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Offline Ray

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Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2015, 02:27:23 am »
Let's stay on-topic here guys....
Let's just wait for Ultor to post his demo about this :)

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Offline Cowboy

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2015, 06:39:16 pm »
this is taking ages..., @Ultor can you harry up??? ::)
you already checked the topic and u were playing.. comon no need to waste time.

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Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2015, 06:46:18 pm »
this is taking ages..., @Ultor can you harry up??? ::)
you already checked the topic and u were playing.. comon no need to waste time.
He has 48 hours to post demo else you would be unbanned.
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Offline Ultor

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2015, 06:51:24 pm »
Sorry about the late reply, been busy.

First of all, I did not know he was an admin, last time I seen his name was a member status. As for the ban, I already had 3 suspicious demos but unfortunately, as I reinstalled my cs I've lost them all. Now, the demo I recorded yesterday was meant to be an addition to the other 3 demos, I wouldnt ban based on 1 demo.

Cowboy, I execute the command +jump on everyone who appear to be suspicious to me, not just you- so this thing of 'hate' you're talking about is completely invalid.

As for the demo, I was guiding the T who escaped through the use of private message. What I found really suspicious at the beginning of the demo was how Cowboy kept his view on the missing T. You can see how he was prepared to kill the T as he was predicating that he was gonna open the door. The T did show and Cowboy failed to kill him, so he ran to the maze, and as you can see, the way he moved his crosshair just when he turned was really dodgy for me- it appeared like he was just waiting for him to show his face, he didnt even check his right side near the ladder. When the T did show is position, Cowboy tried to wallbang, and then kept his aim on the same place for around 2 seconds, then completely ignored his back- its like he was sure that the T went somewhere else. As you can see from his gameplay, Cowboy is is acting smart, he wouldnt go directly to the T. As Cowboy goes back to the cells area, he quickly rushs the other door, the T was hiding near the trampoline- Cowboy took a peek at his place and then went back to the cage area. Once his teammate was killed, he quickly goes to the roof, notice how the first thing he checked was the trampoline- he didnt see his teammates body or the gun apparently. It is weird how he took a peek at the ships- if he was using his radar, the he would be sure that the T would around the KZ. If you look closely at his crosshair, you can see that just after he dashed out from the roof, he aims on top of the wall, not the trees- to me it appears that his eyes were focussing on the T's location, he was telling himself "Ok, how can I get this T without showing my wallhack?".  After that, Cowboy shoots most of the trees near the KZ- again, trying to act smart even though he missed 3 trees over there. Notice how he stayed close to the trampoline area just in case that T tries to escape. As we move on, Cowboy progress into checking the other trees near the trampline now- however, what you notice from the demo is that he spends more time shooting more bullets on each tree even though he still missed 2 of them near the obstacle race. This was his plan of getting close to the T by shooting what appears possible places for the spectators. Note: he was doing all this without knowing the position of his teammate's body and gun. He then aims directly at the body and speaking on his mic says something like "ohh its the body" (didnt understand him properly). Now at this stage, it would only be obvious that the T is hiding somewhere near the trampoline. Just before Striker came out, Cowboy wanted to take a closer peek, hoping some part of the hidden T would show by going to the right side on top of the roof. Unfortunately nothing showed for Cowboy. He was having a hard time killing this T without being too obvious with his wallhack. I wish if that T followed what I said and kept hiding there, I wonder what Cowboy would have done to get there  ::)

Other things that I found suspicious:-

1. How he checks unrelavent areas of the hidden T-  checking the vent near Wipeout, going to the maze after that.
2. How he panics everytime he comes in contact with the missing T- e.g. look at how he nearly fell from the ladders, continuously failing to climb a ladder around the cage. A newbie can easily do that.
3. How he completely ignored the missing T and leaving his teammate outside alone after coming back from the roof to the cage.

Demo: (rar format) https://www.mediafire.com/?j585toibeueuj90 (raw file) https://www.mediafire.com/?dw11iiivqsznng3
How to play the demo: join jailbreak server, type viewdemo Cowboy. Use the motion controls to check the validity of my analysis.

