Author Topic: Are you a theist or atheist ? (Read 1037 times)

Pringles · « **on:** February 21, 2015, 03:32:40 pm »

Are you a theist or atheist ?

The purpose of this thread is to let you share your beliefs to the rest of the community.

The idea of the topic came after a debate which occurred in the shoutbox between some members (including me) and I thought that it could be a good idea to see other people's point of view regarding this case.

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Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?
Any other additional information ?

Ray · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2015, 03:41:29 pm »

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? No. Because there's no actual proof God exists. I want scientific proof.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Not really.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? Yes. I believe whatever science discovers about the beginning of the world.
Any other additional information ? Religion was created as a law to keep people in peace. That's my opinion.

Red Mist · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2015, 04:10:31 pm »

Do you believe in "God" ?Nope Why ? Tricky question

Do you believe in any religion ?Nope,My family follows HinduismWhy:Concept of multiple religion is quite stupid according to me(no offense).Many of the riots and wars taking place today are due to difference in people's faith and believes
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?Nop
Any other additional information ? some extremists people(leaders) must understand that we are human beings and we must live in peace and harmony

Dr.Richtofen · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2015, 07:08:05 pm »

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?: No. The concept of an omnipotent, omnipresent omni-fuckall being is just ridiculous to me. And if it exists, why doesn't it help its own creation. It's like growing a plant and not giving a shit if its suffering of dehydration or something else.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me): I don't believe in any religion, although my family technically believes in Catholicism. No idea why, lol.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?:: Science is great and can teach you many fascinating things. Maybe there is a link between Science and Religion but I highly doubt it, but after all only time will reveal such things.
Any other additional information ?:

PAto.- · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2015, 07:13:25 pm »

Do you believe in "God" ? yes,ofc Why ? okay how many reasons you want? first of all : Just take a look of these natures. who would create these? can a human do this? Nope. Only the creator ( ALLAH) can. another thing, you. your body, lets talk about the Heart, the heart pumps 7200L of blood daily,the kidney,the eyes, my point is can a human make such things like this? nope. The universe, Atheist's say that universe was made by coincidence. so all those galaxies were made by itself.. Unbelievable.
Do you believe in any religion ?yes (If yes, what religion ?) Islam Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Islam is the religion which leads you to the heaven, why do you think america hate Islam and standing against it, because its the religion of truth. Islam isn't that hard, you just gotta follow the religion's rules.( Like praying and reading AL-Qur'an, and alot of good things)
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? yup I already mentioned them above.
Any other additional information ? thanks god that I'm muslim and arabic, cuz I'm named after the prophet Mohammed.
Believe me this is the religion of truth.

Koray · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2015, 07:36:21 pm »

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? Yes and No, Im not really deep into religion anymore, I used to be because my parents grew me up like that but after growing up people will change their minds, I do believe there is a god, and I do know that I'm making a mistake by not following it. Main reason I cant give up on religion is actually because of my family, lol.
Do you believe in any religion ? Yes(If yes, what religion ?) Islam Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) My parents are one of the reasons since I grew up with it, and if I had to choose any religion between all of them it would be Islam aswell since it IS the only religion wich will let you rest and take a break from life (by praying) wich the others besides budhism dont.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I dont really give 2 shits if they have something regarding between them, we should live our lifes as we got them and live it out.
Any other additional information ? adfsghjhgfkfdsjhfdsjhofdsaj .-.

Someone-_- · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2015, 08:19:29 pm »

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?Yes/Well there is many many reasons, but lets look for an example to the earth, and the sun, and the stars (billions and much more), and galaxies, all of them swim in the space, However, there is no clash between them, the earth revolves around the sun in its own orbit, The earth revolves around itself, consists the day and night,have we ever heard for once that the day or night didn't come at its usual time? there must be a great creator, who did all of this and more, so according to the math "The more complicated things, have a little chance to be created by accident" so yes i say there is a great god who create universe.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)yes (Islam), Well ofc the family is the main reason, but as i have stated, when i grown up i started to think about it which i found its a logic.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? I do like and accept the science/ and i do link between them as i have stated.
Any other additional information ?-

WILLIE · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2015, 08:30:17 pm »

