Author Topic: Unban Request - Sober-Guy - by admin TjaardA - Dust2 Only (Read 306 times)

Sober-Guy · « **on:** January 12, 2017, 11:21:31 pm »

Your Name in-game: Sober-Guy

Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:6218944

Reason: Wallhack

Date & Time: Just now

Admin: TjaardA

Server: Dust2 Only

Have you been banned before: No I haven't banned before for cheating.

Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com): No screenshot were taken.

Other: Well. He banned me for wallhack, that must be some joke I guess. Most of admins know me already I'm clean. Watch the demo again and then you'll realize that it's all about sound and skill. I'm playing with head-phones on and acting according to sound and with brain on. I've been playing this game since it's released from 1.5.

Andrew` · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2017, 11:34:42 pm »

I find it extremely wrong to ban an admin, especially for cheating, no matter if it's true or not. But I guess he was not aware and did not recognize you due to the suspension. Demo will show up.

TjaardA · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2017, 11:39:57 pm »

Sober-Guy
STEAM_0:1:6218944

Always knows everything, AFK and walkin players don't make sounds....
http://91.121.145.85/panel/136/downloads/Demos/sober-guys.rar

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Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com): No screenshot were taken.
(New ESP cheats have a fix for screen-shots, at screenshot command it disables the hack.)

DoN<ReD BuLL> · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2017, 12:31:17 am »

sORRY BUT WTF IS GOING ON ? AT AMBRO.? OK IM NOT ABLE TO BAN AN ADMIN OR SOMETHING . 1 TJAARDA. SOBER HES ADMIN WICH IS SUSPENDED YOU JUST CANT SIMPLE BAN HIM.2. DEMO IS 2 ROUND ITS JOKE FOR PLAYER LIKE HIM YOU SHOULD DO ABOUT 20 MIN DEMO FOR HIM TO BE SURE. 1 SOUND. 2 SKILL 3 FINDE SOMETHING SCRIPT SOMETHING . SORRY TJAARDA BUT i WANT TO ASK YOU WHAT NICK YOU WAS HAVE BEFORE OR YOU NEW IN AMBRO? iM JUST CANT REMEMBER YOU AND i CANT UNDERSTAND. i WAS SPECTING HIM LONG TIME A GO AND WAS DOING THIS TILL NOW, DONT FINDE NOTHING. AND YOU JUST BANING SIMPLE AN ADMIN. SORRY PEOPLE BUT THIS FUK... WRONG . REGARDS ....REDBULL. OFCOURSE UNBAN AND HES ASWELL IN tournament PEOPLE.

Flio · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2017, 12:48:50 am »

Before you ban Sober
I knifed him and killed him many times.

and i think you are failed sir,

Personally, I rejoice when I find suber and clubber (The same talents) in server

They are good players and are clean

kell_ · « **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2017, 12:50:15 am »

Demo is clean. His Aim is a bit jumpy though. But I'm not expert on aim-script possibilities. I'd suggest sober just record all your games for a while. And Tjaarda take SS next time you ban an admin!

TjaardA · « **Reply #6 on:** January 13, 2017, 01:15:37 am »

Sober-Guy,

Got on the server today and you found my attention, most times that means a player is cheating or skilled.
My next step is to rule out the "luck" factor, for me this means to continue to change my game-play and play silent all the time.
When steps like "timing, location and silent" don't make any difference, i start to wonder.
Like a decent admin i have reported my recording at 'admin chat' and you did not say anything or reply at admin chat.
So i noticed when i started to record, after that moment your game-play changed.
After the map change your game-play changed back to normal, to before the recording has been started.
For admins and me a change in game-play like that shows a player cheats, its a clear give away.
Let me repeat this on the demo: Always knows everything, AFK and walkin players don't make sounds....

***PS***

Best to keep the discussion here on the forum, instead of at the shoutbox!
Also not going to reply to this post, there are insults etc.. lets keep the discussion clean.

