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Offline Velaxers

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Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2015, 12:01:17 am »
Well, i do say server were crashing sometimes while using UP, but that was the only bad thing in it, still it has all the good and secure things that would keep the server fun and secure. so i say that if you tony have time to fix the plugin and stop it from crashing at all, then you deserve "Jailbreak saviour 2015" trophy :D

Dude I already said this, when I was UC, I set up the server and it was not crashing at all. It did at the beginning but after some troubleshooting the stupid plugins that Roni requested have been removed because they caused the crash (roni accepted that ofc after I explained to him). After they have been fixed, the server stayed up 24/7 except when the dedibox where ddosed.

Since you're sure the plugin isn't crashing the server anymore, i guess we should give it another try, cuz simply the plugin we're currently using is nothing at all but the few special days. also we should try tony's plugin again on projectos.

PS: although if it still crashes, then please give tony a chance to look into it and find out what is the reason of it crashing.

Offline TeeKaaY

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2015, 11:13:41 am »
Well, i do say server were crashing sometimes while using UP, but that was the only bad thing in it, still it has all the good and secure things that would keep the server fun and secure. so i say that if you tony have time to fix the plugin and stop it from crashing at all, then you deserve "Jailbreak saviour 2015" trophy :D

Dude I already said this, when I was UC, I set up the server and it was not crashing at all. It did at the beginning but after some troubleshooting the stupid plugins that Roni requested have been removed because they caused the crash (roni accepted that ofc after I explained to him). After they have been fixed, the server stayed up 24/7 except when the dedibox where ddosed.

Since you're sure the plugin isn't crashing the server anymore, i guess we should give it another try, cuz simply the plugin we're currently using is nothing at all but the few special days. also we should try tony's plugin again on projectos.

PS: although if it still crashes, then please give tony a chance to look into it and find out what is the reason of it crashing.

You know why this won't happen? Because even if I set up the server again (btw I won't) someone will come along anf fuck it up. He's gonna go like, oh look a plugin that removes dead bodies and give candy to players, has absolutely no use at all but I will add it anyway because I am the HA. Plugin added and fucks something up, he doesn't know how to remove it and fucks something else up. I am not a babysitter, anytime someone fucks up, I clean after him.

If I remember correctly, raven has a backup of the server when it was fully set up and ready (yeah everything, even points and shit). Maybe ask him?

Have fun!

Offline 'PL'

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2015, 07:19:23 pm »
Let me rephrase this again:

The current plugin that jailbreak is using is only faulty because the head admin wanted to let the administrators still use UP as they got used to never open the console to use commands.
Both this plugin (and amx_super) have lost support which is basically the same as tony's plugin. The relevant difference is the base of algorithms but the interesting part is some things in the UP(and UJB) are hardcoded which would require the whole plugin to be remade or recoded so any demanding requests have to discarded with the sentence: "Sorry the base plugin doesn't allow that". With amx_super you have no restrictions over which things can or cannot be put in the server.

Even if amx_super's author is not interested into development of the plugin is still damm prettier for long term usage than yours tony. You made the plugin with the thought in mind that only you can put and take out things as you desire. Even if you release the source code, it would take a mediocre coder a lot of time and effort to understand your algorithms than somebody just to slap a plugin on amx_super. Sure, bugs would occur but it's not much different than playing around them.

I could say the same when you were still making the update log for the plugin that had bugs and what not. And as you said, play around the bugs until I fix them. And out of sudden, Pop goes the tony from UC.

Would you like me to refer the topics in the moment you left UC?

If you want the server to be dull, we can use your plugin in which nothing will change for over years and years and the jailbreak paradox will never be solved.
If we want to engage the players and administrators into new things, we can bring back features that made jailbreak shine those years back(starting with that buggy plugin as you aforementioned).
« Last Edit: August 09, 2015, 07:20:54 pm by 'PL' »

Offline Noex'

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2015, 10:46:49 pm »
Lol projetocs never crashed on tony's plugin , who lied to you ? :D

Offline TeeKaaY

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2015, 07:58:56 am »
Replica, honey listen. If my plugin is hard to edit, then sorry my friend, but you have to go to school and re-learn english. All those fancy words taken from the dictionary are not helping you.

I am not bragging but if you compare my plugin (code) to any other plugin out there (except MPNumB and a few good coders), you will notice that a complete beginner can actually kind of understand what each variable is talking about an can change it easily, but whith theirs its too fucking complicated.

