[DD2 ONLY] CS 1.6 Admin Application - [Kay | JLz]

[Kay]

Just because some whom you call "toxic" people who usually troll and make jokes do not support you, it doesn't mean they're wrong. They might be right in some of what they said.
Kay, your case is pretty controversial. You did lots of bad things in the past that you can't deny it... You changed your name and left for sometime thinking that people will forget, and everything will just be normal. But even tho some scars have been healed they still left some marks.
Alright, I won't deny you had some interest in jailbreak and the management needed and still needs admins you've earned your admin rights fairly.


But just after 3 hours of playing dust2 and 47 kills which can be done in less than one hour. It doesn't just question your power hunger, it also questions your skills in the game itself.
Just for the reason stated in the sentence above, No support.

What are those bad things you talking about ? please give me proofs ? You dont even play dd2 and posting like seriously
And about powerhunger or whatever : I was told by the SM @YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY to apply in dd2 and i promised him that i will be active in the server and all,you know also that the server need more admins , and if you have a problem with that then go discuss it with him? come on?
And i accept everyone's opinion .

[dave`]

What are those bad things you talking about ?

really you forgot about those scam stuff?
don't wanna bring it up tho but you know

he doesn't play dust2... hmm
i have 4.12 hours
rank 3079 if you wanna check
you're saying im spamming
my name was cockgobbler for 3 hours in game
then my name was dave` for 4 hours in game
i'm considered to play dust2 so i know the shits what you do rioght?


and crimemiz played over 22 hours
358   CrimeMiz       1230   22.08   0.93
3261   CrimeMiz | JLz       123   2.83   0.72

playing for 3 hours and "you dont know since you dont play dust2" sure

[YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY]

Cut off the arguments now. You guys are only allowed to give your opinions on whether you support or don't support this application, along with a "valid" and a "relevant" reason for your decision. (kindly) I don't want to see anymore comments about jailbreak, or what he did in the past; If you want to discuss these stuff further, then go and make a separate topic about it in "Drama" section, not here though. This is DD2 "Only".
@Kay you are not asked to defend yourself here. People are free to post their opinions about you, as long as they are relevant. If you see any irrelevant comment, there is always "report to moderator" button which you can click on.
About whether he fits to become an admin or not, this is up to me and Silver to decide. We know who to accept and who to deny. We don't just go on accepting applicants randomly, so you don't have to worry about it. In case he got accepted but he failed to meet what we we're waiting from him, we will always be there to deal with it.

[CrimeMiz]

What are those bad things you talking about ? please give me proofs ? You dont even play dd2 and posting like seriously
And about powerhunger or whatever : I was told by the SM @YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY to apply in dd2 and i promised him that i will be active in the server and all,you know also that the server need more admins , and if you have a problem with that then go discuss it with him? come on?
And i accept everyone's opinion .

Ok bro you got me I'm lying and people hate you for no reason 
Nope I will say No support here not to CITY or anyone else. I don't speak behind peoples back much. If he asked you to join the admin team what took him too long to accept you? I think he wants peoples opinions and if you accept opinions why ask me to discuss with CITY?
Anyways I do approve I don't play regularly in dd2, yet I can assure you I got more hours than you there...

[Hajrulla]

I feel like if I no support you you'll get accepted but imo we don't need JB admins to be DD2 admins too. Lets give those places to somebody else, with experience on dd2 not some powerhungry guys.But good luck, NAH support

[GandElf The Gay]

Cut off the arguments now. You guys are only allowed to give your opinions on whether you support or don't support this application, along with a "valid" and a "relevant" reason for your decision. I don't want to see anymore comments about jailbreak, or what he did in the past; If you want to discuss these stuff further, then go and make a separate topic about it in "Drama" section, not here though. This is DD2 "Only".
@Kay you are not asked to defend yourself here. People are free to post their opinions about you, as long as they are relevant. If you see any irrelevant comment, there is always "report to moderator" button which you can click on.
About whether he fits to become an admin or not, this is up to me and Silver to decide. We know who accept and who to deny. We don't just go on accepting applicants randomly, so you don't have to worry about it. In case he got accepted but he failed to meet what we were waiting from him, we will always be there to deal with it.

some of the guys presented valid arguments and he should defend himself against those
may I ask why jailbreak doesn't matter?
and it's a community not your's not silver's dictatorship, opinions matter

what image do you think you portray by accepting someone with 3 hrs of game-play?
i can get you tons of rejected applicants who did more

[YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY]

some of the guys presented valid arguments and he should defend himself against those

You are allowed to give your opinion as long as it is relevant to what he is applying for. Despite few replies being relevant(and I'm not saying anything about those), others were provocative, showing personal issues with the applicant or off-topic. This is not the right place to settle those stuff.

may I ask why jailbreak doesn't matter?

