[DENIED][CS] Unban Request - Crusher(Jailbreak) [Judge: Andrew~]

[Pim]

Well I was really schoked when I saw crusher being banned for wallhacking. Pretty much as schoked, as when supergeent was.
I will watch the demos later, when I get home.

Well, supergeent admitted heb did wallhack

[cRu$HeR]

he did admit that he wallhacked but , should i lie and say i wallhacked
im telling the truth and im not lying about anything i didnt hack and i will never hack , mate i have antihack cs not even 1 hack works ... even the spray doesnt work there

[BuddyTrollsten]

Without reading anything given above except for the demo upload post , I would like to say
Crusher is using wallhacks.
I watched till demo3 I think so , and It's enough to confirm that he uses wallhacks.

Demo 1 : JB_snow - Okay so your play style is while looking down , I can understand that many people do that cause it gives a FPS boost , but you never mentioned that so let's assume that it's just your normal playstyle , but I doubt any L3G1T player has a playstyle of looking at enemies through wall , you were constantly looking at people through wall , the first person that walked out , you timed it so perfect  , that the amount of perfection there just shows you're wallhacking , you were also keeping most players in your monitor screen.

Demo 2 : Same thing.

Demo 3 : JB_arma something- Started off normal but then when the first guy came you scoped EXACTLY before he came in , and you shot him down , then scoped again for 2nd enemy but since there was no 3rd enemy you never scoped the 3rd time , when a person was hiding behind the little walls in vehicle race area , you scoped there and then you went there , you kept the person in your monitor then after 'fake checking' the area you turned around and aimed again EXACTLY at the place where he was , no up , not down , not left , not right , just exactly.
Cell area , you didn't check the cells , but you wanted to check the last cell , but the second your teammate killed him you just jumped down assuming there is no one left in any of the cells.

I'm pretty sure you were wallhacking , I will watch the other demos later , but for now I can confirm it is wallhack or just some crazy luck timing which shouldn't happened every second of the game.

Wallhacks.

[cRu$HeR]

not wallhacking ---- im talking to walls , how many years each of u played this game ?
next month im 19 years old .. so i've been playing this game since 2004 / 2005 , when old communities where there ..

and tell me do i really need to scope every where to see closer ? , i need to see the whole area u know , aiming before they open the door ?? yea sure i did that , who in earth doesnt do that , when he know's that they will come from there ??

if i was faking checking every room , i would not have came back to the same room ( because i dont use hacks / cheats )

i really dont care u want me to stay banned go ahead see if i care .. im done .. starting to get pissed off every one lie's ..

and Ps : take in mind that not every one have the same scope style .. and the same playing style .

[Red Mist]

It is better to admit that you cheated rather giving stupid reasons like a 4 year old

[Pim]

It is better to admit that you cheated rather giving stupid reasons like a 4 year old

It's better to comment about the demo than to take conclusions while you should not.

[BuddyTrollsten]

Crushing we are not telling lies , we are telling are conclusions based on the demo.
Oh and you have a NONSTEAM Anti-Cheat CS 1.6? huh.
That sounds L3G1T.

Admit it and make it easier for yourself or keep this going , upto you.

[cRu$HeR]

Crushing we are not telling lies , we are telling are conclusions based on the demo.
Oh and you have a NONSTEAM Anti-Cheat CS 1.6? huh.
That sounds L3G1T.

Admit it and make it easier for yourself or keep this going , upto you.

Man admit that im hacking ?? and lie ?
im not hacking and im not lying

yea idk what its called but its nonsteam anticheat cs or something ..

if u want me to lie i will say im hacking , but why lying ?

[BuddyTrollsten]

Crushing we are not telling lies , we are telling are conclusions based on the demo.
Oh and you have a NONSTEAM Anti-Cheat CS 1.6? huh.
That sounds L3G1T.

Admit it and make it easier for yourself or keep this going , upto you.

Man admit that im hacking ?? and lie ?
im not hacking and im not lying

yea idk what its called but its nonsteam anticheat cs or something ..

if u want me to lie i will say im hacking , but why lying ?

I just googled your fairy tail , there seems to be one client but it runs at a very old protocol , so there is no way you could play any current servers (of ambrosia) atleast with it.
And hey!
You're already lying but not admitting , so just tell the truth .

[cRu$HeR]

you forgot about the patches buddy , go search for that ...

[BuddyTrollsten]

Don't the patches replace files?

[Red Wolf]

Or maybe it is UCP (Ultra Core Protector). Stop arguing for silly things. This doesnt make a difference at all.

[cRu$HeR]

maybe its UCP idk but the patch doesnt replace all files , the patch add's the new files and replace old version files , the anti hacker or what ever its called doesnt get removed

ok im waiting for the unban panel or the moderators to see it off the spam xD

[Tarzan of Titanic]

Watched the demos.
Dodgy stuff -
The beginning of 1st demo - 2nd kill and 2nd /  3rd shot, somewhere between that, and few of the further kills later on.
AWPing in armageddon in space at that door was suspicious.
The kill on prototype at surf was uber suspicious. At the demo I never saw proto running to surf in the first place, and you never actually left surf until you killed him.
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Demo 6
Clean just after running away from striker.
Got suspicious at the moment you killed him. About the prefire.... I did not really hear any steps from striker, so... suspicious.
Demo 7
Might be a coincidence, might be not. Suspicious part was, when he saw the cell full of prisoners, like he went exactly there. Wallbang was fine there, but that check beforehand was dodgy.