Plus, sami was able to edit alot in my plugin with ease (no offence sami) and sami had no fucking idea how coding works. I dare you, fuck i'll double dare you to edit one thing in the plugin that you are using that tou can't in my plugin. Heck u'll fid what you wan faster in mine. If you also can find one thing that is easier to edit in that plugin than mine,  i'll buy you any game you want on steam. Yes I am that confident.

You are also stating that UP is causing the bugs in the new plugin, i urge the HA to add amx_super because I want you to see that those bugs are gonna stay present. And for the love of god, stop talking about algorithms, you don't even know what they are. An algorithm is a set of instructions to solve a problem, not to make the player glow for example. A little algoritm example would be trying to find the most efficient way to check all steamids every 10 seconds. That requees an algorithm, but checking if a player has 100HP does not require an algorithm. Adding stuff will give you the message "sorry the base plugin does not allow that", dude there aren't even a base plugin nor child plugins, what you talking about? Do I ever argue with you about some history shit? No because I know I suck at it, so do you in regards to coding. So please stop trying to defend yourself about something you don't know.

No, aing stupid words in places where they have no purposes won't help you look smart. To some low minded people, maybe you do sound smart but to me you don't specially when you are talking about something where your fundemental knowledge is limited to a bag of cotton balls.

Have fun!

Offline Red Wolf

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2015, 09:19:32 am »
I feel like i can write a whole book with all those words. just saying ::)
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Offline TeeKaaY

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2015, 01:39:11 pm »
I feel like i can write a whole book with all those words. just saying ::)

Here is a head start: http://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Book

Remember to credit me eh? :P

Offline 'PL'

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2015, 03:23:48 am »
I don't understand how my english or vocabulary has anything to do with this topic. But I sure see some kind of hate there for no damm reason. You want to get back to me when you left Uc as I just spilled some milk on ya? Ah come now tony, still old urges you got on me? You can't cross-examine me with just flooding the forums that my english is some kind of weaponry. If you want to learn a language, you sure want to use most words as possible. What's good in a language if you just use 10 words to expose how primitive is your knowledge of the language. You are one of the two people that trashtalk my english without any evidence.
Do you have a problem how I speak?
I mean, is there some language barrier I'm not registering?
Because speaking fluent english is not a problem for most people the last time I checked?
Or you can't deal with somebody speaking english in greater enrichment and diversity? 


Every time I speak or write english, you have a nerve telling me the words are out of place or don't make sense? Well, be me guest and point out how is that, you have 9000 posts as example. I ain't a native speaker, I could least do spelling mistakes if anything. But my crap is on spot. And compliments by good people give me that entitlement to declare this.

Look at these promises tony... (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=28373.msg357751#msg357751)

Now back to topic:

Algorithms!? I played dozens of half life mods, but I sure haven't seen the goldscr engine giving me those features unless amxx is in the server(game).

Amx_super is not a multitude of algorithms to make all of those commands work? They are in the engine? I think not... Why I can't glow myself in the goldscr engine? Why I can't glow myself in hammer? Or SDK for that matter? You got a point that algorithms are problem solving techniques, but glowing a player is not an algorithm by itself!? Somebody had to "UNLOCK" that feature PROBABLY!? And algorithms are not used for getting that feature?
But alright, I bow to the experienced coder in amxx to tell me that algorithms are not at all used in those simplistic commands.

Your plugin, it's ONE BIG PLUGIN that SIMPLY doesn't ALLOW ANYTHING TO BE STRAPPED ON. EVERY THING IS HARDCODED AND gives no freedom to be selective on other thirdparty "unnecessary" plugins as we categorize. Using your plugin is just that, unchangeable and big chunk of time to read and read until you get the idea. In amx_super you don't even have to read the plugin, you just EASILY put the stuff in ftp and wait to see if bugs occur.

Everybody has to be a coder to understand your plugin, or sure kill lot of free time, the learning curve is stiff and any average joe head admin would settle with something more ease of access.

So sami understood your plugin? We have something missing in this picture as you interpret this: Wasn't he like a head admin, wasn't he left alone when you resigned from uc leaving everything on his shoulders to deal with. He HAD to because he didn't want your work and plugin to be a waste. And I appreciate his best of ability for incorporating enthusiasm and working atmosphere to learn coding 101. 

So now, tony. I didn't had to throw any insults to you because I speak some bewildered english? Seems to me, that I didn't drop to your level to spread cringe about my abilities. And unfortunately I don't received any hate like you did the time you left uc.

Now, as I suppose tony had a blast of telling me how my Intellectual capacity is cotton balls, I propose to go back on topic and have a constructive criticism which is not repetitive about tony's plugin and this "partially" implemented one.