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?: Yes i do, let me give u one reason besides the reasons written above by pato,we all know that dinosaurs used to live before human even existed right, but how do u think human were created ? they cant just appear from nothing, they all started from one man and a woman named Adam and Hawa, this simply proves that there's a god that created all this.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me)yes, it's islam i've grown up with it as i 've studied it, i find it the right one since only leads u to do good things makes u live ur life in a better way unlike the other religions i dont think any of them even makes sense to me, like taking a human being that had an ending life as a god to you, and praying in front of their imagery, that just doesnt fit in mind at all.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ?: there are scientists who turned out to become muslims due to finding out facts about the world so ye..
Any other additional information ?: i've known an american friend that recently joined islamic religion after studying enough about it, it's actually a girl that did, so maybe give it a shot and you might find some results.

Red Wolf · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2015, 09:26:50 pm »

Do you believe in "God" ? - Why ? -
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why? -
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? Totally yes
Any other additional information ? Maybe you believe there is no god, maybe you think big bang created us all. Think for a minute, replace big bang with straw. Dont we need a sparkle to make fire? Big Bang was materia, but it also needed energy to react and explode. But, do you know that energy? Maybe that is the thing some people call god, maybe we are gods of ourselves or maybe....
Why doesnt our god help us?: How do you think we have all this technology, why do you think that monkeys (or whatever that specie is) were choosen to rule the world? who choose them? who triggered big bang (or whatever created materia)? Somehow, everyone believes at something, but they just name it differently. And, how can we know that if we are stuck in 3D? What are other dimensions? Is time one of them? You may ask urself what the heck does this have to do with the topic, well, im linking religions with science
Once I saw a movie which somehow explained us. And, maybe this will answer some of your questions.

Nutella · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2015, 10:04:43 pm »

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ? No , simply because books falling from the sky , Ewa or whatever eating an apple and becoming with 2 buttcheeks and all that stuff seems so stupid to me and very hard to believe.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) I was a muslim when i was young because my family was so.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? Whatever science says , i believe in.
Any other additional information ? - To people saying Adam and Ewa or whatever were the first 2 humans to live on earth and our origin is them.

People come from apes , read biology. Even if Adam and Ewa were the first 2 , lets say they had 4 kids or even more , did they have sex with each other to keep the line going ? Since that seems very unbeliavable to me , and kinda perv.

About the Earth not clashing in the sun, it's called Gravity , read Physics.

If God actually existed , why do you have to bow and pray to him 5 times a day , what is the need of this? Why do human have to starve , die by hunger or thirst? Why is there cancer ? Why does a 12 year old kid get sick of cancer ? Why is a baby abandoned on a trash can ? Even if there is a god , to me he seems either very stupid or he hates us a lot for doing such things to us.

This makes more sense to me , and explains my thoughts :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo

CoiNNN · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2015, 10:18:50 pm »

Do you believe in "God" ? Why ?: Yes, who wouldn't? I believe in great Allah.
Do you believe in any religion ? (If yes, what religion ?) Why (example : my parents believe in the same religion as me) Muslim, most realistic.
What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? They say there is no god in this world, they say there is no hell or heaven in this world. Yet, I still am confused to understand why some people believe this. Think about it once more, all of our senses are perfect, imagine if our smell was bait more? We would be able to smell every little thing which would be disturbing. Imagine our eye sight, if we can see more, it would not be nice for the nature of the human vision. Imagine we can hear more? We would hear every little thing that goes on which we won't be able to sleep. Everything is nearly as perfect for a human, well was this all a coincidence? NO obviously not, not too many things can be coincidence can it.
Imagine the world, the ozone layer, if there was non, humans would be dead but how comes there is?

There have been many people which die and come back to life in minutes/hours, many quotes show that they have seen someone whilst dead showing them a route or so to hell / heaven. I guess they are all lying then? NO.

Any other additional information ?

Nutella · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2015, 10:20:56 pm »

Quote from: CoiN # on February 21, 2015, 10:18:50 pm

What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? They say there is no god in this world, they say there is no hell or heaven in this world. Yet, I still am confused to understand why some people believe this. Think about it once more, all of our senses are perfect, imagine if our smell was bait more? We would be able to smell every little thing which would be disturbing. Imagine our eye sight, if we can see more, it would not be nice for the nature of the human vision. Imagine we can hear more? We would hear every little thing that goes on which we won't be able to sleep. Everything is nearly as perfect for a human, well was this all a coincidence? NO obviously not, not too many things can be coincidence can it.
Imagine the world, the ozone layer, if there was non, humans would be dead but how comes there is?

