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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2015, 12:33:32 am »
Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?


I don't believe in any deity of any form that is the reason of the origin of the world and humankind.

My reasoning of why I cease to utilize a belief system is because I don't need a "Being" to tell me ethical and moral values which are just shadows of psychological and emotional pressure. And in the Modern age, almost every phenomenon (be it paranormal or "difficult to attain a ontological mechanism for it") has been explained whose people that explained have been accepted as noted in thousands of student books that you forget and never need to remind yourself of. The teachers who you despise so much give you knowledge beyond recognition because in the modern age they don't use some "GOD" to tell you that Grass Grows because of him. Compare that to other periods of history where teachers were forcefully told to put "him" everywhere.
The problem with a belief system is that the followers cannot stop themselves from using it any public place where you are suppose to respect everybody, however conversations and dialogs always include it somewhere that implicates they are poor in language or couldn't bother themselves to sit more in front of a book.

Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)

I don't believe in any Religion, I have a certain "difficult" to elaborate philosophy composed of Satanical and (Mostly) Nihilistic ideas. In (LaVeyan) satanism they don't tell you that a being is responsible for your creation and the world, they tell you that you shouldn't pray to somebody for your sins and crimes and try to get them forgiven. Better yet, You are the one who has to do something, you are the one who has to make your life good. Not wait for a being to judge how much you prayed to him. The Nihilistic part is rather more dominant in my philosophy and it tells that you don't need to or you can't understand the universe at this moment because it's just there for no reason.

What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?

Science is nice, and It would be funny if you try to link Science with Religion when they both contradict each other.

Any other additional information ?
Yes, I love Octopuses and Spaghetti Monsters

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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2015, 12:36:39 am »
Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?

I will take a general but also a personal approach on this one. Basically what i honestly think.

People find the need to believe that there is a "God" for many reasons but their believe in "God" comes also by the influence of people and environment around.

- The idea that there might be someone up there who looks after us every second , just thinking about this puts a big smile on our face (makes us happy) & makes us feel protected.
- When we feel hopeless about a particolar problem & we think that only a miracle can save us but also because we find it easier to pray then to do something actually ourself.
- Being afraid of death and instead of thinking that when we die we will simply dissapper like we never existed , we think that there is a god and after death we will go to a better place.
- Being raised in a religious family

I simply listed some a few reasons but they are a lot.

If you decribe/think that "God" is such great & loves us so much , then where is he when:

- Little kids are getting raped & killed
- Kids starving for food
- Kids abbandoned on the streets
- Homeless people suffering every single day
- There is so much sickness , poverty , death & violence.

You know what i hate most?
When i pass an exam and people tell me it was gods will or it was writen whatever. I would say no it wasn't gods will nor it was writen , it was me. I studied my ass off for 6 months straight that's why i passed. Lets see if i go to exam without touching a single book & say its god will and i will pass , that doesn't make sense right.

There was a news that i read a while ago about a little girl born deaf and her hearing was restored after implenting an aparature inside her ear. Everybody was saying that its a miracle , thats so fucking dumb. Its not a miracle , its simply a scientist who dedicated all his life to make this aparature available.

Conclusion:
There isn't any god or atleast not as the religions decribe him & if there is , he doesn't do sh*t.


Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)
I don't/wont ever follow/believe in any religion , honestly i find all of them rubbish (no offense , just my opinion). No war in the world has killed more people then religions & continues to do so.


What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science?
Science = Facts , Religion = Fairy tales. I also belive that it will come the time when everything will be explained (by science).


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You only live once , stop living by religions. Believe in yourself & you'll archive great things. In the end is the only thing that matters :)
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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2015, 12:38:46 am »
I would kindly like to request everyone to keep this topic with posts regarding the main post's form and no more. Going deeper in eachother replies won't get anyone anywhere.

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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2015, 03:08:30 am »
Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?  Yes as i have all my life

Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) ISLAM.  Well since i was a child my parents have brought me up into a family believing in god and im so grateful that they did.  Ive studied my own religion well , met a bunch of of scholars with alot of knowledge , so i guess i know my religion well  ;D

What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?  In the Qur'an they're have been quite a lot of things which were stated 1400 years ago and scientists have discovered recently , for example  the Qur'an says that a new born  star looks like a rose and scientists have recently discovered this. Please correct me if im wrong.

