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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2015, 05:12:18 pm »
Nothing offensive or racist in his name, I'm a muslim.
I don't find it offensive at all because ISIS are actually gay as fuck, they're asswipes who kill people for no reason, if Supertomi found it offensive that just means he's working for the ISIS.
Also the name is from a southpark episode which came out few days ago.
Nothing racist about the name.
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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2015, 05:13:10 pm »
Because it's a paradox ray. Nobody should be offended because of a fiction term "ninjas" that reside in Isis are Homosexual to my nickname.

The only and I mean only offensive thing is if that word was removed. But, because it's there it emphasizes on Ninjas. So unless you can find a group of people that used a time machine from Feudal Japan and came to Isis and took on the name Ninjas from Isis then yeah. Pretty offensive in that alternative history.
Okay seems like your only argument is having "ninja"  your name.
I challenge you to argue with me without having any argument about ninja.
Using the term ISIS and gay in your name, shows how provocative you are.
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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2015, 05:15:03 pm »
Because it's a paradox ray. Nobody should be offended because of a fiction term "ninjas" that reside in Isis are Homosexual to my nickname.

The only and I mean only offensive thing is if that word was removed. But, because it's there it emphasizes on Ninjas. So unless you can find a group of people that used a time machine from Feudal Japan and came to Isis and took on the name Ninjas from Isis then yeah. Pretty offensive in that alternative history.
Okay seems like your only argument is having "ninja"  your name.
I challenge you to argue with me without having any argument about ninja.
Using the term ISIS and gay in your name, shows how provocative you are.
ISIS is gay. I'd be provoking homosexual people because I'm using 'Gay' to insult a band of delusional cunts. Don't see anything else offensive in the name.

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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2015, 05:20:43 pm »
Oh, then, if I say,
Those Ambrosia animals who play JB are retarded,
Isnt this offensive as ****?

And, no, definition of both words is different, but that isnt the only thing taken into consideration.

P.S: Nothing against ambrosia  :D
This is only an example  :D
EDIT: I can also put "ISIS people are gay" and i can say that isis has no gays.
this is also an example (in case ur a robot and dont have common sense)
« Last Edit: November 15, 2015, 05:22:31 pm by Red Wolf »
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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2015, 05:22:53 pm »
Thrashmands had the name "." (dot)  today and when ron came he said to thrashmands to change it ,and he did,but that doesnt mean that u should do the same mistake as he did.
Supertomi didnt do anything bad at all .
The way u explaining ur name(Isis ninjas are gay)  is not offensive but this is by ur prespective, he said to u to change it, u didnt do that that and changed ur name to (.) just because thrash had it. And then  tomi kicked u.
those green monkeys are stupid


.just like Ray said it mostly looks like offensive...
« Last Edit: November 15, 2015, 05:25:38 pm by LoTT »

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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2015, 05:25:30 pm »
i don't see any thing wrong is this tag ""Isis Ninjas are Gay"" isis have nothing to do with muslims and ninjas is directed to isis please stop overthinking to find a way that this tag have any thing offencive....
« Last Edit: November 15, 2015, 05:28:08 pm by backup »

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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2015, 05:37:10 pm »
It's a matter of perspective of course but since replica is considered part of staff, he should know better than having such nicknames that may be considered offensive
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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2015, 05:38:42 pm »
Well , i would have done the same .

If i find a player naming himself , Israeli angry martian ; Algerian living toilet ; American Hungry rocket ; I would have immediately changed the name . Not because Martians are found in israel or living toilets are found in Algeria or hungry rockets in America .

But simply as admins we must control the server , and anything related to a country , religion . will simply be the oil of a fire , It has been seen before and it will be seen again .

PL , i understand that you want the freedom to put any nickname you want and more than that a debate before changing your nickname , which is your right . But It's not necessary for you to hold that nickname is it ? so why not change it if it will make our lovely server more controllable ; Especially in this times of sorrow in the last events that hit Paris .

EDIT

In only my opinion :
If a member of ISIS is playing in Jailbreak at the moment ; will you ban him even if he is following the rules ? This is a gaming community that separates religion and politics from playing . Therefore he must be respected in my opinion , that's why i don't understand all the insults .
« Last Edit: November 15, 2015, 05:45:43 pm by Alcapon »
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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2015, 05:41:50 pm »
Well , i would have done the same .

If i find a player naming himself , Israeli angry martian ; Algerian living toilet ; American Hungry rocket ; I would have immediately changed the name . Not because Martians are found in israel or living toilets are found in Algeria or hungry rockets in America .