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Posted by: Sober-Guy « on: January 12, 2017, 11:55:38 PM »
You must be joke! Watch the demo again then you'll realize it's all about sound and skill. I'm playing with head-phones on and I'm acting according to sound and with brain on.. I've been playing this game since it's released from 1.5.
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*************************************Shoutbox LOG*****************************************
[12|01-11:23] YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY:

[12|01-11:23] Sober-Guy: Is that new admin?
[12|01-11:24] YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY: No lol
[12|01-11:24] YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY: He's server tech.
[12|01-11:24] Sober-Guy: that must be joke

[12|01-11:24] YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY: Didn't he know that you are admin?
[12|01-11:25] YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY: Damn he banned you at tournament day
[12|01-11:25] Sober-Guy: city
[12|01-11:25] Sober-Guy: accept my admin
[12|01-11:25] YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY: hope they don't disqualify you :$
[12|01-11:26] Sober-Guy: steam request*
[12|01-11:26] Sober-Guy: accept my steam request
[12|01-11:26] YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY: Ok
[12|01-11:27] Sober-Guy: are you online? :d
[12|01-11:31] Andrew~: city accept his admin man, give him his rights

[12|01-11:31] Sober-Guy:

that was wrong
[12|01-11:46] TjaardA: wel you knew i recorded y
[12|01-11:47] TjaardA: and no admin chat reply nothing
[13|01-12:00] Sober-Guy: lol

[13|01-12:00] Sober-Guy: *sigh* what a day it was
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TjaardA · « **Reply #7 on:** January 13, 2017, 02:06:06 am »

Quote from: kell_ on January 13, 2017, 12:50:15 am

Demo is clean. His Aim is a bit jumpy though. But I'm not expert on aim-script possibilities. I'd suggest sober just record all your games for a while. And Tjaarda take SS next time you ban an admin!

Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com): No screenshot were taken.
(New ESP cheats have a fix for screen-shots, at screenshot command it disables the hack.)

Ed · « **Reply #8 on:** January 13, 2017, 06:04:42 am »

Even though Sober-Guy is Admin, his rights were suspended and therefore it isn't fault of Tjaarda to make the ban. Quite frankly I see a big mess just from one admin being involved everywhere where he shouldn't of been. Being reported wrongly on the first report is a sign that you was at fault somewhere. About the demos @Intrepid~RyANNNNN. ♫ , can you provide all the demos you have taken before for this case.

Also if you are not unbanned withing 1-2 days time, you won't be able to participate in the tournament.

Card Clasher · « **Reply #9 on:** January 13, 2017, 06:20:17 am »

Unban this nerd, he's a pretty good player.

Not just by judging the demo, I've played with and against him. Nonetheless i could smell if someone is cheating but sober is just another fellow nerd that has played for some time as well

.

Legit player from my side

RAMBATEN · « **Reply #10 on:** January 13, 2017, 07:28:19 am »

2k17 you are banning fellow admins

YOU.HAVE.FAILED.THIS.CITY · « **Reply #11 on:** January 13, 2017, 09:55:23 am »

@TjaardA just for the record though, I didn't mean any insult in that shoutbox chat, I was only wondering how you recorded him without him noticing that and consequently, telling you that he's an admin. I didn't know that his rights were suspended.

Ryan~ · « **Reply #12 on:** January 13, 2017, 10:49:17 am »

Quote from: Ed on January 13, 2017, 06:04:42 am

Even though Sober-Guy is Admin, his rights were suspended and therefore it isn't fault of Tjaarda to make the ban. Quite frankly I see a big mess just from one admin being involved everywhere where he shouldn't of been. Being reported wrongly on the first report is a sign that you was at fault somewhere. About the demos @Intrepid~RyANNNNN. ♫ , can you provide all the demos you have taken before for this case.

Also if you are not unbanned withing 1-2 days time, you won't be able to participate in the tournament.

