Unban Request - Mommo05 - by admin Ryannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn - Dust2 Only

[Ryan~]

A great Question?? When I get Unban?!
 

be patient, you're not the one who'll decide.. lying will not lead you anywhere and you should tell the truth.. picking up random pictures from google and teaching us that what is recoil.. pretty innocent and try to avoid double post/not to spam.

[Mommo05]

be patient, you're not the one who'll decide.. lying will not lead you anywhere and you should tell the truth.. picking up random pictures from google and teaching us that what is recoil.. pretty innocent and try to avoid double post/not to spam.

Ryhan not seek the consent of the other .... you only have I shown you what is the noRecoil ... because I replied to your post .... trying to be humble ... nobody is perfect ... and if by mistake you have misjudged my game ... do not worry .. I repeat, not repeat it more (it will indeed be my last post in this thread): at first I thought of being guilty ... but then when I came to account of having nothing (because in fact I had nothing, but I thought I have the NOrecoil) ... I asked because I'm ban?!? in this thread I tried to make you understand only one thing ... where did you see that I cheated? where? I wonder ... because if you acted like you were prejudiced .... I feel I give you some advice being older than you ... the activity seeks to be more humble and admit mistakes. I I was wrong regardless ... but you're wrong ... you were more prejudiced against me ... and do not you admit it ... the rest of my post was directed to you not to you .... I do not I teach anything ... but I do not come and say that I had the Norecoil ... the evidence did you ... I'm sorry but I am one who loves the right ... when I was sure it was wrong and I apologized ... I still say "sorry" ... but you ban me .... and no one knows what ?! NO Recoil? boh.

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[Andrew`]

Ok, I would like to post my opinion and please read it carefully. I will briefly explain the kills that made you guys suspicious:

First kill, from pit to A site, simply look at the dead guy and where the defendants aim is after shooting:

I would never call this kill suspicious.

Second kill, the classic "spray n pray" tactic, the guy is 30cm away so it would be unacceptable not to kill him.


Now, let's look at the spraying pattern:

Looks typical to me.

Last kill, the one in B site. Again, look at the spray:


All I can see here is the guy spraying from small distances to get kills except for that 1 kill in A site. I understand that the last kill looked a little suspicious, but it just needs better examination, the evidence is not enough to convict him. I could do better tbh, you can easily control your spray without having any no-recoil software, all it requires is some specific mouse movement, I hope I don't get banned for that too.
I find it a little disturbing that the last months we(all admins) have been seeing ghosts and banning everyone for nonsense reasons. Just look closely at the unbanned requests:

A total of 14 unbans in less than 1 month, and most of them are for wrong cheating bans. We should be more careful with bans and not just try to show we're banning people, many admins don't even seem to care about the server, just coming and banning and leaving. This is not really about Ryan or element, this is a general message. People wait days, or even weeks for a wrong ban, well, there's the reason why we're losing players, we're banning them.

For me, the evidence is not enough for this guy to be convicted.
Regards.

[Hajrulla]

Just to explain myself Andrew, I support unban for this guy. First, you didn't lose a player in this case I somehow  invited him over here.
Second, I didn't cause most of the bans that you are directing me to. Only Sonam's and the situation was he delayed 3 months or so.
Third, yes maybe the evidence in-demo is not enough. But outside of it, it is. If he agrees that he won't try any type of cheats and he'll play legally I am saying that he should be unbanned.
Fourth, if he would be so experienced into controlling "recoil" he'd not try any type of cheats and he'd play using his skills. So that's not valid either, but in this case you are 50% right. We should beware of what we do inside the server because it affects the whole community.
Let the judge decide now, I wish y'all good luck.

[Ryan~]

Just to explain myself Andrew, I support unban for this guy. First, you didn't lose a player in this case I somehow  invited him over here.
Second, I didn't cause most of the bans that you are directing me to. Only Sonam's and the situation was he delayed 3 months or so.
Third, yes maybe the evidence in-demo is not enough. But outside of it, it is. If he agrees that he won't try any type of cheats and he'll play legally I am saying that he should be unbanned.
Fourth, if he would be so experienced into controlling "recoil" he'd not try any type of cheats and he'd play using his skills. So that's not valid either, but in this case you are 50% right. We should beware of what we do inside the server because it affects the whole community.
Let the judge decide now, I wish y'all good luck.

