[DENIED]Unban request

[tαshαღ]

Name: tasha
reason: racism?!?!
date and time: 03/04/2012
server: all

Here's the thing shark, if i said "F**** MOROCCO" then call me racist but I didn't.  people on the forum before have said things to me like "british retard" "british *****" and have i ever seen ANY of them warned? No... People say that to me EVERY single day and i've never once considered it racist and nor has anyone else.

"f*** the british" racist? kind of
"british s***" - racist? not by your standards.
Infact, roni didn't post the demo until after talking to ezio. If he found it SO racist and SO offensive why didn't he post it before? Oh wait, cos he wasn't offended by it, not was a single person on the server, nor did anyone who actually bothered to watch the demo and immediately said i WASNT racist.

To be honest this is clear to an english person the difference, i didn't insult a whole country. If you want to ban every single person who calls someone by their home country i'm afraid you'll be banning A LOT of people since we are all friends and we joke around.

And shark, if this is a two week ban, why when i give you TWO ss's of the same person saying N******s who was an admin you didn't even ban for 1 hour? Inconsistent stand on racism when n*****s is obviously a lot worse... lol

I don't think this is really a racism issue, if it was then goodmood would have been upset but he didn't take it as racism and neither did the english people who posted. And to be honest, they twisted my words for a very long time and said i said at first "**** morocco" when i never said that but they tried to make out what i said was a lot worse.

Saying people would be offended - well guess what shark, it's jailbreak, people say that every single day. If you watched the demo and see people talking about my breasts, talking about raping, you think that doesn't offend people more than what i said? i get a lot more offended by that because it's personal rather than someone calling me a british girl or whatever.. but i don't see them people ever getting a 2 week ban let alone a 2 hour ban.

[tαshαღ]

Btw shark i'm offended at EVERY person who says they will rape me. I expect two week bans for them since I've spent so long being upset about that.

[John_Yassin_MaXWell <3]

So Why Did u Say F**** Morroco ?
For even laugh, the person could take it well, but you must know it is not the only Moroccan who Plays on Job,
and this can be very offensive to others Moroccan,
Including Me (Although I 'm Algerian, one could imagine that you hate foreigners) ...

[tαshαღ]

I didn't say that..............

[SharkX69]

Dont put yourself into more trouble accept your punishment and stop complaining.
We have rules around here and i dont know why jb should be off these rules when all the other servers obbey to them.
Flaming is strickly forbidden same as racism and many other things that its written in rules.
Learn to play the game without insulting others even if its for fun cause you never know who is listening or reading what you say on mic or what you type in chat and how he will take it. Others might laugh others might feel offended so to avoid the worse rules are clearly on these things.

Locked. You will be unbanned after 2 weeks.

[Ezzα]

I guess what Tasha is trying to say is the obvious. In the demo there were people making sexual remarks about her but not one single person picked up on this and in some sense its like a witch hunt. In my opinion this ban should have never happened since the meaning is down to cultural differences. If you actually look up in wikipedia the words "Fag" and "Paki" you will clearly be able to see which word is indeed racist.

I would also like to highlight that should this ban remain i would be handing a 2 week ban for "Ezio" on forum for racism  and 2 week ban for Dupont for ghosting. Regardless of whether he apologised or not, as a previous admin it was clear that ghosting was taking place and with evidence in hand which we have punishment should be dealt with. If old School was banned then why shouldnt dupont? After all it takes 2 to tango

[SharkX69]

Eric why you making like you dont understand?
Fag isnt racist but thats not what she said. Kill that morroco fag it is so why we keep discussing about this?
Many people were insulted and annoyed by this and she got what she deserved.
About someothers in demo that flamed her as you said and noone is talking about this then maybe i should consider again about her calling terrorists motherf@ckers? She isnt victim she is guilty as some others in this demo but she cross the line a bit more with that morroco fag.
Mentioning about what happened with oldschool and dupont is not something to discuss on this topic as it was already resolved and i dont know why you bringing it back.