Simply because this is DD2, and Jailbreak has nothing to do with it.

and it's a community not your's not silver's dictatorship, opinions matter

As I said, opinions are welcome and will be taken into consideration as long as they are not provocative/personal/off-topic. Nowhere I've said that your opinions don't matter.

what image do you think you portray by accepting someone with 3 hrs of game-play?
i can get you tons of rejected applicants who did more

As you can see, we didn't accept the application yet. Did you ask yourself why? It's because we give chance to the applicant to show activity on the server, and we keep a close eye on him during this period to make sure he meets the requirements we are looking for; If he didn't meet them, his application will be rejected. If he did, he will be accepted (as simple as that). If however his attitude and activity changed after becoming an admin, we are there to deal with him.

[Pringles]

You are allowed to give your opinion as long as it is relevant to what he is applying for. Despite few replies being relevant(and I'm not saying anything about those), others were provocative, showing personal issues with the applicant or off-topic. This is not the right place to settle those stuff.

Not really, people are allowed to give their opinion whether it is relevant or not. Don't say anything that you are not even sure of please. There is no support rule so people are allowed to say whatever they want about the application even if their post is not justified. It's up to you whether you want to take our opinion into consideration or not. It's your administration team and if you want to have a guy like @Kay in it then it's your choice, not ours but we are simply trying to let you know that if we were in your place, we wouldn't accept him.

There are provocative replies but if the applicant was really motivated into getting an adminship, he would have defended himself in a better way. There is no reply showing personal issues to be honest. All replies are justified (including mine).

Support for Kay ,
he is mature , good guy , friendly and can handle it  ,, just be more active
G.L

=> Typical spam post that is often made to support a friend or just to increase the posts amount.

Don't you worry, Kay about these guys who are glad to see the back of someone and bite off more than they can chew.

But, let's get back to the topic.
I will support your candidacy because I believe you can make the server peaceful and strict at the same time.
You have no communication issues which is a big plus.

But, you need to improve your game play.

Good luck.

=> This is a good post. The poster made his point and did his best to justify his opinion.
Even though, it's wrong in so many levels. Firstly, @Kay has no common sense, no offense, so I don't understand how you can say that he will make the server peaceful. No communication issues ? Are you kidding me ? He can't even express or defend himself properly in his own application topic.

Just because some whom you call "toxic" people who usually troll and make jokes do not support you, it doesn't mean they're wrong. They might be right in some of what they said.
Kay, your case is pretty controversial. You did lots of bad things in the past that you can't deny it... You changed your name and left for sometime thinking that people will forget, and everything will just be normal. But even tho some scars have been healed they still left some marks.
Alright, I won't deny you had some interest in jailbreak and the management needed and still needs admins you've earned your admin rights fairly.


But just after 3 hours of playing dust2 and 47 kills which can be done in less than one hour. It doesn't just question your power hunger, it also questions your skills in the game itself.
Just for the reason stated in the sentence above, No support.

=> This is also a very good post. The poster made his point and justified his opinion.
I completely agree with his opinion. It's not because some people provoked you that it automatically means that their opinions are biased or irrelevant. There is a reason that pushed them to post in this application topic and you should be asking yourself why.
Yes he did a lot of bad things in the past and I'm aware of that. But the worst of it is that he still believes that he failed his trial period just because I apparently "hate him" (only people with no common sense would believe that) while it is not the case at all. The only reason why he failed his trial period was because he showed that he had 0 common sense and that pushed me to remove his rights straight away. Also @Kay if you want to keep playing this game then feel free to do so but at least, I'm not doing this behind your back.

[info][/info]

.As you can see, we didn't accept the application yet. Did you ask yourself why? It's because we give chance to the applicant to show activity on the server, and we keep a close eye on him during this period to make sure he meets the requirements we are looking for; If he didn't meet them, his application will be rejected. If he did, he will be accepted (as simple as that). If however his attitude and activity changed after becoming an admin, we are there to deal with him.