I think @Andrew~  is right, we should be careful about bans and try not to report incorrect/wrong it'll just create confusion or dubiousness for adminstrators and admin will just straight ban and  even though that guy was suspcious for me too so I banned him.. he also accepted that he was using scripts even you can check shoutbox log.. my opinion is just that Adminstrators should maintain their descipline and attitude and not to troll around which effects the nature, honestly it'll just distract other players so maintain the descipline in server and fulfill with adminship. thanks

[Andrew`]

Is there any evidence that he admitted cheating in shoutbox?

[Ryan~]

Is there any evidence that he admitted cheating in shoutbox?

obv bro he did and he blamed element, he was saying that element gave him scripts link so he downloaded from there it was aim.cfg I think.. if that guy is so innocent so he should be unbanned Ik that he used scripts but still.

[Mommo05]

All I can see here is the guy spraying from small distances to get kills except for that 1 kill in A site. I understand that the last kill looked a little suspicious, but it just needs better examination, the evidence is not enough to convict him. I could do better tbh, you can easily control your spray without having any no-recoil software, all it requires is some specific mouse movement, I hope I don't get banned for that too.
I find it a little disturbing that the last months we(all admins) have been seeing ghosts and banning everyone for nonsense reasons. Just look closely at the unbanned requests:
A total of 14 unbans in less than 1 month, and most of them are for wrong cheating bans. We should be more careful with bans and not just try to show we're banning people, many admins don't even seem to care about the server, just coming and banning and leaving. This is not really about Ryan or element, this is a general message. People wait days, or even weeks for a wrong ban, well, there's the reason why we're losing players, we're banning them.

For me, the evidence is not enough for this guy to be convicted.
Regards.

Andrew I changed my mind on this community immediately after reading your post ... I was getting worried for the whole community ... that is today my tread had about 320 views .... only one has noticed the innocence ... I laugh till your post all and I mean everyone (not yet know all the roles) have seen the NORECOIL, AIM, ETC ETC in Demo ... Ryann was safe and called evidence ... I wonder up to today it plays ... the proof ... unfortunately demo I made public in a community I work with ... I do not want you to say the comments received .... Thanks Andrew ... you saved My judgment of the entire community.

@Intrepid~RyANNNNN. ♫ Rihan insist on continuing to say that I was using a script ... I admitted, and I told the whole truth ... I apologize ... but I did not accept that two admin in a community so large trolling and I do not pay, I admitted more ... I may have said too much truth ... Rihan you wanted to play the part of the right and the know-it-up from the beginning ... you have banned just because you said so element ... stop that here you do most beautiful figure .... I want an apology from you Ryhan ... because after that I discover I had one false scripts .... I wonder why you banned me ... where I've seen I'm Hack???!
I did admin on another server as you'll see ... but do not pass me in the least to ban one, just because they tell me it is absurd element ... ... Unless I see I do not think .... take your responsibilities. ..
Question you do not know me to answer .... (But answer me) ... ?? If I used a FAKE CFG .... Where you saw me cheating where ??


@eLemennT You tell me that you and the server was legal to use this type of cfg ! what a fool I've been ... but do not wash your hands, and do not give all the blame on Ryhan, you had assured me in chat that within a few days I would be unbanned ... I have gone seven days ... but I do not rush to be unbanned ... I'm playing it itself, on other servers ... where maybe my Skills, abilities or disabilities  do not turn into an endless tread of "unabanned".

Sorry for bad english!
good job

Regards.

[Ryan~]

Yesterday when I play Element Kill me always with Deagle ; and always HeadShot, I wrote him in server he use aim or cheat ... and he tell me no I use CFG , aim.cfg , and y can download it on ambrosia server...because is legit a... another player tell me element is admin and know all...all troll me .... i can't find it on your forum ... and i send him private message say you when y find it... today when we are playing i tell him in the server chat if y read my PV Mess , and not reply.... i tell him i found it but not changed... he tell to ryannn i use a script ... and ryan ban Me ... Now I discovered that cfg i founded its fake (not changing anithing in game) and on shutbox discover that ryann ban me after element tell him i use scripting........ End Of Story

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is that a troll or he's really weird, I think someone was using his acc before(maybe someone was playing with his name and cheated) and you should take a look and compare his grammar to above posts, at some places his grammar is perfect lol.