[Ezzα]

Shark, i do understand your point but this is clearly a disagreement. Yes i would class morocco fag as flaming rather than insult and as explained this is down to the cultural view on how you interpret the words. I spoke to a few high staff who agreed 50/50 on this situation, some thought the first word was worse and vice versa. So despite the ban i have said its unfair but i never said its a unban. Although you say the Old school issue was resolved it clearly isnt, how is it possible that 2 players ghost yet one is banned and the other isnt just because he apologised? If this is the case then why is old school still banned. There has to be some consistency somewhere and at the moment i dont see any of this.

To be honest im quite sick and tired of this childish remarks from all players on the community. There appears to be no forgive and forget here!!! Just yesterday Altamos contacted me on steam to apologise for the way he acted back then and my response was "no point living in the past, i forgotten about it already. Welcome back" Too many players here dwell on the past and wont forgive and forget, shame really.

[Ezzα]

Message from Tasha requested to be posted:

Here's the one thing that I don't understand Shark. When people make sexual remarks to me you ignore it, that can be offensive to MANY people who also don't engage in the activities due to religion. I get atleast 5 comments a day when I'm playing jailbreak like "b**** i'll f*** your p***y".

And Shark, when I come to you for help about those sexual remarks you have NEVER helped me. Not once. NEVER. If i come to you with a complaint about people doing that to me, you incite that i'm a girl on the internet and I should expect that behaviour. Guess what Shark, I don't like that behaviour, I've openly admitted numerous times I hate it when people say that to me and yet it's still allowed more often than not because frankly when i'm on jailbreak using my mic it's inevitably it's going to happen. I'm always going to get those comments and yet you brush those comments under the carpet and act as if it's ok because its ME they're saying it to. If you can't understand that what I said to goodmood was a joke betwen FRIENDS whereas the people saying "RAPE THAT WH**E" are unknown to me so it's a lot worse then I think there's a big problem here.

I've shown you so many screenshots of people doing that to me and if you check JB logs of a random day when i'm on i'm sure you will see a number of people who could be banned for that kind of thing.

When I came to you in the past of an admin saying "N*GG*Rs" TWO times you didn't ban or suspend or demote. You did nothing. You ignored the situation. He didn't do that to his friend in the same way i did. Here's what i'm asking for, if you want to ban me for TWO weeks for what I said, then ban the others who make sexual remarks to me because in my eyes that's just as bad. Racism and sexism is virtually the same same with homophobia. You can sit and say I offended many but where are they in the demo Shark? Where are the people asking for me to be banned? there are three admins on at the time and all of who are friends with goodmood, if they thought for a second I was upsetting him then they would of banned me. Why is the topic there saying we can say "motherf***ers" to our friends but not to others when you just basically said you can't say anything to your friends in the small chance someone else gets offended?

[tαshαღ]

Here's two screenshots you've ignored before shark. Exactly the same situation BTW yet you didn't solve this so quickly..

http://cloud.steampo...B138CE94B40102/ "better than some irish cu** like you" (not friends, obviously a direct insult. if i got a 2 week ban for saying it to a friend i expect a 3 week ban for this for consistency terms!)
http://cloud.steampo...847DEFEFEC11F7/ "kill him, hes from marocco" "better than some maroccan sh** like you".


where's the consistency shark? if you want to ban me two weeks for saying it to friends then why are these people not banned for even 5 minutes when they are doing it in order to cause OFFENCE rather than a joke? i'm just curious..

[SharkX69]

Tasha stop sending me ss on steam from random people cause now suddenly you want them banned after you got punished. That a person you are.
If you want those guys who insulted you to be banned then maybe i should add more days to your ban since you flamed as well in this demo.
Eric stop posting messages from her pls the spamming on my steam from her its enough theres no need in forum as well.
Accept your punishment and dont try to drag others with you.
Ezio was moderated for the word he said so everyone got what thety deserved.

More complaints and spam will lead to extend of your punishment.

[Arne]

According to shark; ban will expire on 17-4-2012.

Arne

[Arne]

DENIED