[warned][JB] CT's Abusing

[justpro]

Playername:  "AW l poztkepozketozetk"                "AW | ktezotekzopektzop"
Steam-ID (If Possible): STEAM_0:1:98796771       STEAM_0:0:9059634
Server: jailbreak
Date & Time: 10/20 mins before this topic get posted
Complaint: They abuse while they are CT. When their friends asks for FD and they will give FD to him. They kill their friend on purpose to give FD.
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): http://www.mediafire.com/download/j9uijd0y4274thj/rambo.dem

[bucK]

hey there ,

i cant hear the voices . and i cant see anything suspecious . all i can see is cts moving like theyr are commanding properly .
yet , i cant judge duo to the problem im having with the voices in the demo

but i can also see that they are faking AW | Ambrosian Warriors clan

but im gonna leave this one to @header to check the video and see if they need to be  ct banned.

Please be patient

[bucK]

@Rambo-Killer @Thrashmands
you have anything to say for your selves ?

[HuniePop]

LOL!
That's all I'm saying.
Not guilty.

[Red Wolf]

Did u check ip? Maybe its a faker.

[HuniePop]

Did u check ip? Maybe its a faker.

No mate, it was us both.
We didn't do anything against rules.
We were having much fun, tbh.

When their friends asks for FD and they will give FD to him. They kill their friend on purpose to give FD.

That never happened.

[header]

Will look at this tonight

[justpro]

When their friends asks for FD and they will give FD to him. They kill their friend on purpose to give FD.

That never happened.

I hope they can bring the chatlogs here. When a player asked for FD, called Mano I guess, you gave him, he also laughed and said : He gave FD to me, for the moderators, please bring the chatlogs if you can, and you will see that Mano laughs and says that they gave him FD just because of he asked.

As last, you was just freekilling Mano also and gave him FD everytime even if you had fun, you was just breaking the rules. This is my first report of here, I didn't knew that I needed a longer demo, but next time, I'll do that.

[bucK]

. When a player asked for FD, called Mano I guess, you gave him, he also laughed and said : He gave FD to me,

u said it yourself . a player asked for a fd . as a commander sometimes you might forget if you did or didnt freekill a guy last round
when we see someone shouting at us or crying for a fd . we give him the fd even if he is lying just to keep the fun in the server and keep everyone happy
you might learn that after 1or 2 years of commanding .

i hope you understand . but i can also see in the dmeo that @Mano was laughing cuz he clearly didnt have a fd and he asked for it and cried for it . so for this one mano is the one to blame .
luckly there is no rule about lying/traping the cts to get a fd
but im gonna ask opinions from some experienced well respected jailbreak admins/players on what to do on this case
@ReFresh
@P o p a y

also header is the one to make the call here . also if you like i can check the logs for you
just give me the reason and the specific time

your call @header

[HuniePop]

http://www.mediafire.com/download/j9uijd0y4274thj/rambo.dem

I'm sorry, but if this report is worth CT banning me, specially because of the kind of proof he gave, then I'm gonna be really, REALLY pissed.
Also why the heck is Rambo in this?

u said it yourself . a player asked for a fd . as a commander sometimes you might forget if you did or didnt freekill a guy last round
when we see someone shouting at us or crying for a fd . we give him the fd even if he is lying just to keep the fun in the server and keep everyone happy

1. (Yellow part) Exactly!
2. (Blue part) I don't know why did mano laugh about the FD, tbh.

They kill their friend on purpose to give FD.

Yes, we freekilled him during /lr and then gave him FD. That happened only once, tbh, so, we gave him a FD to justify things, then everything is sorted out, no reason to panic.
About those "other times", justpro, as you somehow actually got that thought... Ask Rambo.

@justpro dude, may I ask you, what were you planning to archieve by doing this report? Specially because this case should be dropped right now because there's nothing to warn about?

As last, you was just freekilling Mano also and gave him FD everytime even if you had fun, you was just breaking the rules.

Where did you get that from? And I personally didn't break any rules.
It's ok if you're the new guy in jailbreak, justpro, we - experienced CT's - make mistakes sometimes. You will understand soon enough.

And also, next time be careful with your reports. Find the killing bits in console, so you know who's fault it really is, make proper demos with actual proof worth something, and find something actually ! worth reporting !, deal?

(I'm actually kinda lost here, so header will just drop this, I suppose.)

[bucK]

like i said this is not just about you . it about mano too
i didnt say you are guilty and i didnt say you are not . as i already said in my first post i cant hear voices and i cant see anything wrong

now as header said he will check on this one later on
as iam waiting for opinions from popay and refresh on lying to a ct to get a fd wich is not fair for everybody

please be patient

[Mano]

First of all   he was joking and i know that he is joking. when i asked for fd  i deserve it bcz he rly freekilled me but he was joking and i accept this. no need for ct ban or shit.  he was joking , i was joking just lock this topic that's it..

[P o p a y]

Many times CTs forget who had/hadn't got a fd. Reason is that sometimes there are many fds, and sometimes they occur every round so you just simply mix up the names/players.

However, if chatlogs prove that CTs KNEW that Mano was lying and still gave him fd, that means that Mano has  advantage given by the CTs in order to win round unfairly, which is prohibited.



Mano tried his luck, and got away with fd - Not his fault.

CTs gave a fd to wrong guy (although they knew it is not a fd for him). - Guilty

Player making this report - Not very strict/professional report, but still if it occurs many times CT ban is a must. Because I would be pissed if a player gets a FD for nothing every round and I follow commands all time and lose. So the guy who made this report is fair and made a good report but it is not a big report to be honest.



Conclusion: Warn CTs not give out FDs to people who didn't deserve FD. No need for banning now, no need for drop. Only warn for CTs because they gave advantage to a player.

Hope my opinion contributed to this report.

Good luck,
Popay

[HuniePop]

Player making this report - Not very strict/professional report, but still if it occurs many times CT ban is a must. Because I would be pissed if a player gets a FD for nothing every round and I follow commands all time and lose. So the guy who made this report is fair and made a good report but it is not a big report to be honest.

Can you look deeper into the logs, please?
I'm pretty sure, that mano earned his FD only once. That was because we freekilled him at last request.
We had given 2 other freedays to the certain someone who won the /lr TWICE. I don't remember the nickname.
And all other rounds before sd's - noone had FD.
We had a round with a freeday guy during the the time we both were ct with those weird nicks only few times. 3 or 4.
That's what I remember.

[bucK]

as our Jailbreak Head Admin said . no need for a ct ban in this case

so both of thrashmands and Rambo . Please next time make sure you give the fd to the right deserving person

Case Solved
Report Panelist,
Buckk