[Hajrulla]

Lmfao. Don't make me regret my words, and don't change yours too. Okay, I trolled you but I never said cheating is legit, I told you skills are legit. Never told you that you can use cheats. Be real and honest, lying will lead you nowhere and one other thing is that you PMed me for aim.cfg, you admitted to using it. I didn't send you anything or anylink except ambrosia-servers.com. I don't have what to explain anymore, just be patient for the unban's panel decision.
Ryan it's the same person.

[Ryan~]

Lmfao. Don't make me regret my words, and don't change yours too. Okay, I trolled you but I never said cheating is legit, I told you skills are legit. Never told you that you can use cheats. Be real and honest, lying will lead you nowhere and one other thing is that you PMed me for aim.cfg, you admitted to using it. I didn't send you anything or anylink except ambrosia-servers.com. I don't have what to explain anymore, just be patient for the unban's panel decision.
Ryan it's the same person.

Can we have ss of his PM please?

[Mommo05]

Lmfao. Don't make me regret my words, and don't change yours too. Okay, I trolled you but I never said cheating is legit, I told you skills are legit. Never told you that you can use cheats. Be real and honest, lying will lead you nowhere and one other thing is that you PMed me for aim.cfg, you admitted to using it. I didn't send you anything or anylink except ambrosia-servers.com. I don't have what to explain anymore, just be patient for the unban's panel decision.
Ryan it's the same person.

Yuo tell me Aim cfg is legit ... And i Find it on Ambrosia ... because in this server aim cfg is legit.... in the PM i ask you where is it... if you can send me precise link... In the Demo (day after troll me ) you troll another member of the server and tell him (after he tell you "wh") y can find my hack on ambrosia server... in the demo see the chat... I apologize to you if I've mentioned it again ... you were kind and gentle with me after Rihan has banned me ... you apologized .. I quite like getting your gesture and your post ... humble and clear. ... I did not accept the arrogance of Rihan ... because he thinks to be the perfect man and you can not go wrong ... we are human ... the problem is that after I posted the cfg ... and I do not think one .... script but Rhian up is now convinced that it was the no Recoil. ... Sorry Element. Do not get me wrong ... I'm sorry ... there is still have it with Ryhan.

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Yuo tell me Aim cfg is legit ... And i Find it on Ambrosia ... because in this server aim cfg is legit.... in the PM i ask you where is it... if you can send me precise link... In the Demo (day after troll me ) you troll another member of the server and tell him (after he tell you "wh") y can find my hack on ambrosia server... in the demo see the chat... I apologize to you if I've mentioned it again ... you were kind and gentle with me after Rihan has banned me ... you apologized .. I quite like getting your gesture and your post ... humble and clear. ... I did not accept the arrogance of Rihan ... because he thinks to be the perfect man and you can not go wrong ... we are human ... the problem is that after I posted the cfg ... and I do not think one .... script but Rhian up is now convinced that it was the no Recoil. ... Sorry Element. Do not get me wrong ... I'm sorry ... there is still have it with Ryhan.

The main problem is that you wanted to cheat in our server! We do not support it even if an admin was sarcastically joking about it. Is there point to unban you if all you was interested in was getting aim.cfg?

[Andrew`]

We've all thought about cheating once in our lives, we do not have evidence that he cheated, and only witnesses that say he wanted to try cheat, but I do not think this is enough for a conviction. I suppose he learnt his lesson for now and if he does cheat indeed he will be caught and banned.

[java LADY]

First of all, @Mommo05  your intention definitely was to cheat. Here are the evidences in shout box:




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You even applied for the admin position, and it is really a shame that someone applying for admin thinks that cheats are legit. You even downloaded the the cheat script. You posted this  saying that it is the content of your .cfg file:




Yeah you tried to download the cheat but FAILED.  Please do not repeat such foolish attempt when you are playing, at least not in ambrosia server because this will result in PERMANENT BAN.

One of the primary cause of this whole scenario is admin  @eLemennT 's trolling. I strongly consent with others that admin should not be displaying such disgraceful attitude. Admins have  high ranked position in the server. So some of the new players joining the server might believe on whatever they say. And this case is the perfect example.  I am not saying that admins should not joke at all, but there is limit in everything.

About the demo,the player's aim was laggy most of the time, but it became stable in last 2 kills, which was suspicious. But only 2 kills can not be enough evidence to ban someone. Sometimes players can get lucky in couple of  kills. Also Andrew's detailed analysis helped a lot to clarify the suspicion. Therefore, I have to unban him.

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