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Offline Green.

Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2015, 11:06:23 pm »
@Green15 , for the sake of our turtle friendship, please upload us pure forms of your demos (they are named as - "hacker.dem", for example). If you can playback it, we all can (mostly Jailbreak players, that also have download all adddons seen in the demo, can).
At least try uploading them at files.fm and PM them to me. I cannot understand anything while watching your avi's.

EDIT - at least you uploaded the slow - motion version, which is a much better watch. There's just one place, where I've seen a possible wallhack - at around 0:12 - 0:17, as supertomi went behind the wall. Of course, that could have been luck as well for Jon to hit the bullet right there, but in the same time - dodgy shot.

But still, green, Not only that your pure forms of demos will not lag for us, but they will also economy your time about trillions of times. Uploading these pure demo's take only few mins.
Okay here you go http://www.mediafire.com/download/bm0z9z5i95838tg/jon.dem
And take a look at Highrullah's demo https://www.mediafire.com/?r7g10j7xpp5tzd7
obviously wh :D
« Last Edit: July 17, 2015, 11:18:53 pm by Green15 »
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Offline HuniePop

Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2015, 12:15:01 am »
Thank you, Green, billion times better viewing!

Now, about your demo..

It's hard to judge.

1. He wasn't aiming at the rectangle all the time though (could have been an acting attempt), so WH couldn't be THAT. obvious. BUT, he was tracking the directions of supertomi's pre-movements, which was pretty much a lot of pre-aim. Pretty much he was always waiting for supetomi to come out from a wall known to him EVERY SINGLE TIME.
2. The most suspicious part at 0:12 - 0:15, where Joni hit Supertomi right at the rectangle even though Supertomi was behind the wall. Some might consider it as a lucky guess, but I suppose that luck does not usually go THAT far.
3. What also makes Joni guilty is, that normally NO jailbreak players focus THAT much on killing and owning. We usually lose common sense in a fun mod (specially me, as I end up talking about cucumbers and gays :D ) But that loss of the common sense - FOR THE SAKE OF FUN!

Judging Highrulla's demo -
I'm confused.
1. Could have been wh, but I've seen many players in DD2 awp'ing just like that, most of them being considered clean (specially the guys managing to get many kills with a short-space mid shot). Could have been prediction, though, which, I guess, is more likely an excuse to very experienced CS players. Dunno if Joni is the one.

Judging the SS at the moment of ban -
1. Consider wallhack working even when spectating. We've seen his SS of the ban when he was banned for WH in public or d2 back in December 2014. THAT SS shows the kind of a WH, that allows player to see a player model through a wall. You could see that at the double door region.

Now, his recent SS might seem clean. But what if it is only because none of the player models were behind any walls? Or maybe Joni is one of those cheaters who constantly turns wh on or off, for the sake of SS to be clean or whenever he knows that admin is tracking him.

Another proof for the WH -
I had an argument with few ambrosians about Supergeent using wh many months ago. I defended him after watching Ultor's demo's, as I was wrongly judging the recordings of a VERY experienced and VERY respectable both DD2 and JB player (Cheers, Ultor) but at the end of it all supergeent admited, that he wallhacked.
He was using awp during the demo. His kills were very similiar to Joni's (in Highrulla's demo).


I have played CS for many years, but only recently I've become very cautious about deciding whoever had WH and who had not.

My final decision - Sorry, jonigameworld, but in my opinion - YOU ARE GUILTY!

Good luck.

Offline jonigameworld

Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2015, 12:22:28 am »
3. What also makes Joni guilty is, that normally NO jailbreak players focus THAT much on killing and owning. We usually lose common sense in a fun mod (specially me, as I end up talking about cucumbers and gays :D ) But that loss of the common sense - FOR THE SAKE OF FUN!.

Im not a full time JB i used to have my own DD2 and Deathmatch server.

Still, everybody can express so... nice list, i guess.


(Now, his recent SS might seem clean. But what if it is only because none of the player models were behind any walls? Or maybe Joni is one of those cheaters who constantly turns wh on or off, for the sake of SS to be clean or whenever he knows that admin is tracking him.) I had no idea someone was tracking me i got banned nextmap, and I was dead the whole round because i accidentaly pressed M so there's that.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2015, 12:36:04 am by jonigameworld »


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Offline Hajrulla

Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2015, 02:02:36 am »
Awping in dd2? There is a lot of difference with dd2 and inferno.