Sorry but I have to disagree with you on this one. Once you take the decision to apply for an adminship, it means that you consider yourself ready to administrate the server. One shouldn't take this decision lightly.

In this case, in addition to the fact that the applicant shouldn't be accepted for the reasons stated above, he has still rushed to apply. He hasn't shown any motivation nor any dedication to the server (not active at all). All he wants are admin rights and he couldn't care less about the server since he has only played 3 hours on it. As long as he has power whenever he has the time to join it, it's fine.

I'm probably pushing this too far but I simply wanted to give my opinion regarding the situation since my post wasn't clear enough according to some people and since @Kay himself sent me a PM to provide a valid reason to it.

Cheers.

[Ninja Assassin]

Not really, people are allowed to give their opinion whether it is relevant or not. Don't say anything that you are not even sure of please. There is no support rule so people are allowed to say whatever they want about the application even if their post is not justified. It's up to you whether you want to take our opinion into consideration or not. It's your administration team and if you want to have a guy like @Kay in it then it's your choice, not ours but we are simply trying to let you know that if we were in your place, we wouldn't accept him.

There are provocative replies but if the applicant was really motivated into getting an adminship, he would have defended himself in a better way. There is no reply showing personal issues to be honest. All replies are justified (including mine).
=> Typical spam post that is often made to support a friend or just to increase the posts amount.
=> This is a good post. The poster made his point and did his best to justify his opinion.
Even though, it's wrong in so many levels. Firstly, @Kay has no common sense, no offense, so I don't understand how you can say that he will make the server peaceful. No communication issues ? Are you kidding me ? He can't even express or defend himself properly in his own application topic.
=> This is also a very good post. The poster made his point and justified his opinion.
I completely agree with his opinion. It's not because some people provoked you that it automatically means that their opinions are biased or irrelevant. There is a reason that pushed them to post in this application topic and you should be asking yourself why.
Yes he did a lot of bad things in the past and I'm aware of that. But the worst of it is that he still believes that he failed his trial period just because I apparently "hate him" (only people with no common sense would believe that) while it is not the case at all. The only reason why he failed his trial period was because he showed that he had 0 common sense and that pushed me to remove his rights straight away. Also @Kay if you want to keep playing this game then feel free to do so but at least, I'm not doing this behind your back.

[info][/info]
Sorry but I have to disagree with you on this one. Once you take the decision to apply for an adminship, it means that you consider yourself ready to administrate the server. One shouldn't take this decision lightly.

In this case, in addition to the fact that the applicant shouldn't be accepted for the reasons stated above, he has still rushed to apply. He hasn't shown any motivation nor any dedication to the server (not active at all). All he wants are admin rights and he couldn't care less about the server since he has only played 3 hours on it. As long as he has power whenever he has the time to join it, it's fine.

I'm probably pushing this too far but I simply wanted to give my opinion regarding the situation since my post wasn't clear enough according to some people and since @Kay himself sent me a PM to provide a valid reason to it.

Cheers.

Hello there. What you said is true. BUT u just forgot a little detail. Some people are just saying no support because he was accused of "hacking" ambrosia. I may not know the truth but what i know is if he tried im sure the owners would have banned him.
What you got wrong as well is this:
- kay has good communication skills. If he dont wanna answer all the posts on his app is for not creating drama.
- the server manager according to what kay said told him to apply because server needs admins.

Nevertheless i know kay for a long time. Maybe he is powerhunger maybe not. No one knows whats inside him. But all i know is that if he got his admin rights... He will do his job to the fullest. Thats what he always did.( since i know him). Even if in the PAST he made some mistakes or whatever u call it, i believe you shouldnt make your judgements on the past. Its not like he will ban everyone from the server. All im saying is even if he is powerhungry he would still do a good job on the field.
Peace.

[YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY]

With all due respect @Pringles, I'm pretty sure of what I'm saying. Despite no written rule stating that, but when giving your opinion about a person on his admin application, your post should be relevant to the topic. This is not the right place to provoke, nor to sort out personal issues.
I do agree with you though, that when someone takes the decision to apply for an adminship, he should be ready for it. However, I don't see any problem in being patient, and keeping an eye on the applicant to check whether he is showing activity and effort (calling admins/reporting cheaters etc.) during this period. IF he got accepted based on what I just said but he failed to be consistent, we are always there to deal with that; But as I said, we didn't take any decision about this application yet, and I assure you that all the "valid" comments will be taken into consideration along with what Silver and I think about this player without any kind of bias.