I request someone experienced in jailbreak to deal with this unban request rather than Dust2/Public players.

Offline 'PL'

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2015, 07:07:48 pm »
If watching in slow motion, I kind of see some weird crosshair placement with the combination of xspec. Anywho, I suppose we can wait on more opinions, I'll edit my post in what I think later. Supposing it goes unlocked for 4-5 hours.

Offline WILLIE

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2015, 07:22:13 pm »
Well it is wallhack if you ask me, he keeps watching the same area waiting for him to show up, didnt even check the rest of the map.

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Offline Frank

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2015, 07:36:20 pm »
If you see it from a psychological side, he was really pissed off that he got banned. As far as i know him, he wouldn't even raise his voice if this happened, which is really indicates on suspicious behavior. He's in a state of denial, not only does he reject Ultor's decision and opinion, he's being quite intrusive about it, the over-exaggeration of his impulsive behavior is really abnormal for his character.

Since i really don't know much about wallhacking or how to spot one i thought i can pitch in like this, the thing i'm experienced with. I know that my opinion on this subject doesn't matter, so don't take it too seriously. (not like you would)

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Offline SouReJiaN

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2015, 07:39:15 pm »
he is clean no hacks .. watch carefully and focus

Offline Frank

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2015, 07:41:27 pm »
he is clean no hacks .. watch carefully and focus
The thing is, this doesn't work like that, you need to explain his behavior, pitch the arguments that show that he is, it's the only way to help. Saying just focus isn't really saying much.

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Offline Cowboy

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2015, 07:45:10 pm »
@Ultor , that was a nice story i really enjoyed my time while im ready what u were thinking about.

look at this ss i saw him before he hide there and before i try to wallband him.


the second one as u can see there's 2 bodys..., thats why i start checking soccer field and kz and evrything beside the trampoline..
btw there a reader... thats why i went to trampoline when my teamamate died.., if u used to play with bots thats not my fault.


and shaking the crosshair was randomly even i didn't aim at him once, PLEASE.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 07:52:57 pm by Cowboy »

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2015, 07:50:40 pm »
He seems clean.
When he was turning around , he saw the enemy!
Even I would have seen the enemy. The door is WIDE open and there is something out of place, you can see his legs. Cowboy is a skilled player so of course he saw that.
When one person escaped from the cage or wherever and was going near the trampoline, cowboy of course knew either cause of teammate contact or because he simply heard him.
(I can't hear microphone in demo). He heard the door open and he killed the guy while he was climbing the ladder cause climbing the ladder makes a lot of noise.
Cowboy probably used the radar for this one, when your teammate dies the radar shows an X, using the radar he knew the enemy would be hiding near the trampoline area, I would also know because it's simple game sense and use of radar.
When the enemy ran towards the tree, cowboy was shooting at him cause he saw him go there but as you can see when he was coming out cowboy wasn't shooting at him but way far away from him at the left side of the tree, cause he thought maybe he's hiding at that side.If he was wallhacking he would not even shoot at the left side when the enemy was coming out cause he would know.
In my opinion he's clean.
If you want to argue about this come to ts3 and we can talk.
Good luck.
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Offline X-KilleR

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2015, 08:00:27 pm »
Your appeal is being reviewed
by
Ambrosia Unban Panel
Your case number is: [216]
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 11:05:00 pm by X-KilleR »

Offline Ultor

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: CLAIMABLE]
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2015, 08:11:47 pm »
Your appeal is being reviewed
by
Ambrosia Unban Panel
Your case number is: [216]

I did request this to be reviewed by an experienced JB player...

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I request someone experienced in jailbreak to deal with this unban request rather than Dust2/Public players.

@Cowboy You're not even explaining properly. The first screenshot is not relevant, at that stage, re-read my post for my analysis. As for the second screenshot, you did not see the body and this was proven later in the demo by you saying "ohh its the body"- so at this stage your eyes still did not spot the bodies neither the gun. As for the radar, there are many things that prove you did not use it. For example, why did you aim at the ships when you were on the roof? The third screenshot, your what you call "shaking aim" was not random, your eyes were on the hidden T not your crosshair. Experienced players keep their eyes on their crosshair, therefore the crosshair should be on everything you suspect. You're not even justifying your action, you just taken 3 random screenshots out of a 100.