Any other additional information ? I respect people like @Konvict  and the others who have their own view of life and god  ;D
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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2015, 04:37:09 am »
Do you believe in "God"? Why? Science.
Do you believe in any religion? (If yes, what religion?) Why? (example: my parents believe in the same religion as me): Most of my British family members are Christians, but I'm not religious at all.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science? I highly doubt it, but if they can prove it then I'll believe it.
Any other additional information? As someone mentioned above, I believe that religion was created to keep order. I also believe that religion is one of the few factors that has caused conflict for decades, I don't usually like talking about religion because I can turn into a prick, like I know I'm a prick now but I turn into a prickly prick. I respect your beliefs but don't talk about them to me.

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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2015, 07:59:33 am »
As expected, ended with quotes and criticize other's opinions, everyone is free of what he thinks and what he believes no need for your critics, stay on topic please.

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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2015, 10:54:59 am »
We all were giving our opinions till this nutella quoted a post.

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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2015, 01:22:05 pm »
yes i believe in god and i believe in islam. why ?

Islam is a religious system begun in the seventh century by Muhammad. Muslims follow the teachings of the Qur’an and strive to keep the Five Pillars.

The Doctrine of Islam
Muslims summarize their doctrine in six articles of faith:
1. Belief in one Allah: Muslims believe Allah is one, eternal, creator, and sovereign.
2. Belief in the angels
3. Belief in the prophets: The prophets include the biblical prophets but end with Muhammad as Allah’s final prophet.
4. Belief in the revelations of Allah: Muslims accept certain portions of the Bible, such as the Torah and the Gospels. They believe the Qur'an is the preexistent, perfect word of Allah.
5. Belief in the last day of judgment and the hereafter: Everyone will be resurrected for judgment into either paradise or hell.
6. Belief in predestination: Muslims believe Allah has decreed everything that will happen. Muslims testify to Allah’s sovereignty with their frequent phrase, inshallah, meaning, “if God wills.”


The Five Pillars of Islam
These five tenets compose the framework of obedience for Muslims:
1. The testimony of faith (shahada): “la ilaha illa allah. Muhammad rasul Allah.” This means, “There is no deity but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” A person can convert to Islam by stating this creed. The shahada shows that a Muslim believes in Allah alone as deity and believes that Muhammad reveals Allah.
2. Prayer (salat): Five ritual prayers must be performed every day.
3. Giving (zakat): This almsgiving is a certain percentage given once a year.
4. Fasting (sawm): Muslims fast during Ramadan in the ninth month of the Islamic calendar. They must not eat or drink from dawn until sunset.
5. Pilgrimage (hajj): If physically and financially possible, a Muslim must make the pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia at least once. The hajj is performed in the twelfth month of the Islamic calendar.


-   In our world, religion becomes more of a shopping center where almost every person could come up with a religion or a version of a religion. It makes it hard to distinguish the true religion from the fake ones. Some have went all spiritual on the scale of spirituality. Others have gone all the way to materialism. Only Islam can gather both ends in a harmonic mixture. In Islam, Muslims are to build this earth and make it prosper be it in agriculture, industry, sciences, etc. We are ordered to protect life and property of all people who do not transgress and oppress us. We are ordered that if the day of Judgement comes and one has a plant in his hand to plant it. We are allowed to marry, have children and enjoy life.

On the other hand, we are also responsible for our actions and we will be accounted for them. We should always work for the hereafter and wish to please God our creator.

Islam is also a whole way of life. It deals with economics. It sets rules for dealings between humans and animals to dealings between humans and humans to rights of neighbors and parents to the relationship between human beings and the creator.



God in Islam is the Creator

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Most people who do not believe in God have an altered image of God. I do not believe in God who has human qualities. I do not believe in God who is born and can die. I do not believe in God who has human weaknesses. I do not believe in God who hisses and can manifest himself in his creations such as a cow. Hence, many Christians and other religious followers have doubts in their Gods and then some of them throw these doubts behind their backs and say we have faith while others just throw these doubts and refuse the idea of God.

I do believe in God who is the creator of the heavens and the earth. I believe in God who has created everything that lives. So who is God in Islam?

God describes himself in the Quran as: Allâh! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists). Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursî [1] extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayat-ul-Kursî ]

Firstly: Textual Evidence

The evidence includes the texts that came prophesying the advent of Islam and the Prophet of Islam, whether in the previous scriptures or in the Quran; the Book of Islam.

In Deuteronomy 18:18, we find that God spoke to Moses and said to him that He will raise from among their brethren a Prophet like unto him (Moses) and he (the prophet) will speak of God. In so many other places in the Bible, we will get the names of 'the Prophet' in combination with the messiah and the Baptist. This Prophet is none but Muhammad; the Prophet of Islam.

Also, he is referred to in the Bible as 'Elijah' coming from the Arabian Peninsula. There is also a reference to the light coming from the mountains of Pharan.