[GandElf The Gay]

Hello there. What you said is true. BUT u just forgot a little detail. Some people are just saying no support because he was accused of "hacking" ambrosia. I may not know the truth but what i know is if he tried im sure the owners would have banned him.
What you got wrong as well is this:
- kay has good communication skills. If he dont wanna answer all the posts on his app is for not creating drama.
- the server manager according to what kay said told him to apply because server needs admins.

Nevertheless i know kay for a long time. Maybe he is powerhunger maybe not. No one knows whats inside him. But all i know is that if he got his admin rights... He will do his job to the fullest. Thats what he always did.( since i know him). Even if in the PAST he made some mistakes or whatever u call it, i believe you shouldnt make your judgements on the past. Its not like he will ban everyone from the server. All im saying is even if he is powerhungry he would still do a good job on the field.
Peace.

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Idk how you got admin on jb, but if i were you, i wouldn't have the guts to apply for dd2 adminship after all you did.
you don't even play in the server, guess jb isnt enough to feed your powerhunger.
no support.

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any other nick names, idk who you are

not gonna lie before you were jb admin and after you got denied for it the first time
for that time being you went silent and we were having fun but after you got accepted you went back to who you were
can't take jokes,sarcasm can't even listen to people properly
you say im joking when im posting topics but when i just randomly said some shit about ali killing me in jb, i wasn't  even crying about your help or some shit , you took that shit serious and telling me to stop complaining
btw stay one person,not a different person to get accepted for admin

gl anyway

Just because some whom you call "toxic" people who usually troll and make jokes do not support you, it doesn't mean they're wrong. They might be right in some of what they said.
Kay, your case is pretty controversial. You did lots of bad things in the past that you can't deny it... You changed your name and left for sometime thinking that people will forget, and everything will just be normal. But even tho some scars have been healed they still left some marks.
Alright, I won't deny you had some interest in jailbreak and the management needed and still needs admins you've earned your admin rights fairly.


But just after 3 hours of playing dust2 and 47 kills which can be done in less than one hour. It doesn't just question your power hunger, it also questions your skills in the game itself.
Just for the reason stated in the sentence above, No support.

I feel like if I no support you you'll get accepted but imo we don't need JB admins to be DD2 admins too. Lets give those places to somebody else, with experience on dd2 not some powerhungry guys.But good luck, NAH support

- I'm still trying to figure out which one of these ^ said no support because he was supposedly involved in scamming
- Good communications skills? Can't put up a better point than Pringles'. Can't communicate on his own app.
   All he can do is talk behind people's back and send trash talking PMs . You want to go down that lane Kay?
- You know him for a long time? I also remember him since before I even joined the forums, when he used to play JB as Tony | JLz
- Can I also add that he lacks decent in-game skills too.

What do you guys think? that people just go against someone for no reason?

[Pringles]

Cut off the arguments now. You guys are only allowed to give your opinions on whether you support or don't support this application, along with a "valid" and a "relevant" reason for your decision. (kindly) I don't want to see anymore comments about jailbreak, or what he did in the past; If you want to discuss these stuff further, then go and make a separate topic about it in "Drama" section, not here though. This is DD2 "Only".
@Kay you are not asked to defend yourself here. People are free to post their opinions about you, as long as they are relevant. If you see any irrelevant comment, there is always "report to moderator" button which you can click on.
About whether he fits to become an admin or not, this is up to me and Silver to decide. We know who to accept and who to deny. We don't just go on accepting applicants randomly, so you don't have to worry about it. In case he got accepted but he failed to meet what we we're waiting from him, we will always be there to deal with it.

With all due respect @Pringles, I'm pretty sure of what I'm saying. Despite no written rule stating that, but when giving your opinion about a person on his admin application, your post should be relevant to the topic. This is not the right place to provoke, nor to sort out personal issues.

Where did you get this from ? I'd just like to keep you in mind that I have been moderating this forum since Ambrosia was taken over and I was told by @Ed himself what to do. As far as I know, you are not a moderator so you don't really have the right to tell people what they should post and what they shouldn't.

