Author Topic: [Discussion]"Racism" (Read 573 times)

Burzum · « **Reply #20 on:** February 17, 2015, 03:01:49 pm »

Quote from: supertomi on February 17, 2015, 01:41:47 pm

I really don't find this racist at all... Everybody says this word now even i.. I have some black friends and i call them niggas but they don't take anything serious actually no one is they just got used to it!

ofc u can troll ur friends swearing and flaming to them, but you would call that word to ppl who u never met before ¿?

this is the big problem, u use some swears or bad words only for fun and joke, but not everybody reacts in the same way

maybe for me is a joke if u call me idiot or some other word, but if an admin doesnt know "this is a joke" u could be banned for that

it happened to me sometimes too.... i see ppl on server joking and trolling with other ppl, but at the same time i dont know if they are swearing for joke, or they are really serious, and sometimes i kicked ppl for swearing, and after the kick both guys told me that they were trolling eachothers as friends.... but how i can know ¿? so to prevent more swearings and fights i take actions (maybe i do wrong)

so what we must do ¿? let ppl swear and troll "just coz its funny" ¿? and if ppl take it serious and they start argueing ¿? who can choose where is the line between joke and disrespect ¿?

Spaff · « **Reply #21 on:** February 17, 2015, 03:13:51 pm »

as soon as I see ACTUAL black guy complaining it on forums. Then I would say you shouldn't be doing that

And come up with the "WE DONT KNOW IF THERE IS A BLACK GUY PLAYING ON THAT SERVER. niggga plz

Pringles · « **Reply #22 on:** February 17, 2015, 03:44:25 pm »

@Burzum that's actually your job as an administrator either to know if the players are being provocative or not. The administrator job does not consist only in taking actions on people when they might be breaking a rule only but also to know what to do in each situation. As an administrator you are required to take actions properly and to know when actions must be taken and when they shouldn't. That's why you should always pay attention to people's actions in order to be aware of their intentions. The easiest way is to study the player base and to interact with them as much as possible in order to know them better and to make the task easier for you (that's what I actually tried to do most of the time, try to interact with players, to see how they react in such situations and to study their intentions). However, like in every case, there are exceptions as you stated in your topic since sometimes you don't know somebody's intentions and that's when doubts take place. The best thing to do in this situation is not to take an action since not taking an action is the easiest thing to do when this occurs and wait for people's reaction. If people react in a positive way, then no action will need to be taken but if somebody takes it offensively and has a valid reason to take if offesively then that's when you should issue a warning/action on the responsible.

supertomi · « **Reply #23 on:** February 17, 2015, 04:15:42 pm »

Quote from: Burzum on February 17, 2015, 03:01:49 pm

Quote from: supertomi on February 17, 2015, 01:41:47 pm
I really don't find this racist at all... Everybody says this word now even i.. I have some black friends and i call them niggas but they don't take anything serious actually no one is they just got used to it!

ofc u can troll ur friends swearing and flaming to them, but you would call that word to ppl who u never met before ¿?

this is the big problem, u use some swears or bad words only for fun and joke, but not everybody reacts in the same way

maybe for me is a joke if u call me idiot or some other word, but if an admin doesnt know "this is a joke" u could be banned for that

it happened to me sometimes too.... i see ppl on server joking and trolling with other ppl, but at the same time i dont know if they are swearing for joke, or they are really serious, and sometimes i kicked ppl for swearing, and after the kick both guys told me that they were trolling eachothers as friends.... but how i can know ¿? so to prevent more swearings and fights i take actions (maybe i do wrong)

so what we must do ¿? let ppl swear and troll "just coz its funny" ¿? and if ppl take it serious and they start argueing ¿? who can choose where is the line between joke and disrespect ¿?

Sometimes me and my friends see a black guy on the street and sometimes we say to them "hey ni**a" and he don't get mad or anything he laughs and say "hey". I mean no one take this serious since everybody got used to it.. All and i mean all say this so yeah ppl got used to it..

thEnd · « **Reply #24 on:** February 17, 2015, 04:29:30 pm »

I thought we all are grown up, but aparently there is some people who shouldn't surf on the Internet and playing fps games, nor hung around gamer forums..

You get offended so easily just lol..

