[JB] Mod Change - Bugs

[Andrew`]

Take your time playing and be sure to inform us about any Bugs you find at our server.

[GandElf The Gay]

>>  /mute doesn't work

[Red Wolf]

dont remove +paint , best feature ever that JB has had.

[S.T.]

THE BALL!

[HuniePop]

Minor "not really bugs, just something we've missing at the moment. These prevent us from starting some nice games/days."
Lack of ffa opportunity for ct's (whenever I as a ct try to enabled it, it shows a message telling, that I need to be a prisoner in order to enable ffa..)
Lack of /guns (With ct model changeup it's possible to drop a stack of guns, but can't do that after opening cells).


And what are your plans on /ball?

Take your time on improving the mod, I believe you will make it a GIANT!

And don't remove the model randomisation for everybody, please, that can make some nice clan war games

THE BALL!

Yeah we can't lift it 

['PL']

If you read the topic, it says bugs. Not suggestions.

Anyway:

Spoiler (hover to show)

You can play soccer like we used to back in the days with the moving entity. If the map doesn't have it, you can play something else.

Paint was mostly abused by the commander making the whole map with lines which greatly distracted attention and focus from the ct's and t's. Others uses of paint was making a line because they can't move in a line themselves. And what could be arguably the use of paint is removing the draw-a-thing game in which was either too subjective because I can see a box where somebody else can see a house. Aside of these things, paint never was used for something else.

Games that play with FFA are ultimately the most uncreative games I have ever seen, it's either give them guns put them in a place and let them kill eachother because a ct can't think of a different game. I'm talking from quantity-sake backdrops, there could be some people that improvise with FFA but in general it's just blatantly used for ct's that can't think of other games than doing ffa.

Bare in mind, /ffa in this plugin is snowball day. As /box is the one you are looking for, but box is different because you can't use guns and the knife does 8-11 damage per stab/slash. And yes, it might be a good idea to give ct's access to box like ffa but not change how /box works. However in retrospective there was a topic about removing /box rights from ct's.

I also don't like the class menu and /simon.

If anything, it restricts on what gun order you want to use. Could be a bit better if we use the old gunmenu for jailbreak where it had the autosniper(I don't know the name or version of it, but the one where autosniper was in it). For example, I don't want m16 or ak guns because If I die a better player can probably kill my teammates, so I take worse guns that don't penetrate through walls and etc.

/simon Is I assume the /commander, it has useful commands like splitting people in two teams,(that was a nightmare before where you had to glow people separately), but I see one abusive command with the math question where a prisoner loses hp. If A rebellion takes place, the simon guy can just spam questions to those who rebelled to decrease their hp to 1. And you know how easy is to kill a 1hp rebel

[HuniePop]

Bugs or not -

I would like you to post any problems you've faced until now and if you'd like you could also post your opinions for the changes as well.

So I shared my cocerns.

I almost forgot -
A CT command in /simon menu to heal prisoners after an accidental freeshot is a MUST HAVE.

PLpostinvade - Or you can tell the guy to go to the gunroom/healing room, if the warning shot is a mistake have the prisoner remind the ct about it. That is if the game that would be played revolves about taking damage by falling/drowning/DoT/gunshots

[Green.]

In some maps sometimes the guns are bugged,we cant pick up guns.
Remove mic acsess for t
Bring paint command again for cts
And bring commander menu again and  remove simon..
ps:please dont remove shop, its very nice actually.

[Navily]

First  of all the thing we can no longer stay without
is the ball and i think its a easy thing to put it back
to server.also
/mute and  /time commands no longer working
hope they get fixed
and remove ability for Ts to use mic
they use to much (including me) while cts commanding
fun menu (raffle)
jbmenu for quick access to jb stuff.

[Lester The Molester]

any idea why Ts sometimes get glowed to pink?
when we use to unglow them,they get pink glow again...
and yes remove /simon and bring back the commander menu,it was better than that one.

[Phenomenal]

any idea why Ts sometimes get glowed to pink?
when we use to unglow them,they get pink glow again...
and yes remove /simon and bring back the commander menu,it was better than that one.

Use /glow instead of /glow2 (for admins). If you wanna unglow some player, you should be an admin for that, say /glow "player" off. To remove the freeday say /unglow in chat. /simon and /commander have certain common commands, just a few are missing and I suppose we should be able to conduct proper commanding without it. The mod isn't that complicated as you are thinking it is. Although an admin would always be required to produce creative games in the jailbreak server and I do notice that an admin is always online.. I don't see any problem with this plugin replacing ultimate jailbreak one.

//EDIT:
Just tried getting the pink glow off the players and it did not work with /glow off.

[Andrew`]

22/7/2015

/ball menu is back. Not sure who has access to it though yet. The balls in some very often-used maps(like snow) have returned.
Ts can no longer hear each other on mics.
You can now self-trasnfer again to CT by pressing M, it won't kill you like before.
Amx Super Menu is back after a long time.
The fire bug has been fixed, if you touch someone he gets on fire too.

[HuniePop]

I love the few changes you've made, Andrew!

Even though I was a bit down when saw that T's mics were removed. But that's no minor problem, as I might get used to this. (I enjoyed it when all T's had mics available for easier cummunication with teammates.)

