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Offline P o p a y

Re: forums popay
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2015, 01:31:31 pm »
Everytime I lock a topic I give a reason for it, so everyone is aware of it. So let's start:

1. http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=30958.msg391455#new

- If you have read carefully you would have seen this: We all shared our "feedback" enough is enough. I request everyone with Moderation rights not to comment/reply any further.

Let me elaborate for you: I haven't replied a single word over there as I wanted most of the guys to share their opinion, and after that everyone started to go off topic and just chat around who is stronger on internet. If I didn't lock that topic it would be chaos until now. However I gave you enough time to share your opinion, not my fault if you have connected to the forum late. And In that topic I am not talking about members only but I said:  I request everyone with Moderation rights not to comment/reply any further. But I guess you only read the parts that you want.

2. http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=30946.msg391647;topicseen#msg391647

- First of all I made this topic, and to be honest it is all my right to lock it when I want it, because I created it. Simple as that. However I will elaborate it for you: If you think I have locked this topic because some people said Popay it's not awesome, I didn't. It was open, as you can see on the first page there are a lot of negatives, but after that people started arguing between themselves, go to there and read all thing. Another topic turning into regular arguing. But hey, you only see me locking the topic, you don't see me warning people.

Who cares about good things when you can care about bad things, right? NO if you ask me, not right.

3. People who say that I didn't use the right words and why I use the words Haters:
-To be honest I have never seen so much hate done to people who just want to have little fun and nothing else. This week over 3 topics got hate and their only point was to have a bit fun. So why should I be Indirect in order to be harsh when I can be direct harsh ? But now you don't like it right ?
Conclusion fellas about this one: If you don't want people to be strict and harsh towards you, you shouldn't be strict and harsh towards them.. Simple.

Just for the recorder:
- For those topics that you "reported" me, if I didn't lock them, the outcome would have been: 1 mute, 3 moderated and over 10 warned. So I prefer to deal with one report for doing my job and preventing people from getting frustrated, rather than with dealing with 13 reports for doing my job Late.


Thank you for your report, High staff will come with an outcome shortly,
Popay (Forum Moderator)

Offline supertomi

Re: forums popay
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2015, 01:59:05 pm »
Conclusion fellas about this one: If you don't want people to be strict and harsh towards you, you shouldn't be strict and harsh towards them.. Simple.
Well said man..
About the topics he locked i saw them and he did the right thing.. If you go see the posts i bet you would do the same thing. And as Popay said he told everyone to stop posting and no gave a **** so yeah well done Popay.

Offline Nutella

Re: forums popay
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2015, 06:55:24 pm »
And .. Here we go again, pointless shit , exactly , shit. Topic should be locked. Nothing to see here .

About what Konvict said , 10/10 , greatest post I've seen in a while.

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Re: forums popay
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2015, 07:04:57 pm »
You can't please everybody.
Since i have seen this sentence pretty often , let me state something:

That sentence is valid only when the majority is pleased & there is a minor number of those who aren't. Not the opposite ;) (Talking in general)

People are obviously not going to be pleased when you lock away access to a discussion they want to be having, but sometimes it is indeed necessary.

Indeed sometimes, but it happens quite frequently lately.
Yeah but i doubt that those people are unpleased because of the topic lock. They are not pleased because of the reasons that led the topic to be created.
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Offline 'PL'

Re: forums popay
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2015, 09:31:35 pm »
The last people to be frustrated is popay. Looking the past few months, most topics bring sadness and regret, not to mention as he puts it "negative" vibe. Popay should be that last human being in ambrosia you to be mad in, If you had fm like before some years, oh boy would you have gotten so mad about them warning you and crying to your hstaff friends to remove them.

Just let the guy breathe, he just wants to lower the rate of chance that a fight will occur in a topic, how mannerable or polite the arguing is.

Offline Duke Devlin

Re: forums popay
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2015, 10:25:21 pm »
only thing I would complain about is;

hi guys this topic is getting locked, lemme post MY opinion tho and make sure noone can reply to it
k


Offline fReideN

Re: forums popay
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2015, 11:33:34 pm »
i dont see whats wrong with locking a topic you started  ::) 

popays doing a good job  ;D

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Re: forums popay
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2015, 04:26:14 pm »
Locking topics open to discussion is frustrating. Not just Popay but many people do this. At least Popay has good intentions.

This doesn't belong here; a report of Popay but more of a open-to-discussion generalised topic under "Ambrosia General".
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Offline Pringles

Re: forums popay
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2015, 04:49:33 pm »
The thing is that even if these topics might have been locked for an unreasonable reason, that doesn't mean that they had a reason to be created.

If I was at Popay's position I would have trashed the topic "A reflection about the recent events" a while ago and I would have locked the topic "For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!".

The topic "A reflection about the recent events" was a source of drama and we all expected that a lot of negative things would be posted so that topic should have been trashed when it was created because a lot of similar topics have been created in the past and there was no reason to create once again the same topic and to start useless discussions again.

The topic regarding Jailbreak had actually a reason to be since its creator wanted to prove that Jailbreak was still an enjoyable place but some people (including me) felt the need to state their opinions but things were going a little bit off-topic so the topic had to be locked and anyway it's actually its creator's choice either to lock it or not.