Pim · « **Reply #25 on:** February 17, 2015, 04:36:27 pm »

Quote from: supertomi on February 17, 2015, 01:41:47 pm

I really don't find this racist at all... Everybody says this word now even i.. I have some black friends and i call them niggas but they don't take anything serious actually no one is they just got used to it!

Not everyone is used to it. You can still insult someone, maybe keep that in mind?

Andrew` · « **Reply #26 on:** February 17, 2015, 05:38:18 pm »

Quote from: Pim on February 17, 2015, 04:36:27 pm

Quote from: supertomi on February 17, 2015, 01:41:47 pm
I really don't find this racist at all... Everybody says this word now even i.. I have some black friends and i call them niggas but they don't take anything serious actually no one is they just got used to it!

Not everyone is used to it. You can still insult someone, maybe keep that in mind?

You can also insult someone by calling him b**** or retard etc but people still do it in JB and noone does anything, because they take it as "fun", if they're gonna ban people for the N word they should ban the others too, but that doesn't happen cuz they're their friends.

Pim · « **Reply #27 on:** February 17, 2015, 05:40:47 pm »

Quote from: Under~ on February 17, 2015, 05:38:18 pm

Quote from: Pim on February 17, 2015, 04:36:27 pm
Quote from: supertomi on February 17, 2015, 01:41:47 pm
I really don't find this racist at all... Everybody says this word now even i.. I have some black friends and i call them niggas but they don't take anything serious actually no one is they just got used to it!

Not everyone is used to it. You can still insult someone, maybe keep that in mind?
You can also insult someone by calling him b**** or retard etc but people still do it in JB and noone does anything, because they take it as "fun", if they're gonna ban people for the N word they should ban the others too, but that doesn't happen cuz they're their friends.

If someone calls you a retard no worries i'll come with the banhammer

monsterCAT- · « **Reply #28 on:** February 17, 2015, 06:35:36 pm »

awwwww so cute fac3, so cute from u, gg. anyway.

Im not stoping u do have/do fun games/days in Ambrosia JB, am I?, Im just doing my job. U say that word,me ban u, u break another rule,me kick u, u spamm,me /gag u, u keep selfing, I /banct u, its simple, veeery simple. I was in mind to ban u more than 3hours, but as u are a good guy, I choosed to ban u for 3hours only, soo ye.

Good Luck
CAT

BuddyTrollsten · « **Reply #29 on:** February 17, 2015, 06:45:11 pm »

Quote from: monsterCAT- on February 17, 2015, 06:35:36 pm

awwwww so cute fac3, so cute from u, gg. anyway.

Im not stoping u do have/do fun games/days in Ambrosia JB, am I?, Im just doing my job. U say that word,me ban u, u break another rule,me kick u, u spamm,me /gag u, u keep selfing, I /banct u, its simple, veeery simple. I was in mind to ban u more than 3hours, but as u are a good guy, I choosed to ban u for 3hours only, soo ye.

Good Luck
CAT

Ah , so you don't give warnings.
Monster do you realize that you say the word sometimes , but yet you're playing in the server and not banned yet.
And MonsterCAT , you have lied to me. I have confirmed something that isn't quite good for you , I can make you disappear from here in an instant.
One of your "friends" have actually accidentally provided me with evidence of this as well lol.

Koray · « **Reply #30 on:** February 17, 2015, 06:45:57 pm »

how cute, an online daycare we got here in Ambrosia.

Fuckoff seriously, if Ambrosia wants to improve it shouldn't have a rule with 'no N word' since admins wont see it or wont do anything because they are known players whom dont want to get banned.

Anyhow, Im one with the friend/hate bullshit thats going on in Jailbreak.

'PL' · « **Reply #31 on:** February 18, 2015, 01:56:56 am »

Monstercat, you can just admit that you are still a rookie and susceptible to overreacting whilst being a conformist. That's really what you did here...

Anyways, I don't consider that you should remove or complicate the rule of "racism" to accurately name which words are forbidden. If somebody wants to use english that involves the n word, I can tell you he won't really stop doing that. It's his problem that he chose to not use other words that depict somebody being a N, or make the whole sitatuation funny. It falls under the category of pathetic and impolite, and those 2 adjectives don't satisfy your ego, it divides people than unite them to like you.