Here are my demos

*) In this first demo as u can see clearly, before he killed his two opponents with sound but other two were camping(camper doesn't make any sound) in the tunnel and were at opposite position.
http://www.filedropper.com/steam0162189441483900452

*) in this demo for example there was a prefire when he was going from B to mid, but at other places, he appears to not know where the enemy is, and also when he was rushing from short to ct base without any hasitation and not to check the long like he already knew the afks are in ct base.
http://www.filedropper.com/sober5

Again as I said before, he always follow his opposite team spot without any clearance.
*) http://www.filedropper.com/soberguy4
*) http://www.filedropper.com/sober

Some of people are thinking that he's clean and not even bother to spec him once because of that reason Sober took advantange of it, Don't you worry about the demos that they're short or long as I already gave the demos above and I was recording him from 2 weeks and my friends were next to him, @Zole would you like to post the demos please, I promised to give you a chance to post, thanks

Andrew` · « **Reply #13 on:** January 13, 2017, 11:22:25 am »

Let me remind to the audience an fellow unban panelists here that suspicions and "smells" are not the most important here. This guy is in the tournament and if he is eventually proven innocent and gets disqualified from the tournament because of being banned all of this will be on us. If you're gonna post here I suggest you have a valid point and support it and essentially having watched the demos. We all become judges here even if we have no idea what we're doing.

In my opinion Sober-Guy is a valid, skilled player. Now, to me he's either probably clean, or a very smart cheater. I cannot post a totally un-biased point of view as I haven't watched the demos, but I will try to do so today. I would like to put in question though the fact that a player has been banned a total of 3 times, he got banned twice and found to be clean, accepted as admin and then AGAIN banned for the same purpose. I find this a mistake of ours(the Staff) for not getting updated enough on this case and banning someone 3 times and IF he is found to be a cheater the lack of thourough investigation in the case for the previous bans. Long story short, no matter the decision, his case is a mistake on our side.

Regards.

Card Clasher · « **Reply #14 on:** January 13, 2017, 12:06:51 pm »

Quote from: Andrew~ on January 13, 2017, 11:22:25 am

Let me remind to the audience an fellow unban panelists here that suspicions and "smells" are not the most important here. This guy is in the tournament and if he is eventually proven innocent and gets disqualified from the tournament because of being banned all of this will be on us. If you're gonna post here I suggest you have a valid point and support it and essentially having watched the demos. We all become judges here even if we have no idea what we're doing.

In my opinion Sober-Guy is a valid, skilled player. Now, to me he's either probably clean, or a very smart cheater. I cannot post a totally un-biased point of view as I haven't watched the demos, but I will try to do so today. I would like to put in question though the fact that a player has been banned a total of 3 times, he got banned twice and found to be clean, accepted as admin and then AGAIN banned for the same purpose. I find this a mistake of ours(the Staff) for not getting updated enough on this case and banning someone 3 times and IF he is found to be a cheater the lack of thourough investigation in the case for the previous bans. Long story short, no matter the decision, his case is a mistake on our side.

Regards.

STEAM_0:1:6218944

7 digit steam is enough to prove he is quite old, and knows the game better than most of the people who play here.

Card Clasher · « **Reply #15 on:** January 13, 2017, 02:32:24 pm »

One last post and I'm out.

Just unban him already lol, quite unfair to make him miss the tourny. He's a good challenger.

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NikA · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2017, 03:15:13 pm »

Support for this guys hes not a wh hes clean and hes an idiot

Ed · « **Reply #18 on:** January 13, 2017, 05:13:27 pm »

He is allowed to participate in the tournament stage 1. If he is found to be using advantageous system, he will be disqualified and won't get to stage 2. IF he is clean, it doesn't matter then. So I retract my statement earlier, it makes absolutely no difference for the stage 1.

GandElf The Gay · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2017, 06:15:50 pm »

I've played against him on the server and anyone watching the demos can realize that whether he uses hacks (which i don't believe yet) or not, he is a skilled player.
Mr. @TjaardA you might have been spectating him for a while and felt that he changed his game while you were doing so but if it's not in the demo, we can't keep hiim banned.
You want to ban someone at his skills, please provide better demos.
If you re-watch your demo, I think you'll agree that the demo shows nothing.
I also watched 2 of Ryaaan's demos too which don't prove anything either. You just assumed too much.