Any other additional information ?

I'm sorry for breaking the topic , but this seems non-sense to me. How do you know our senses are perfect ? Does any living human have these "abilities" and say they are bad? No , since no such human exists , and therefore we cannnot know if it is better or not. Think about it..

X-KilleR · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2015, 10:34:45 pm »

the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...

Nutella · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2015, 10:40:25 pm »

Quote from: X-KilleR on February 21, 2015, 10:34:45 pm

the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...

Alright , let's assume God created all this that we see , but then the question comes , who created God ?

X-KilleR · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2015, 10:50:36 pm »

Quote from: Nutella a.k.a Grimzy on February 21, 2015, 10:40:25 pm

Quote from: X-KilleR on February 21, 2015, 10:34:45 pm
the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...

Alright , let's assume God created all this that we see , but then the question comes , who created God ?

Then WHO created the creator of god? When will you stop? I can say too WHO created thé creator of the creator of god?! you will always find only one at the end

Red Wolf · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:02:14 pm »

Quote from: X-KilleR on February 21, 2015, 10:50:36 pm

Quote from: Nutella a.k.a Grimzy on February 21, 2015, 10:40:25 pm
Quote from: X-KilleR on February 21, 2015, 10:34:45 pm
the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...

Alright , let's assume God created all this that we see , but then the question comes , who created God ?
Then WHO created the creator of god? When will you stop? I can say too WHO created thé creator of the creator of god?! you will always find only one at the end

Lol, when you were young, you wonder who created you, after you found out that u were born by your mother then you wondered who created your mother? I guess we are in the first position.

PAto.- · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:19:01 pm »

Quote from: Nutella a.k.a Grimzy on February 21, 2015, 10:40:25 pm

Quote from: X-KilleR on February 21, 2015, 10:34:45 pm
the question is:
who created science? laws? it complexity? optic ?aerodynamic ,physics, gravity,quantum astro etc?
men are just understanding science, science was here with it laws before us, we just obey to science, it laws and limits ,and we are still amazed by it and still discovering......who or what this genius being who created all this? this is the real question...

Alright , let's assume God created all this that we see , but then the question comes , who created God ?

we all ask ourselves this question, but think about it , what does god mean? The creator the only one. god is not the same as his creatures. Means hes not a human as us , doesnt eat doesnt sleep , doesnt mate .only 1 god exists.
Hope you get it.

Lazarus · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:36:04 pm »

How was the first human being created on earth? It can't be some explosion big bang theory Shit that everyone thinks because that ridiculous. There's a creator.

CoiNNN · « **Reply #18 on:** February 22, 2015, 12:04:12 am »

Quote from: Nutella a.k.a Grimzy on February 21, 2015, 10:20:56 pm

Quote from: CoiN # on February 21, 2015, 10:18:50 pm

What is your point of view regarding Science and do you make a link between the religion you believe in and Science ? They say there is no god in this world, they say there is no hell or heaven in this world. Yet, I still am confused to understand why some people believe this. Think about it once more, all of our senses are perfect, imagine if our smell was bait more? We would be able to smell every little thing which would be disturbing. Imagine our eye sight, if we can see more, it would not be nice for the nature of the human vision. Imagine we can hear more? We would hear every little thing that goes on which we won't be able to sleep. Everything is nearly as perfect for a human, well was this all a coincidence? NO obviously not, not too many things can be coincidence can it.
Imagine the world, the ozone layer, if there was non, humans would be dead but how comes there is?

Any other additional information ?

I'm sorry for breaking the topic , but this seems non-sense to me. How do you know our senses are perfect ? Does any living human have these "abilities" and say they are bad? No , since no such human exists , and therefore we cannnot know if it is better or not. Think about it..

So you think having better smell sense is better? Smelling every little thing around you?

So having a better vision seeing every single cell is better?

So hearing every little thing is better? Listening to little rats crawling in your garden

almighty DomiNic · « **Reply #19 on:** February 22, 2015, 12:32:26 am »

Not going to lie, this topic is going t cause shit.