First of all, he acts stupid and keeps checking everyplace, that is a reason that he is wallhacking. Then while he moves towards the bombsite, climbing by the stairs he aims at the middle of packets with his deagle but doesn't want to make it obvious so he goes all around and decides to take the guy out with his deagle.

Second, funny how he keeps zoming with awp everytime a CT spawns up, then after he kills them and his HP gets lower he decides to camp on the packets where he killed the last guy. It was obvious that he saw the last ct through his wallhack and didn't want to get killed or lose his awp so he decides just to wait there. So, I transfer myself CT and I decide to "zoom out" because I don't have esp just to show you that there is a guy over there, no sound or anything he just waits for him but he doesn't come out so other T take him out.

Third, my bad that I didn't record more just because he is same nationality as me. And he is completely ignoring me in this case so this is why he is wallhacking. I don't know how to explain anymore, you decide.

Thank you!

P.S : JONI JUST GET OVER IT BRUUUUUH, u got busted.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2015, 02:22:37 am by Highrullah »



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Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2015, 04:42:38 am »
Well buddy you are the last one who needs to talk about insulting .... Supertomi was behaving really rude with me so why should i be polite with him lol ?
I always have been nice with supertomi ,but yesterday he revealed the true face, they were playing and the time was 7:55 5 sec after opening the cell door and i revived my self,after that supertomi complained for reviving my self.. i always have been reviving peoples when they  asked me then after that , i choosed him to die , the commander typed a question and from then supertomi kept insulting me with razzi saying bullshits like admins are ebola and other things like swearing at me etc..So why should i be nice with him when he is rude with me?
Lol the last demo doesnt mean anything to you guys?
obviously  he was trying to get his head behind wall :) so anyway let the unban panel choose
Thanks
PS:Yea btw check logs and see everything that supertomi and razzi said to me :)

The reason you shouldn't be rude is that you are an admin. If you depict such behavior what are you going to expect from others
Being an admin you should be tactful and have a different approach for solving it
Any random prisoner is impolite to you and you start swearing at him too; gg then, just gg

Thanks for uploading the original file, will watch it now

Offline Razzi

Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2015, 01:15:46 pm »
In my POV.. Maybe he might of cheated but:

That JB demo was kind of an aim_map situation / scenario since you have to keep moving and keep track. You'll have to pre a lot and predict the opponent.
Now, perhaps he ain't a full on JB player. Lets not assume that so quickly since everyone isn't the same, i am not a 100% JB player when it comes to shooting, i use my previous skills that i learnt. He might of not taken it less serious but tried to kill supertomi. What is really typical is you all depend on ESP, if the esp is showing that hes aiming correctly, oh damn hes Wallhack.

However, who knows i might be wrong.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2015, 01:22:27 pm by Razzi »

Offline Ultor

Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2015, 03:08:04 pm »
Here is another demo: https://www.mediafire.com/?72hr9f5v56cmd11

On the demo, you can see how he keeps his aim on the CT.

Offline X-KilleR

Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2015, 06:52:44 pm »
fill the correct form or this will be denied

Offline jonigameworld

Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2015, 07:41:46 pm »
fill the correct form or this will be denied

@X-KilleR , edited the original post.


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Offline X-KilleR

Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2015, 04:16:55 pm »
green please upload the demo in *.dem extension, and upload only most important, cuz only the first has 176 mb !!! sorry but who will watch a demo of 175 mb? you forget to add director executive Green at the end ,and ambrosia Pictures at the start !

Offline Hajrulla

Re: Banned ;)
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2015, 04:48:13 pm »
X-Killer, I guess my demo and Chaka's demo provides more than enough information...

Offline X-KilleR

[CS 1.6] Unban Request - Jon (JB) [UNBAN PANEL Nr.221]
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2015, 12:51:41 pm »
X-Killer, I guess my demo and Chaka's demo provides more than enough information...

i know, already checked

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Offline X-KilleR

[UNBANNED][CS 1.6] Unban Request - Jon (JB) [UNBAN PANEL Nr.221]
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2015, 02:01:54 pm »
SS clean
Demo clean, no direct evidence of wh

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