

Quote from: EzzÎ±áƒ¦ on May 02, 2012, 09:32:04 am

I was kicked from a german server yesterday due to this plugin. I didnt quite understand what it wanted since i could see all the pictures clearly so i pressed some random numbers which resulted in me being kicked LOL

Then you play 16 bit too ;-)

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But seriously why don't u you guys just all set it on 16bit then? Is does not matter that much, with 2 smokes or more you can't see shit anyway.

I play 16 bit since I was born and I will keep it.. 640x480 on 16bit is just the best. And it's something that you can change with your mouse in the options, that should not be illegal. In my opninion everything you can change ingame should not be illegal.

Besides, I can assure you that over 50% of all top15 players use the smoke.spr so a smoke grenade will look like a fart. If you continue using this plugin I bet the number will only increase..

No support!

Ezzα · « **Reply #15 on:** May 02, 2012, 09:52:27 am »

No idea that im playing on 16bit. I didnt quite understand the task so i pressed the buttons randomly and got kicked. Im pretty sure im on 32bit though

tαshαღ · « **Reply #16 on:** May 02, 2012, 10:12:39 am »

spekbinder 0% of pro players will use sprites because every single anti cheat in the world will pick it up. in a tournament site i previously adminned having that would get you an instant perm ban from the site for cheating. smoke sprites are dealt with the same way as wallhack in leagues and tournaments

'PL' · « **Reply #17 on:** May 02, 2012, 10:22:41 am »

If this was esl i would agree
But when is not when you have like non-steamers, and wooden pc users...
Like me, im not using 16bit mode, but is rly laggy when you have like 200 guys in semiclip on me
So in cases when you have more guys i will be using 16 bit...
No support

uNi stulda · « **Reply #18 on:** May 02, 2012, 10:33:56 am »

I guess I will have to agree with you guys. It was worth discussing though. This is not ESL and as you stated I can always change it to 16bit...

Are we done here?

spekbinder · « **Reply #19 on:** May 02, 2012, 10:51:46 am »

Quote from: tÎ±shÎ±áƒ¦ on May 02, 2012, 10:12:39 am

spekbinder 0% of pro players will use sprites because every single anti cheat in the world will pick it up. in a tournament site i previously adminned having that would get you an instant perm ban from the site for cheating. smoke sprites are dealt with the same way as wallhack in leagues and tournaments

im not talking about pro's/lans/esl but about the top15 of d2 server