Offline Plzdie3

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2015, 03:55:55 am »
I don't understand how my english or vocabulary has anything to do with this topic. But I sure see some kind of hate there for no damm reason. You want to get back to me when you left Uc as I just spilled some milk on ya? Ah come now tony, still old urges you got on me? You can't cross-examine me with just flooding the forums that my english is some kind of weaponry. If you want to learn a language, you sure want to use most words as possible. What's good in a language if you just use 10 words to expose how primitive is your knowledge of the language. You are one of the two people that trashtalk my english without any evidence.
Do you have a problem how I speak?
I mean, is there some language barrier I'm not registering?
Because speaking fluent english is not a problem for most people the last time I checked?
Or you can't deal with somebody speaking english in greater enrichment and diversity? 


Every time I speak or write english, you have a nerve telling me the words are out of place or don't make sense? Well, be me guest and point out how is that, you have 9000 posts as example. I ain't a native speaker, I could least do spelling mistakes if anything. But my crap is on spot. And compliments by good people give me that entitlement to declare this.

Look at these promises tony... (http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=28373.msg357751#msg357751)

Now back to topic:

Algorithms!? I played dozens of half life mods, but I sure haven't seen the goldscr engine giving me those features unless amxx is in the server(game).

Amx_super is not a multitude of algorithms to make all of those commands work? They are in the engine? I think not... Why I can't glow myself in the goldscr engine? Why I can't glow myself in hammer? Or SDK for that matter? You got a point that algorithms are problem solving techniques, but glowing a player is not an algorithm by itself!? Somebody had to "UNLOCK" that feature PROBABLY!? And algorithms are not used for getting that feature?
But alright, I bow to the experienced coder in amxx to tell me that algorithms are not at all used in those simplistic commands.

Your plugin, it's ONE BIG PLUGIN that SIMPLY doesn't ALLOW ANYTHING TO BE STRAPPED ON. EVERY THING IS HARDCODED AND gives no freedom to be selective on other thirdparty "unnecessary" plugins as we categorize. Using your plugin is just that, unchangeable and big chunk of time to read and read until you get the idea. In amx_super you don't even have to read the plugin, you just EASILY put the stuff in ftp and wait to see if bugs occur.

Everybody has to be a coder to understand your plugin, or sure kill lot of free time, the learning curve is stiff and any average joe head admin would settle with something more ease of access.

So sami understood your plugin? We have something missing in this picture as you interpret this: Wasn't he like a head admin, wasn't he left alone when you resigned from uc leaving everything on his shoulders to deal with. He HAD to because he didn't want your work and plugin to be a waste. And I appreciate his best of ability for incorporating enthusiasm and working atmosphere to learn coding 101. 

So now, tony. I didn't had to throw any insults to you because I speak some bewildered english? Seems to me, that I didn't drop to your level to spread cringe about my abilities. And unfortunately I don't received any hate like you did the time you left uc.

Now, as I suppose tony had a blast of telling me how my Intellectual capacity is cotton balls, I propose to go back on topic and have a constructive criticism which is not repetitive about tony's plugin and this "partially" implemented one.
English level over 9000 :D ( just had to , sorry )

Offline TeeKaaY

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2015, 11:33:51 am »
Replica you do not seem to know the difference between API and algorithms. I'll leave it at that, you can use google for that.
I will simply stop because honestly, it seems that your knowledge about amxmodx and coding in general are way off course. I can't help with you that.

I simply quit. From now on, I know nothing about amxmodx nor coding nor any programming language. I shall quote George Carlin:
“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

In regards to your English. I will say this once and only once. When you are writing on these forums, you are not writing a novel, or an essay competition. You are trying to tell someone what are your thoughts, and for that someone to understand you, you use "Business English" where the words are basic so everyone can understand. You don't go all shakespeare mode on everyone.

Offline Red Wolf

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2015, 11:41:01 am »
................................. understand. You don't go all shakespeare mode on everyone.
I wonder what you mean with that?  :D
http://time.com/3990305/william-shakespeare-cannabis-marijuana-high/
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Offline Florian

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Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2015, 11:50:04 am »
Please stay on topic.

Offline TeeKaaY

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2015, 12:02:00 pm »
................................. understand. You don't go all shakespeare mode on everyone.
I wonder what you mean with that?  :D
http://time.com/3990305/william-shakespeare-cannabis-marijuana-high/

You know what I mean you piece of shit :P

Offline P o p a y

Re: A few suggestions.
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2015, 10:39:14 pm »