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Offline Hutch

[UNBANNED]Unban request Hutch [Judge : ~RoN]
« on: December 23, 2015, 01:09:09 pm »
Nickname : TS@Rski HuTch
SteamID : You already have
Reason : script
Date : today , few mins ago
Admin : Haroune
Server : JB
Have you been banned before : Yes
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Here is my config , i didnt know this kind of gstrafe wasnt allowed, because i saw other players doing it and no admin asked them anything about that.
So , today, i was like "why not try this gstrafe and shit because i could rebel easily with that".
Before that i bound mwheelup and mwheeldown to "+duck" only and today i added the ";wait;-duck" to see the difference

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Unban request Hutch
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2015, 01:09:09 pm »
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Re: Unban request Hutch
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2015, 01:13:36 pm »
If this kind of script gives you an advantage over other players then it may be considered as an unfair advantage which simply means that's illegal.

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Re: Unban request Hutch
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2015, 01:20:55 pm »
I know what you mean , but i saw some players doing the gstrafe , i though that gstrafe was only binding mwheeldown to "+duck"
but i made some research on youtube for "how to gstrafe" and I saw people binding mwheel up and down to "+duck; wait; -duck".
The fact is I didnt see these players getting banned for "scripting" , I cant name these players but i did never see any admins asking anything to them

EDIT : In the demo , i was hiding from the ct because i had the tmp , i kept crouching in the cell and so on
I swear I'm a clean and a fair player, just ask me to remove the "script" and I will, no need to ban
« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 01:28:04 pm by Hutch »

Offline Burzum

Re: Unban request Hutch
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 01:59:25 pm »
i banned a guy for using that gstrafe on Public server, but he was unbanned almost in the same minute by a HS member, saying that it was not script or whatever

anyways, script or not, that gstrafe gives u a huge clearly advantage, coz u can run/move faster than anybody

so i would like to know how to deal with this, and state a rule for this actions. coz in my opinion, u have a huge advantage with this gstrafe if u use it for rush or scape from being knifed
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Re: Unban request Hutch
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2015, 03:01:27 pm »
i banned a guy for using that gstrafe on Public server, but he was unbanned almost in the same minute by a HS member, saying that it was not script or whatever

anyways, script or not, that gstrafe gives u a huge clearly advantage, coz u can run/move faster than anybody

so i would like to know how to deal with this, and state a rule for this actions. coz in my opinion, u have a huge advantage with this gstrafe if u use it for rush or scape from being knifed

Way to fix on public:
Airaccelerate 10, this however also removed the capability of bhopping :(

On jb, i wouldn't go for airaccelerate 10 as this would fuck up so much. Just let the guy have some fun while ct sprays the fcker down
« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 03:03:54 pm by Pim »


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Re: Unban request Hutch
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2015, 03:36:12 pm »
It depends, if it's a skill (which he learned it by him self) then it's legal, it's if you're playing against a noob, is it legal to beat him up? The difference is that you took time to learn these skills, however the others just didn't.
 Or if you just downloaded a script that allows you to have an advantage on the others, it's used as a kind of hack.

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Re: Unban request Hutch
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2015, 03:41:27 pm »
Well this can't really be considered as a script in my opinion as the command doesn't grant him an important advantage as it doesn't rely on aliases and stuff like that. This may give him a certain advantage but the advantage isn't really that important and that's why I believe that the punishment that was issued on him was a bit unfair.

Also would you ban someone for writing this in console : bind d "+right;+moveright" ? It's a script as well if you consider his command as a script since it gives an advantage. And what about the voice toggle script that was posted by taha a year ago ? I'm currently using this script in order not to be obliged to hold the voice communication key while commanding in the server but the question is, is that even allowed ?

Since this rule concerns most of the time bhoping/gstrafing then it isn't fair at all. Most players like BuddyTrollsten or Diego (Dedara) use macro software since they own a particular mouse that grants them this advantage. So the question is why would you punish people for writing a command in console that grants them an advantage and not the ones who use particular devices for it ?
« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 04:03:18 pm by ReFresh »

Offline Hutch

Re: Unban request Hutch
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2015, 05:00:14 pm »
I dont know what you were thinking about Haroune , You know I am not this kind of person that would cheat etc
You could even ask me in "psay" if I was using any kind of script.

Offline Red Wolf

Re: Unban request Hutch
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2015, 07:19:52 pm »
As refresh said, its not a real script. It is simply a bind
bind mwheeldown "+duck;wait;-duck;wait;"
So id also supprot for an unban and decide whether this is punishable or not.
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Re: Unban request Hutch
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2015, 10:21:59 pm »
I don't think this should be allowed on the servers. Just asking the players to stop should be enough and a short ban if they don't obey the admin. I too have seen this on public and for most ppl it makes the player unhittable not to mention the speed advantage and covering more of the map faster then others.
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Re: Unban request Hutch
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2015, 03:33:41 am »
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As far as i know until now there is no rule that blocks this. This is not a script. I will make sure to have a discussion about this with high staff and we will see if we should put a rule about it. But for now there is no rule that blocks this.

So due to that.

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Re: [UNBANNED]Unban request Hutch [Judge : ~RoN]
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2015, 07:13:38 am »
Just to clarify.. As long as you gstrafe legally without using any kind of script/hack its non-bannable.