The textual evidence in the previous books are also referred to in the Quran in the stories of the Jews and Christians and the glad tidings given by Jesus to his people that there will be a final Prophet coming after him whose name will be Ahmad.

In Surah 3 (Aal-Imran), Almighty Allah tells us that He has taken the covenant from all prophets and messengers to believe in this final prophet who comes with the same message that is monotheism, the true message of Allah sent with all prophets and messengers.

Secondly: Logical Evidence

The very message of Jesus and his short stay on earth show that there was a need for another prophet to come settling all issues and showing complete course of guidance for all humans. This conforms with the saying of Jesus himself that he came not to initiate something new but to fulfill.

The world, before the advent of the Prophet of Islam was in a case of a total disruption and complete disorder. There were two main superpowers that engaged in a series of wars and fierce fighting, there was no place for the weak; rather, social injustice was spread everywhere and man’s condition went, in terms of morality, to alarming levels.

This unjust chaos and total disruption showed that there was a need for a religion that could re-establish order again. This was the condition of the world when Islam came with a complete social justice system, rights and equality, illumination and morality.

Thirdly: Other Evidences

There are so many other evidences that Islam is a religion of truth. Among them are the following:

The Quran is the eternal message of Islam and a timeless miracle that no one can produce the like thereof. Arabs, who were masters of linguistic excellence, could not produce the like of the shortest verse of the Quran when they were challenged to do so.
Islam calls for understanding and a deep search in one's self, in the creation of the heavens and earth and the contemplation in everything around man. Had Islam been a false religion, it would have asked man to cripple his mind and paralyze his intelligence and stop thinking about anything. (see Surahs 2:164, 6:11, and 6:95-100)
Modern science testifies to Islam; the Quran contains lots of scientific facts that were completely unknown at the time of its revelation. They were just discovered recently. This is in itself standing evidence on the truthfulness of the Quran. The Quran gives facts about the life of the fetus in its mother’s womb (23:12-14), the layers of the earth (76:2-3, 65:12), stars and planets, the fall of the rain and lots of other issues that are only known to scientists who are deep in knowledge.
There were lots of material miracles that were performed and eye-witnessed during the life-time of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). Among these miracles is the flow of water from between his fingers, the dividing of the moon into two pieces, his speech to a lizard which was able to tell that he is the messenger of Allah besides so many other miracles that were performed and eye-witnessed by his contemporaries.
These are but a few of the many evidences supporting Islam and showing that it is the eternal message of Allah and a religion of truth.


Scientific Facts in the Quran

read this http://invitetoislam.org/scientific-facts-in-the-quran/



Quran contains alot of scientific facts discovered recently

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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2015, 01:30:20 pm »
Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?

Yes I do. Because there are many proofs shows that God exist.

Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)

Yes, Me and my family we believe in the Islam religion, Why? That doesn't make sense that before 1400 years ago the people knew how many strata of the sky up there (7) or how the 2 parts of the ocean doesn't admixture or HOW many Planets up there in the space, If that big bang you talking about which made this world, then why the earth got air, and the moon doesn't, why this world have gravity and the moon or the other planets got different gravity, if that big bang made the humans, from where all these animals comes from, from where all of that water came from... etc, that's pretty much good, and there are mooooooooooooore of proofs that shows that the god (Allah) Exists, and all of that in the Quran before 1400 years. If there is something keeps us alive (air and water), something holds us down to the ground (Gravity) and 4 different seasons.. etc, then its possible that the first 2 humans were Adam and Hawwa (Don't know how to spell the name) that Adam ate that apple and Allah threw him to this planet.
There are many many many many of information about the world and more... that proofs Allah exist, As suhaib said, check this if you are interested and if you are not stay ignorant: https://www.facebook.com/notes/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%82%D9%88%D9%87-911-theyll-burn-it-911/miracles-in-quran-1400-years-agoshocking-nowdays-science/156113484401655


What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?

No i don't, the science got nothing about making this world, the science's thinking also (big bang or idk..) If they can make a world by a big bang, or at least a project like that small bang, i would be like (yeah maybe..)