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Re: forums popay
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2015, 04:54:14 pm »
there was no reason to create once again the same topic and to start useless discussions again.

Those discussions aren't useless... They are very useful if you know how to take them on board. Although some people post unnecessary things, that doesn't change the fact that you can only correct your mistakes if someone tells you them (if you don't spot them yourself)  :).
Do not be rude in speech. Restrain Anger. Be good to others. Do not be arrogant. Forgive others for their mistakes. Speak to people mildly. Do not ridicule one another. Do not say a word of disrespect to your parents. Do not follow anyone blindly. Grant more time to repay if the debtor is in hard times. Do not engage in bribery. Do not break promises. Stand out firmly for justice. Women also have the right for inheritance. Protect orphans. Do not consume one another’s wealth unjustly. Try for settlement between people. Avoid assumption. Do not spy and backbite. Spend wealth in charity. Help those in need by finding them. Speak to the needy kindly. Honour your guests. Be dutiful towards your parents. Practice what you preach. Stay away from corruption. Fight only with those who fight you. Keep striving. There is no compulsion in religion. Choose rulers by their merit. Do not burden a person beyond his scope. Do not become divided. Men and Women have equal rewards for their deeds. Do not be miserly. Do not be envious. Do not be an advocate for deceit. Stay away from sin and aggression. Be just. Avoid intoxicants and alcohol. Do not gamble. Do not insult others’ deities. Eat and Drink, But Be Not Excessive. Protect and help those who seek protection. Allah will forgive those who have done wrong out of ignorance. Invitation to God should be with wisdom and good instruction. Do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Keep aloof from what is vain. Do not enter others’ houses without seeking permission. Walk on earth with humility. Judge with justice between people. Do not neglect your portion of this world52. Enjoin right, forbid wrong. Do not walk in insolence through the earth. Women should not display their finery. Do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Decide on affairs by consultation. The most noble of you is the most righteous. Act justly to people of all faiths. Seek forgiveness of Allah. He is Forgiving and Merciful.

Offline Pringles

Re: forums popay
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2015, 04:56:15 pm »
there was no reason to create once again the same topic and to start useless discussions again.
Those discussions aren't useless... They are very useful if you know how to take them on board. Although some people post unnecessary things, that doesn't change the fact that you can only correct your mistakes if someone tells you them (if you don't spot them yourself)  :).

I mean people discuss about other things in these topics instead of focusing on the main idea of the topic so fights start and that's why I actually said that it was a source of drama because people feel the need to state their opinion in such topics that is sometimes a bit off-topic and that's why the topic had to be locked.

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Re: forums popay
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2015, 04:58:52 pm »
there was no reason to create once again the same topic and to start useless discussions again.

Those discussions aren't useless... They are very useful if you know how to take them on board. Although some people post unnecessary things, that doesn't change the fact that you can only correct your mistakes if someone tells you them (if you don't spot them yourself)  :).
Check the topic, you can find 1 useful post every 10 posts.
It ain't worth it to find that amount of negativity on forums for that 1 post.
Those topics aren't needed. And this report should be solved soon and there's a lot of topic that you can post in to "help" the community grow in case you really care about it.
If you're a member, you should consider suggesting the stuff that you find useful.
If you're a highstaff lower than emperor, you should consider suggestion highstaff promotions.
If you're an emperor, you should probably consider the requests people are doing.

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Offline Ḏ℮ηїαł

Re: forums popay
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2015, 05:41:26 pm »
lol ray is right,

stupid pointless topics where everyone can fight to show everyone that they are right

any topic about ambrosia dying or shit about it always causes the history channel to come back, everyone talks about the past, then it turns to huge fight

well done popay

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Offline 'PL'

Re: forums popay
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2015, 06:33:48 pm »
lol ray is right,

stupid pointless topics where everyone can fight to show everyone that they are right

any topic about ambrosia dying or shit about it always causes the history channel to come back, everyone talks about the past, then it turns to huge fight

well done popay

gg

In this community, I have made sure that your history is your life :D

Sorry thou, but History :3

Offline WILLIE

Re: forums popay
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2015, 07:24:25 pm »
The last people to be frustrated is popay. Looking the past few months, most topics bring sadness and regret, not to mention as he puts it "negative" vibe. Popay should be that last human being in ambrosia you to be mad in, If you had fm like before some years, oh boy would you have gotten so mad about them warning you and crying to your hstaff friends to remove them.

Just let the guy breathe, he just wants to lower the rate of chance that a fight will occur in a topic, how mannerable or polite the arguing is.

oh right, i ve suffered from edgars back then

but wait, there's difference between a fight and a discussion, and the topic didnt include any fights , ezio is right tbh, if all those discussions get closed all the time the forum is actually gonna be boring all you can see is admin applications

imo let people discuss,however if any fights accur it would be the time to interfere and you may lock the topic then, because there's no such thing as "thats enough feedback" people get to have opinions one after another.