What I love the most is, that /BALL IS BACK!!!!!!
At the moment, all ct's can use this menu. I am by far the only one who actually uses it to put balls in the field whenever there's no such object or whenever it's bugged out of the field, and make custom nets (I always put those nets back in their default positions after finishing the game). So as long as you don't reconsider, that /ball must belong only to admins, this menu can make our soccer games much more entertaining!

Then, there are still some things that make a big concern -

1. Obivously, the armoryshop a.k.a gun shop menu is available for T's, and the gun abuse keeps happening every day.
2. Cell key is a major concern. It should be decided, if opening cells with cell keys leads to an instant freeday. (I say that it shouldn't be, as cell keys are not expensive at all.)
This concern is met at every map, that has 1 cell arena with 1 cell door. (Jb_cartoons, jail_dark_kampta, Jail_guetta, Jail_Dark_Kampta and many others).

Other than that - good work so far, @Andrew~ ! Keep it up

[Red Wolf]

I also want to state that if you picked up a gun or nade pervious round, you are not able to pick up a gun or nade the following round. Not sure if this hapends when you pick up a weapon or when you finish round with it.
Also, can you rethink about +paint?
As above users said: GJ, keep it up and lets hope for the best
EDIT: Also add a rule about selfing or add ctbans back (If possible)

[Plzdie3]

@gumball . You know the keys isn't that easy to purchase . In the previous mod you would get a point for every new round , when you kill a  ct , headshot.  In this mod you get a point only for killing a ct . So to buy a key which is 45 points . You would need to kill 45 ct's . Which if you ask me is not as easy as it seems . So I feel this is fair and should be kept . The shop is really interesting and is more well organised. Prices are not exorbant as in unreasonable . They are fair and seem to make earning and spending points equally balanced.

[supertomi]

@gumball . You know the keys isn't that easy to purchase . In the previous mod you would get a point for every new round , when you kill a  ct , headshot.  In this mod you get a point only for killing a ct . So to buy a key which is 45 points . You would need to kill 45 ct's . Which if you ask me is not as easy as it seems . So I feel this is fair and should be kept . The shop is really interesting and is more well organised. Prices are not exorbant as in unreasonable . They are fair and seem to make earning and spending points equally balanced.

You can easily collect them in a gungame day

[Plzdie3]

@gumball . You know the keys isn't that easy to purchase . In the previous mod you would get a point for every new round , when you kill a  ct , headshot.  In this mod you get a point only for killing a ct . So to buy a key which is 45 points . You would need to kill 45 ct's . Which if you ask me is not as easy as it seems . So I feel this is fair and should be kept . The shop is really interesting and is more well organised. Prices are not exorbant as in unreasonable . They are fair and seem to make earning and spending points equally balanced.

You can easily collect them in a gungame day

Which happens only on 1 day on a map ? . So say on an avg  there are 15 T which implies there would be a max of 5 ct . Supposing you manage to kill all 5 ct you earn about 5 points. This isn't that much considering the fact that it happens only once a map. Again seeing 5 people on the CT team is quite  a rare sight. Also managing to kill all 5 ct in a gunday while all your 14 other teammates have the same agenda is quite difficult .
Wait I think I might have misunderstood  what you meant by a gungame
Is it the day which is T vs T ? . If that's the case and if you get points for those kills against your teammates yes then it would pretty easy to collect those points. A solution would be to disable points for Team kills ?

[supertomi]

@gumball . You know the keys isn't that easy to purchase . In the previous mod you would get a point for every new round , when you kill a  ct , headshot.  In this mod you get a point only for killing a ct . So to buy a key which is 45 points . You would need to kill 45 ct's . Which if you ask me is not as easy as it seems . So I feel this is fair and should be kept . The shop is really interesting and is more well organised. Prices are not exorbant as in unreasonable . They are fair and seem to make earning and spending points equally balanced.

You can easily collect them in a gungame day

Which happens only on 1 day on a map ? . So say on an avg  there are 15 T which implies there would be a max of 5 ct . Supposing you manage to kill all 5 ct you earn about 5 points. This isn't that much considering the fact that it happens only once a map. Again seeing 5 people on the CT team is quite  a rare sight. Also managing to kill all 5 ct in a gunday while all your 14 other teammates have the same agenda is quite difficult .
Wait I think I might have misunderstood  what you meant by a gunday
Is it the day which is T vs T ? . If that's the case and if you get points for those kills against your teammates yes then it would pretty easy to collect those points. A solution would be to disable points for Team kills ?

gungame not gunday

[Plzdie3]

Can you be kind enough to explain what you mean by "gungame" day ? I am a bit confused here.

[HuniePop]

@gumball . You know the keys isn't that easy to purchase . In the previous mod you would get a point for every new round , when you kill a  ct , headshot.  In this mod you get a point only for killing a ct . So to buy a key which is 45 points . You would need to kill 45 ct's . Which if you ask me is not as easy as it seems . So I feel this is fair and should be kept . The shop is really interesting and is more well organised. Prices are not exorbant as in unreasonable . They are fair and seem to make earning and spending points equally balanced.

Consider this -
1. Gungame equals to tons of points, because it's also tons of kills.
2. Many people play in the server, so they all can have many points after such events, and they can waste their points for cell keys for the whole map, because it would have been totally enough from each.
Even as they are wasted, they play new gungame + rebel + ffa games for fast points.

Notice, that you respawn in gungame after each death until certain someone has passed the knife level.

You need to try this out by yourself, plzdie. Won't spoil you.