Any other additional information ?

that's obvious that Allah exist, how would all of this life, all of this world and how we proliferation can be only by a big bang, how does the heart pulse, how do you move, how is the brain in the head, eyes... everything, am getting a little bit interacted, just think about it.
And for the people who are saying where is the god when we have poor people, sick people, children getting raped, why god doesn't help them? God always bless them, but you don't see that, don't you hear poor man won 10k dollars or i dont know how much, a wife put her husband's shoes in the garbage, and there were a poor women took it and there were inside a lot of money there (the wife didn't know that).. etc, Mate, for the people who are saying this, You don't know what will happen to you after 1 min, maybe i was going to get killed 10 times by people, by cars, by anything, but Allah saved me without letting me know, so just watch around you, and if god didn't bless them, they might made Allah angry by doing something really bad, and thats what they receive

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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2015, 01:45:47 pm »
Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes, because its simply the right thing to do and it explains everything which your mind can handle explaining. Like for
example, trees were made to serve all beings (Shelter , in return other beings give it what it wants (CO2, compost..etc). Human beings were made to
serve everything on this earth, God gave them a great mind that no other being has it. Look around you, look what gods gift made us create and do,
we created the Internet that makes the whole world a small village, we created smart TV's that can be used by your own bare hands, we created a lot
of things... but instead of continuing to serve others, we used it against each other, we miss-used gods well.. we made wars, we killed, we extinguished
animals/trees..etc Why is that? Because we were simply made to LOVE power and money that can buy a lot of things on the world except happiness and your judgment day... You may not notice and you could say that you're not a power hunger, but you're sometimes in situations that you don't realize because your mind started thinking that the wrong/bad things is good and its right (Actually it started with the Devil but I can't explain it here).. The way to avoid this is to be in a religion called Islam. Some of you also would say, whats God's participation in this? also how did he get created? did he create himself? Now its forbidden for us to think like this in Islam because it mostly leads to Atheism but I'm doing this because I know that I won't leave my religion, now my answer would be that our own minds can't explain it, its limited and the things that you want to think of is UNLIMITED, like so far we created things that can blown the shit out of you, yet Allah says in the quran that we will only know little about knowledge as a drop of water in a sea... Also many scientist after their inventions, they either had had went atheist or went to a religious (Mostly Islam).

Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Yes I do believe in religion, I already stated why above.

What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? The first thing that Allah said to Mohammad (When he sent him Jebra'el) in the quran  "اقرأ" and it means "read/learn", search for it for the rest of this Aya and you will know more. Allah asked mohammad to read and not to pray, not to go to Al qaeba, not to fast...etc and this was the first message in the Quran.

Any other additional information ? Ask me anything and I hope that I can answer you, I don't represent Islam in any way, I only try to help. I probably make mistakes more than a lot of you here but I still can help!
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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2015, 02:26:35 pm »
 :D

We discussed this with ReFresh already and many of you have witnessed similar discussions made by myself. I'm not going to write anything as I don't want to get involved in arguments according to this matter, can't be bothered really  :D
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Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2015, 02:46:58 pm »
    Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Not really. A lot of people feel the need to believe in a creator in order to hear what they want to hear and also because they feel the need to believe in the life after death because their current lives are not, for example, like they expected it to be. However, I'm not in this case. I used to believe in God from when I was born until last year. I currently believe in Science.

    Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) My parents believe in God (Islam) and I felt myself influenced by their beliefs and I believed that Islam was the right religion and that all those who were not believing in Islam would go to hell but last year, I took the decision to stop believing in Islam. I started to question myself about several things. The first one is : "what if my parents were not muslim ?". This question even if it might sound a bit stupid is actually the reality, the reason why most of people believe in Islam. I don't want to sound offensive since I know that at a certain age, we are able to think by ourselves and to see by ourselves if our beliefs are valid or not and that's why I stopped to believe in Islam but the fact is that most of Muslims were either born in a muslim environment (muslim parents / muslim country) or were influenced by somebody's else beliefs. The only reason why I was believing in Islam was because my parents believed too so my faith to Islam was actually big since as everyone, I respect my parents a lot so it was hard for me to question their faith but however, I still took the decision to question mine which basically led me to stop believing in Islam.

    One other thing is that in the Quran, it is clearly stated this (Quran 4:88) : "Do you wish to guide those whom Allah has sent astray? And he whom Allah sends astray - never will you find for him a way [of guidance]." and this (Quran 16:93) : "And if Allah had willed, He could have made you [of] one religion, but He causes to stray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And you will surely be questioned about what you used to do." which basically means that, according to Islam, God (=Allah) has guided some people to believe in Islam (muslim country, muslim parents) and others not to believe. This basically means that God is being unfair since according to this (Quran 8:36) : "Indeed, those who disbelieve spend their wealth to avert [people] from the way of Allah . So they will spend it; then it will be for them a [source of] regret; then they will be overcome. And those who have disbelieved - unto Hell they will be gathered.", God will punish those who will have disbelieved by putting them in Hell because he guided them not to believe.