People have the right to give their opinion about the applicant whether it's justified or not so it doesn't matter if their opinions are about what the applicant has done in the past or what he is currently doing in an other server for example and it doesn't matter if their opinions are provocative, people try to make a point so it doesn't matter what way they use to do it. As long as they abide to the Terms & Conditions and don't push it too far, it's fine.

[Andrew`]

Just wanted to point out that powerhungry or not, scammer or not, he is allowed by the owners and managers to apply, and he's already an admin as well, so those are kinda out of question. Activity and behavior yes, but some arguements are not really relevant, many are though, not gonna lie.

Secondly, he has every right to be criticised and defend himself as well, as long as it doesn't lead to an endless drama. Keep in mind @Kay, that even now you're being tested, I suppose you know that, so try to respect all opinions either if they're right or wrong.

Last but not least, whether he's fit for DD2 or not - opinions always count, the members are the eyes of the server - the decision is always up to the SMs, whether fair or not, because even if he wasn't as active as needed but he has experience and admins are currently needed, they should still try get as many hands as possible, even if some other qualified applicants didn't get accepted before simply because we had enough admins or the SMs found them unqualified. Let us not forget how necessary some admin additions are, lately. I do agree though that this app is quite premature, and a not-so-very-good example of an admin, applying.

I am not taking sides, just pointing out some things. Let's calm down, I see the same posts twice a day

Regards.

[dAmss.MSI]

Wait what? So now jb players arent allowed to apply for dd2? Why lol I'm feeling like there is a wall between JB and dd2 and you can't cross one side without destroying a part. Anyway Half support, for the simple reason that your experiance on dd2 isnt that that great.. I havent seen you in the server much, therefor you cant say there are no admins or the regular speech of the appliers..
The other half is that you're funny and cool, can make the server pleasant.
 I'd suggest the staff to lock this and let him the time to be more active as we didnt seen him very much.
PS: Just a hint, defend yourself with solid arguments, if you see a retarded comment, just ignore it.

[Ed]

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any other nick names, idk who you are

Since this was posted on 1st of may and we are in 7th of may now. The gametracker shows:



Yet you say:

How much time can you be online:     4/5 Hours per day 

IT has only increased for another 3 hours within a week. Bit a of a miss on what you said and what actually is.

[silex™]

I think he can handle the server, he is experienced enough, Support, @Kay my advice to you is get out of trouble.
Goodluck.

[Kay]

Since this was posted on 1st of may and we are in 7th of may now. The gametracker shows:

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Yet you say:
IT has only increased for another 3 hours within a week. Bit a of a miss on what you said and what actually is.

About the first screenshot yep that's my gametracker link but i think you forgot that when i left JLz I changed my name to Kay only without JLz tag ,
and yes i metioned that i will be able to play 4/5 hours per day but im sorry i've had family problems lately so i couldn't play 4/5 hrs per day but it doesnt mean that i didnt play since i applied but i was less active than the time i mentioned , and from now on i will be active , so no worries about my activity
Im sorry for inactivity even if it wasn't full inactivity but i consider it as inactivity

[Frank]

Holy crap is this a fucking shitstorm! 

The activity issue alone proves that you should not be accepted. Moreover, it really indicates your motive here. Adminship to you is just an another career path. People become admins because they see a problem in the server and they want to solve them. You have barely even been on the server, so what kind of problems to you aspire to solve?! This really shows that you don't want to make the server "peaceful", you just want the bloody rights.

Not only should you in no way get accepted, i think your JB rights should be revoked as well since you've shown your colours here.

Edit: Considering your skills i dont think you can even differentiate between a hacker and a clean player tbh..

[Koray]

Holy crap is this a fucking shitstorm! 

The activity issue alone proves that you should not be accepted. Moreover, it really indicates your motive here. Adminship to you is just an another career path. People become admins because they see a problem in the server and they want to solve them. You have barely even been on the server, so what kind of problems to you aspire to solve?! This really shows that you don't want to make the server "peaceful", you just want the bloody rights.

Not only should you in no way get accepted, i think your JB rights should be revoked as well since you've shown your colours here.

Edit: Considering your skills i dont think you can even differentiate between a hacker and a clean player tbh..

I fucking love how objective you are lol

[X-KilleR]

mature, good communication and already an admin,  and dd2 needs more admins
good luck with your app (especially now after i replied ,some will not like that i supported you    )