But simply as admins we must control the server , and anything related to a country , religion . will simply be the oil of a fire , It has been seen before and it will be seen again .

PL , i understand that you want the freedom to put any nickname you want and more than that a debate before changing your nickname , which is your right . But It's not necessary for you to hold that nickname is it ? so why not if it will make our lovely server more controllable ; Especially in this times of sorrow in the last events that hit Paris .
This is true! Gotta agree with Al Capon here..
The funny thing is, whistle reporting supertomi, he got himself busted.. Lol :D

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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2015, 05:46:18 pm »
Well , i would have done the same .

If i find a player naming himself , Israeli angry martian ; Algerian living toilet ; American Hungry rocket ; I would have immediately changed the name . Not because Martians are found in israel or living toilets are found in Algeria or hungry rockets in America .

But simply as admins we must control the server , and anything related to a country , religion . will simply be the oil of a fire , It has been seen before and it will be seen again .

PL , i understand that you want the freedom to put any nickname you want and more than that a debate before changing your nickname , which is your right . But It's not necessary for you to hold that nickname is it ? so why not if it will make our lovely server more controllable ; Especially in this times of sorrow in the last events that hit Paris .

In only my opinion :
If a member of ISIS is playing in Jailbreak at the moment ; will you ban him even if he is following the rules ? This is a gaming community that separates religion and politics from playing . Therefore he must be respect in my opinion , that's why i don't understand all the insults .
Exactly what i would have done aswell.
Why use such name after the terrorism in france, lebanon and many other places and soon in london, iraq, etc..
You're playing with fire and you knew the consequences.
Your goal was to see how admins would react so you could report them.
That's not cool replica...
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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2015, 05:53:38 pm »
The episode came out Wednesday and he was using the name before the attack, just sayin'.
+ it's not racist or offensive.
ISIS are gay, have a problem? Means you're one of them.
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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2015, 05:56:44 pm »
The episode came out Wednesday and he was using the name before the attack, just sayin'.
+ it's not racist or offensive.
ISIS are gay, have a problem? Means you're one of them.
Thats the same for gays,
until they became legit  :D
So, if I say gays are retards, why would I get punished for that, u are not one of them.
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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2015, 05:57:56 pm »
The episode came out Wednesday and he was using the name before the attack, just sayin'.
+ it's not racist or offensive.
ISIS are gay, have a problem? Means you're one of them.
Thats the same for gays,
until they became legit  :D
So, if I say gays are retards, why would I get punished for that, u are not one of them.

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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2015, 06:04:41 pm »
Because of that single pesky word, the argument draws other arguments. We can't pretend that it's not there when it is, your object of interest is of conjecture.

And what is that I accomplish if I'm to per say provoke as you say ray.

I hardly come by on the server and because of my history portfolio I have no previous accounts of provoking so your point is? I'm not even remotely concerned about ISIS nor show islamophobic ideas.

The only things I did lately on the server are some posh talks with few oldies that join now. So by no stretch of the imagination, you can convince and overturn my choice of nickname as provocative.

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Your example is again virtually impossible to mean anything else because of the usage of words. My example is a semi-plausible scenario of geopolitical paradox of Ninjas that reside in the state of ISIS. You have to make differences between a Paradox, a illogical sentence, alternate envisioning

Your sentence cannot be taken in literal sense due to ambrosia having absence of animals, and ambrosia being a plant-like myth object which is not animals.. Where as mine is to signify an opinion that I think Ninjas from Isis are homosexual. And as godlike said, I could have been probably offensive to homosexual people using their "calling card" <gay> ***to describe a Ninja from ISIS***. Period.

Mine is a simple paradox which don't mean anything because it's funny to think of Ninjas in the State of ISIS. Because there is no such pointer or reference of a rule to forcefully task everybody to discover hidden meanings due to it's plain literal meaning.

Since the sentence has a literal meaning it doesn't fluctuate to compare ninjas to ISIS residents. They might be similar, but sadly two terms for the two concepts exist.

The other example that Red Wolf posted is also paradoxical. Due to having Muslim Radicals that Reside in the State of ISIS, homosexuality is theoretically impossible, so I find it interesting to address them like that. Which even makes my point even more paradoxical because ISIS cannot be "homosexual" by theory.

P.S: If you you can find me a rule that defines that every sentence/word/speech is to have more than one meaning please list it. In that case, I can let you know how many nicknames are offensive and to be forbidden.