Common guys, Social Slang 101

Red Mist · « **Reply #32 on:** February 18, 2015, 03:32:08 am »

Guys stop cornering monstercat,he did his job in my opinion.
Ban was only of 3 hrs,why make a big deal out of it??
Though i dont find N word racist, but i dont get how that n word adds to fun factor in jb,just curious

SilverQuick · « **Reply #33 on:** February 18, 2015, 03:49:47 am »

Well, I'd judge only if I saw the way you spelled it.

BLooDReaPeR · « **Reply #34 on:** February 18, 2015, 04:34:06 am »

I dont even understand why ban a person for insulting... Let the players says whatever the fk they want, it's a game. If i call a person stupid in the game, i am sure i am not gonna hurt his feelings, it's a GAME. Go to any other successful server, spanish, russians, all you hear is Puto and Puta and Eblan.. If you do not want people to cuss you, don't play. The only way to geet more players is stop fucking banning them

simple as that.

supertomi · « **Reply #35 on:** February 18, 2015, 02:22:17 pm »

Quote from: FOODY on February 18, 2015, 03:32:08 am

Guys stop cornering monstercat,he did his job in my opinion.
Ban was only of 3 hrs,why make a big deal out of it??
Though i dont find N word racist, but i dont get how that n word adds to fun factor in jb,just curious

So you play jb and they tell you "get in N..." wouldn't you laugh at all?

Quote from: BLooDReaPeR on February 18, 2015, 04:34:06 am

I dont even understand why ban a person for insulting... Let the players says whatever the fk they want, it's a game. If i call a person stupid in the game, i am sure i am not gonna hurt his feelings, it's a GAME. Go to any other successful server, spanish, russians, all you hear is Puto and Puta and Eblan.. If you do not want people to cuss you, don't play. The only way to geet more players is stop ******* banning them simple as that.

No that wouldn't be right cos everyone was gonna be like "fck u fck u and fck u" all you would see is swears.

Pim · « **Reply #36 on:** February 18, 2015, 02:28:04 pm »

Quote from: BLooDReaPeR on February 18, 2015, 04:34:06 am

I dont even understand why ban a person for insulting... Let the players says whatever the fk they want, it's a game. If i call a person stupid in the game, i am sure i am not gonna hurt his feelings, it's a GAME. Go to any other successful server, spanish, russians, all you hear is Puto and Puta and Eblan.. If you do not want people to cuss you, don't play. The only way to geet more players is stop ******* banning them simple as that.

I rather not let this community turn into some 10 y/o kid plaza fest that's not enjoyable because all they do is flame.

Noty

Bess · « **Reply #37 on:** February 18, 2015, 02:55:25 pm »

@fac3 cmon mate.. racism leads to getting banned. Are you regretting it now and in the same time sharing it with us? Btw it would have been good to see a screenshot of monsterCAT spelling that word and you getting banned without warning? I guess monster did his job, even tho he should have given you a warning.. @BLooDReaPeR if JB it's not fun for you, it's fun for others..

Peace, OverpaiD

BuddyTrollsten · « **Reply #38 on:** February 18, 2015, 03:00:26 pm »

monsterCAT , wake up please!
We need more input from you , we're all curious what you think , your previous reply was pointless so I would like you to put more input , something maybe useful since you're the person here who banned him , and do you really think you're doing your JOB , if you were you wouldn't be lying to me and many others you know.

monsterCAT- · « **Reply #39 on:** February 18, 2015, 04:34:19 pm »

I was not goin' to reply, but ok im gonna do it for Buddy.

Buddy, what would u do if u start making a vote to changemap, at the end of making vote, some1 selfs and ruins the vote, this was the first. What would u do if a player selfs every single map, ok fun, this is fun, but this fun stuff goes far sometimes. I baned from CT team maaany times fac3, but he is a good guy, and he tries to do fun selfing, ok I accept that, but being a CT, and saying that racist word, I don't accept that. I was in mind, and I was on ts3 asking my frind in the channel, to ban him 3hours, or 1day. Since fac3 is a good guy, I choosed to ban for only 3hours.

Aight lemme ask u all something!
How would u feel, u are a person with black color, playin' in Ambrosia JB server, and fac3 says N****. ha? I would feel like he is calling me, or saying something to me(if I would be a person with black color)

I heared and I saw "N word" well thats not racist, I was searching something about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ

Well I don't have anything more to say, Im done here.
Good Luck
CAT