So, final opinion of mine -
There are only few players insanely pro at CS 1.6. But you (formally everyone) just don't use skill at Jailbreak, you play for fun and are creative when being a CT.
So the only coincidence for such dodgy stuff would be a use of cheats.

I am sorry, crusher, but my decision is - you used wh.

And I should know, I have played at ddust2 only and public servers of different communities for long time, so I know what I'm judging here. I have learned about how to catch cheaters in there, and good job by Jailbreak admins to do cheater hunting here.

[Pringles]

Obvious wallhack.

[Fisu]

We've got three things to consider here, to everyone that is jumping to the conclusion that he's hacking.

First:
- Cheaters can be seen in 3 ways.
1. The blatant 11 years olds, they don't care about admins/Dont know they exist, just keep on getting banned. They use aim/Speed/WH/Godknowswhathacks.
2. The a bit smarter cheaters, using only aimbot or only wallhack, but doing that so obvious that it's easy to ban them.
3. The smart guys, turning off/on toggling the cheat. Or let's say, "playing stupid" to make the admin think he's clean.

Second:
- @cRu$HeR Dude, for me you're admitting that ur cheating from the beginning on. You're saying, if I would cheat why would I check that place?. It's like you found something to say, once u get banned, obviously u woulden't simply go kill the ct rebeller at that place where he is, before checking other spots to be able to kill him, to make it all look like u "accedently found him".

- Your movments are just not there movements I would expect from a player, that checks those cells, and finally can kill those rebellers that way you did. I simply don't. You're arguements, aren't really believable for me or for some others here.

Third: Now I ain't the best detecter for wallhack, this could of been also knowledge of the game, checking each single place and finally find the rebellers. I personally could of been banned much time ago in HnS days, I kept on wallbanging as it was seriously easy to know where they would hide, which caused me to preaim 80% to the right place. this is WHY I kept recording myself on a mode like JB, Zombie, AIM-Maps etc.

However, for me this demos do show a sign that you might be walling.

Good Luck.

[cRu$HeR]

We've got three things to consider here, to everyone that is jumping to the conclusion that he's hacking.

First:
- Cheaters can be seen in 3 ways.
1. The blatant 11 years olds, they don't care about admins/Dont know they exist, just keep on getting banned. They use aim/Speed/WH/Godknowswhathacks.
2. The a bit smarter cheaters, using only aimbot or only wallhack, but doing that so obvious that it's easy to ban them.
3. The smart guys, turning off/on toggling the cheat. Or let's say, "playing stupid" to make the admin think he's clean.

Second:
- @cRu$HeR Dude, for me you're admitting that ur cheating from the beginning on. You're saying, if I would cheat why would I check that place?. It's like you found something to say, once u get banned, obviously u woulden't simply go kill the ct rebeller at that place where he is, before checking other spots to be able to kill him, to make it all look like u "accedently found him".

- Your movments are just not there movements I would expect from a player, that checks those cells, and finally can kill those rebellers that way you did. I simply don't. You're arguements, aren't really believable for me or for some others here.

Third: Now I ain't the best detecter for wallhack, this could of been also knowledge of the game, checking each single place and finally find the rebellers. I personally could of been banned much time ago in HnS days, I kept on wallbanging as it was seriously easy to know where they would hide, which caused me to preaim 80% to the right place. this is WHY I kept recording myself on a mode like JB, Zombie, AIM-Maps etc.

However, for me this demos do show a sign that you might be walling.

Good Luck.

i really cant belive that u got that ..
i used to cheat with my friends and ik what is the feeling like to use hacks in any kind .. but i never used them again it was 5 years or 6 years ago i havent used a cheat even against hackers ... ( untill i found the anticheat to help me quit the hacks ...
i might be wh but im not ..
so yea im still waiting for the unban panel or the forum moderator or even Andrew~ to decide either im still banned or not ..

and 1 more thing before i go . can anyone tell me if i got banned in cs1.6 , do i get banned in every single server like in cs:go and gmod pm me for the answer and thanks ....

[supertomi]

SS clean, but demos not... You can see the obvious wallhack in the first demo specially in the begin of the demo..
Good luck man... 

[Andrew`]

After looking at the demos and a lot of thinking I'll unfortunately have to agree the facts show that you did wallhack. You could say it's just skills but some moments were too obvious to be "just skills". You also mentioned you have cheated before AND there's a ban history on you for breaking rules before so you could've done this now as well.

Therefore, your unban request has been DENIED.

You will have another chance to make another unban request in 6 months, which is 3rd of October 2015. Any attempts to ask for an unban before that time may get this limitation extended and you will be warned.