    An other reason why I stopped to believe in Islam is the fact that in the Quran it's said that the first human beings were Adam and Eve, that the evolution is false and that God was the one who created every single thing (creationism) which is basically false in my eyes. You might think that I'm not instructed enough to talk to you about this but I'm currently attending medicine studies and we basically saw the evolution. I'm also instructed enough regarding the origin of the universe and I have read a lot of articles/books regarding it and basically, the Big Bang theory is the only theory valid in my eyes since the theory of the creation of the universe by an omnipotent individual is not valid in my eyes because our universe is in expansion.

    The only possibility I'm not totally against with is the one of a "God" who might have created the essential things in order to start the Big Bang. This would basically mean that we would not be here for no reason but this would make anyone question about the origin of "God" and how "God" was created. If you actually believe in "God", you should question yourself about the origin of the "God" you believe in because if you actually think that "God" was created randomly (according to Islam, Allah has no creator) but that our universe was however somebody's creation then why is it hard for you to believe in the theory of our universe being created randomly by an explosion (Big Bang) after the meeting of matter and anti-matter ?

    What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I have already developed my point of view regarding Science in my previous points.[/li][/list]

    Any other additional information ? Don't take this offensively nor as a way to impose my beliefs. I felt that I had to let everybody understand why I stopped believing in something I used to believe in for so long. Watch this if you want to hear somebody's else opinion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra9QQ58b7JY
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    Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
    « Reply #34 on: February 22, 2015, 02:53:30 pm »
    this video explains it all,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d16CpWp-ok

    thank me later
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    Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
    « Reply #35 on: February 22, 2015, 06:19:45 pm »
    1.Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?
    Answer)
    Yes Because after all there must be a creator (Allah S.W.T.) which created everything and equalized our needs in this earth. We are brought to this world to live and obey him as he created us. Islam is wisely made and The Holy books didn't come down to the earth like rain or something it was brought as a Revelation to the certain prophets which have been passing all through those years. Most of you misunderstand or don't even ask about it.
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    2.Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)
    Answer)
    Yes, Islam because It's the religion with most sense throughout all religions. And year by year my faith is getting stronger and better thanks god. I thank god that my parents were lead to the right path and raised me by teaching it to me.
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    3.What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?
    Answer)
    Allah S.W.T. has ordered us to Learn more and has Cautioned us not to be thinking that we understand everything so that might lead us to leave Islam and think we have enough knowledge and that is actually happening. theories such as big bang. that happened by the will of god not by nothing. When Allah says HAPPEN it HAPPENS. As mentioned in the Holy Quran [11/7] And it is He who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His Throne had been upon water - that He might test you as to which of you is best in deed. But if you say, "Indeed, you are resurrected after death," those who disbelieve will surely say, "This is not but obvious magic."
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    4.Any other additional information ?
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    Yes, Most of you consider god as a Human being or if not then as a specie. He's not. for more information read this Surah which contains only 4 sentences. http://quran.com/112
    Plus Allah knows everything, and what ever everyone does because he is the creator he watches you all the time and he knows what you are doing now [57/4] It is He who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He knows what penetrates into the earth and what emerges from it and what descends from the heaven and what ascends therein; and He is with you wherever you are. And Allah , of what you do, is Seeing.
    I won't go into deeper details.
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    Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
    « Reply #36 on: February 22, 2015, 07:59:42 pm »
    Because my last got removed, I am sorry.

    Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes I believe in Allah. Because I don't think humans come from apes, etc. Like every1 else said "who created plants, animals, etc".

    Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Islam, my parents raised me this way. Read above why ^

    What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I honestly don't know how to answer this.

    Any other additional information ?
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    Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
    « Reply #37 on: February 23, 2015, 01:13:28 am »
    I don't even need to write trillions of sentences in this.
    Whoever is not able to think off a scientific reason of world's creation and has no knownledge of the modern science at all ends up believing in god.
    End of story.

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    Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
    « Reply #38 on: February 23, 2015, 10:07:36 am »
    Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?ALLAH is my only Lord and Master; the One who revealed this scripture. He protects the righteous."
    Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion? (ISLAM ) Why? (Because the only religion approved by ALLAH is "Islam"
    What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?We believe in religion  which is "ISLAM"
    Any other additional information ?
    get close to ALLLAH first before getting close to anyone; Allah without man is still ALLAH, but a man without ALLAH is nothing

    Proud to be a muslim :)

    Re: Are you a theist or atheist ?
    « Reply #39 on: February 24, 2015, 12:40:19 am »
    Just one question, do I go to hell for not believing in "Allah"?

    Please, don't take this the wrong way, I'm just asking a question before anybody gets offended and this turns into a long ass argument.
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