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Offline 'PL'

Re: forums popay
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2015, 08:07:31 pm »
The last people to be frustrated is popay. Looking the past few months, most topics bring sadness and regret, not to mention as he puts it "negative" vibe. Popay should be that last human being in ambrosia you to be mad in, If you had fm like before some years, oh boy would you have gotten so mad about them warning you and crying to your hstaff friends to remove them.

Just let the guy breathe, he just wants to lower the rate of chance that a fight will occur in a topic, how mannerable or polite the arguing is.

oh right, i ve suffered from edgars back then

but wait, there's difference between a fight and a discussion, and the topic didnt include any fights , ezio is right tbh, if all those discussions get closed all the time the forum is actually gonna be boring all you can see is admin applications

imo let people discuss,however if any fights accur it would be the time to interfere and you may lock the topic then, because there's no such thing as "thats enough feedback" people get to have opinions one after another.

Sami or edgars was a pesky strict forum mod, but he is like 1/4 of the fm staff we had before. Take shane for example, even though he wasn't a fm his comments were spot on in every topic with never going either outside of the subject, or leaving just a sneak peak of his opinion with the demandment of him to reply once more. Same as St.George, Rawr+, Stevko, Thend(I mean right now he is not the same thend, but I loved his past one :D), Requiem, sync...
Most of the staff we had before, were just that good in being precise with their comments without the need for more or less details. Just enough to take the members on their side with full support.

It's funny to me that rawr+ was a forum mod for 1.5(maybe 2.5) years in ambrosia and in those times he was quite dedicated as popay is now. And if he was still a forum mod, he would do as popay right now.

There is a similar behavior people inhibit which is just posting the real story with "crops" of some parts to victimize themselves to acquire whiteknights and milk the value of their support and create a temporary group with a temporary similar target. Then just disband, so people would cry and tell you: You backstabed me.... The best example is the group when tasha overthrow shane, those people were ehmmmm, "something to be reckon with". Now, they are still around but are disbanded and actually quite aggressive towards eachother. Another example is redsnake vs shane incident( it was 50% of members siding with one, and the other 50% with the other).
And that starting to take big thing in CC era, (according to my investigation), that nitpicking as sami calls it. Before this was usually so well handled by forum mods that people just forget about it. Nowadays there is nobody in the staff team(active enough) to just kill it as before and completely annihilate the opinion of those people.

You have to understand that the staff team of ambrosia are up to hear with topics, sure feedback is great and all but with so much quantity it really does kill the mood (talkin from popay's perspective)

Take for example ezza and rawr, ezza was always the last guy to lock a topic until it reached a threshold of "enough feedback" where the same words overlap and don't engage the reader into anything new, just the same thing being said "that way" or "this way". He kinda did that for good 3 years from all 7 staff categories (from member - cs leader),(back then). So rightfully when ezza couldn't rawr did, with almost same result, the PROBLEM WAS FIXED! Not one of the sides with their opinions pulled a trigger in a different topic or in a new one, because it was fuqin CLOSED AND HAD A GOOD RED DOT. But doing that for years and years will start getting a toll, it really does give you more headaches and give you tons of frustrations, and the short solution is just to lock all those topics and make a new announcement with the plans so people can get hyped all again. That's the secret :D
 That's what it's about leading a community.


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Re: forums popay
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2015, 08:55:59 pm »

For the sake of humanity could you all please keep your words as short as possible. No need for writing a report -_-
Do not be rude in speech. Restrain Anger. Be good to others. Do not be arrogant. Forgive others for their mistakes. Speak to people mildly. Do not ridicule one another. Do not say a word of disrespect to your parents. Do not follow anyone blindly. Grant more time to repay if the debtor is in hard times. Do not engage in bribery. Do not break promises. Stand out firmly for justice. Women also have the right for inheritance. Protect orphans. Do not consume one another’s wealth unjustly. Try for settlement between people. Avoid assumption. Do not spy and backbite. Spend wealth in charity. Help those in need by finding them. Speak to the needy kindly. Honour your guests. Be dutiful towards your parents. Practice what you preach. Stay away from corruption. Fight only with those who fight you. Keep striving. There is no compulsion in religion. Choose rulers by their merit. Do not burden a person beyond his scope. Do not become divided. Men and Women have equal rewards for their deeds. Do not be miserly. Do not be envious. Do not be an advocate for deceit. Stay away from sin and aggression. Be just. Avoid intoxicants and alcohol. Do not gamble. Do not insult others’ deities. Eat and Drink, But Be Not Excessive. Protect and help those who seek protection. Allah will forgive those who have done wrong out of ignorance. Invitation to God should be with wisdom and good instruction. Do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Keep aloof from what is vain. Do not enter others’ houses without seeking permission. Walk on earth with humility. Judge with justice between people. Do not neglect your portion of this world52. Enjoin right, forbid wrong. Do not walk in insolence through the earth. Women should not display their finery. Do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Decide on affairs by consultation. The most noble of you is the most righteous. Act justly to people of all faiths. Seek forgiveness of Allah. He is Forgiving and Merciful.

Re: forums popay
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2015, 03:03:17 am »
Is this being discussed?

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Re: forums popay
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2015, 11:34:40 pm »
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