Offline Cowboy

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2015, 08:25:12 pm »
you talking like u are sure like u were playing with me in the same room.. lol.
mby u are blind and u need glasses (no offense) , i dont know how u didnt see the first guy in the first screenshot, and about the second screenshot i saw the body's+ radar... thats enough to let me check everything beside the trampoline.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 08:26:47 pm by Cowboy »

Offline Ultor

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2015, 08:35:06 pm »
you talking like u are sure like u were playing with me in the same room.. lol.
mby u are blind and u need glasses (no offense) , i dont know how u didnt see the first guy in the first screenshot, and about the second screenshot i saw the body's+ radar... thats enough to let me check everything beside the trampoline.

You have some reading issues. You need to read both of my posts carefully.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 08:38:38 pm by Ultor »

Offline Cowboy

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2015, 08:40:35 pm »
you talking like u are sure like u were playing with me in the same room.. lol.
mby u are blind and u need glasses (no offense) , i dont know how u didnt see the first guy in the first screenshot, and about the second screenshot i saw the body's+ radar... thats enough to let me check everything beside the trampoline.

You have some reading issues. You need to read my both of my posts carefully.
you are using ur brain in bad ways that's why u thinking i'm using hacks, mr imagination, imagining things that never happened. u have a problem in ur brain thinking that most of the good players are using hacks. check out how many players got ban from u for "wh" while they are clean. anyway lets wait for highstaff.

Offline [C]asperTheOG

Re: Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2015, 09:03:08 pm »
Its 100% clean i don't see anything makes him wallhacker i checked it many times and properly when he saw ct body next to the trampoline he knew that the rebeller is over there.

Offline Jihad

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2015, 09:14:33 pm »
as buddy said  hes clean any one could see the t
and cowboy is a skilled and pro player even the bot can see the door is wide dude
doesn't explain the ss that hes using any kind of cheats
HE IS CLEAN FFS
and mr ultor you can put your philosophate away.

that's it and he's clear every body knows it.
the end of the story

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Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2015, 09:22:33 pm »
as buddy said  hes clean any one could see the t
and cowboy is a skilled and pro player even the bot can see the door is wide dude
doesn't explain the ss that hes using any kind of cheats
HE IS CLEAN FFS
and mr ultor you can put your philosophate away.

that's it and he's clear every body knows it.
the end of the story
There's a panelist checking the case for this. It's not your job to tell ultor what to do.
Ultor did his job and he's saying what his opinion about it.
And it's not yours to judge if it's the end of the story or not.
So please, if you want to give your opinion, you're free to do that, but you can ONLY DO THAT and nothing else.
Respect the admin team as they are trying to help the server.

Cheers,
Ray

Offline Cowboy

Re: [CS 1.6]Unban Request - Cowboy (Jailbreak) [Judge: X]
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2015, 09:23:44 pm »
Well it is wallhack if you ask me, he keeps watching the same area waiting for him to show up, didnt even check the rest of the map.

aha, just one thing haters gonna hate.
just wanna note this, we fighted before half a year that's why u came here and said "yes he is wallhacking", if you are experience in smth dont talk about it please.
thanks Andrew for telling me to post this almost forgot it.


as buddy said  hes clean any one could see the t
and cowboy is a skilled and pro player even the bot can see the door is wide dude
doesn't explain the ss that hes using any kind of cheats
HE IS CLEAN FFS
and mr ultor you can put your philosophate away.

that's it and he's clear every body knows it.
the end of the story
There's a panelist checking the case for this. It's not your job to tell ultor what to do.
Ultor did his job and he's saying what his opinion about it.
And it's not yours to judge if it's the end of the story or not.
So please, if you want to give your opinion, you're free to do that, but you can ONLY DO THAT and nothing else.
Respect the admin team as they are trying to help the server.

Cheers,
Ray

helping the server while hes banning another admin, helping the server while hes imagining things that never happened?? wow.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 09:29:02 pm by Cowboy »