 .(Dot) incident, because supertomi had no explanation of the the misconduct that the administrator you mentioned(gumball), he was to explain that to me but he demanded action beyond reasoning.


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Your examples are still inaccurate to my nickname, but nevertheless they are not offensive.
Having a possessive national adjective that declares an object's origin is not political/religious, and I don't know where you got the message that such adjectives are to signify "oiling the fire". How can you conceptualize an object that contains a "country-related" toponym. By your logic, you should purge that and classify it as problematic.

You cannot argument or make any point across on probability if "some" ISIS resident plays at the "moment". Having the Paris Topic in ambrosia and the replies that follow has vindicated my grief if i was to offend some ISIS resident. But because of the existence of Ninja, it's not aimed at ISIS nor the Ninja. Just a fictional person that (will) never exist.

If the nickname is blatantly obvious to be offensive, and in the major consensus is actively called "offensive" I wouldn't refine the requirement to explain one's action. But supertomi did not reason or explain his actions at all and just recall I make a report instead.
My nickname to remind you was roaming on the server for days without anybody asking or talking about it. You cannot excuse your "exception" to not reason with me because of some real life event that took place. If we are to make points on Probability, why would I not live in a cave and not be informed about the incident in Paris.

I don't see any problem into changing my name, but that name was there for days before the Paris Incident. buddy even told you where it's origin was.

I have no Goal as you define it Ray, I joined the server to have fun. Not witness administrators not even try and tell you what is the problem.

Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2015, 06:06:50 pm »
The episode came out Wednesday and he was using the name before the attack, just sayin'.
+ it's not racist or offensive.
ISIS are gay, have a problem? Means you're one of them.
Thats the same for gays,
until they became legit  :D
So, if I say gays are retards, why would I get punished for that, u are not one of them.
Gay people have rights
But ISIS don't have rights, they're monters and do terrible shit to people, how can you be offended by someone saying that someone who kills children by strapping C4 bombs is a fgt?

Watch this, you will understand everything
http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s19e07-naughty-ninjas
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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2015, 06:12:19 pm »
it is simple , do not bring politics ,geopolitics ,ethnic, or any armed group radicals names or not in a gaming community, there is millions nicknames ,choose another one and play

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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2015, 06:14:29 pm »
Buddy , i'm not sure you are the right person to teach us the difference between "racist" and "non racist" .

Anyways we will talk about it later .

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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2015, 06:16:28 pm »
I wanna add that isis is not even a country they are considered as a "gang" and as far as ik they have nothing to do with Muslims so... if I said Mars aliens are gays I won't be insulting any one in this community same goes to "isis gay ninja"
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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2015, 06:17:36 pm »

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Re: Complaint towards administrator: Supertomi
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2015, 06:19:40 pm »
We had a talk with Ron specifically for this case and the future cases of this kind..


For PL:

1. PL you have zero connections to ISIS (nor your country nor you).
2. PL you are aware that Politics should not be implemented at all. We are gaming community.
3. PL, as we have checked the logs you have been provoking with your Nick lately. (admins saying not to put "." as a name, first thing as admin leaves you do that, and now this nick with the ISIS stuff.
4. Ignoring admins (even if they are wrong) will only result in your kick/ban, if you think that you are misjudged you can come to the High staff.
5. We already have a big fire around the REAL world with Terrorism and e.t.c., we don't need ANY SPARKLES from those subjects in our gaming community.
6. To be honest we warn our admins not to use some inappropriate nicks so we will warn players same way.


For Supertomi:

1. Supertomi you did a good job by explaining him not to use that nick. Usage of that nick (as PL can SEE on forum) has already started some fire replies which we do not want to have at all.
2. Supertomi also we would like you to behave a bit calm with these kind of players. Example: If someone ignores you and they are obviously trying to provoke please explain them how to make a report if they think they are misjudged (no need to be a bad ass and say: Go report me, just calm and say the following: If you think you have been misjudged by the JB administration feel free to fill in a complaint at ambrosia-servers.eu , nothing else)


Conclusion: PL you are a moderator, and act like one. Consider this as an oral warning towards you, because you are only provoking the jailbreak administration, so please cease those nonsense activities, and use a proper Nick as it suits you.


Do not implement any Politics/Terrorism/Hate or e.t.c. even if it is a small sparkle (like this one from PL), we are a gaming community where you can chill and play, not argue.

Case Solved.

If higher staff thinks that this case has been interpreted in a wrong outcome, they can freely re-open it and find a better solution.