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Offline Nutella

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2015, 09:05:14 pm »
Screenshot fake , people in it bribed and threatened to kill their families :P

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Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2015, 09:07:46 pm »
Screenshot fake , people in it bribed and threatened to kill their families :P
Plot-twist: kills them anyway.

Offline P o p a y

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2015, 09:14:34 pm »
Nutella and Ray made me laugh hahaha :D

By the way just for everyone's record, doing this SS was not with intention of me to influence the HA position.

I ONLY WANTED TO SHOW EVERYONE THAT WE ARE HAVING FUN !! :3 :) <3

And Yes, Fac3 did come up with some ideas.. and everyone else :D

Offline Noex'

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2015, 09:34:19 pm »
The real deal is that you are one of the few who deserve it :P .

Offline fReideN

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2015, 11:17:55 pm »
i havnt played jb in sooo long miss it  :'(

Offline Pringles

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2015, 01:57:24 am »
It's not about this, you cannot keep trying to have fun like this. I already tried to have fun several times in this way and it was the only reason why I haven't left before. I added custom models, new plugins during Christmas and we were having fun at this time so I remained patient and believed that there was a way to improve the Jailbreak server. That's why I added old maps : jail_aJ_ultimate, jb_rush (version of jb_mountains) and some fun maps and also led an admin meeting to figure out what problems had to be fixed in the Jailbreak server. After the meeting, I decided to rewrite the Jailbreak rules (credits to @header for his help) and got rid of several ambiguities. But after some time, I realized that it had nothing to do with the plugins, with the maps nor with the rules. It's about the players and about the mod itself. The mod attracts a high amount of young people (no offence) and these people have often no clue about the Jailbreak mod and about its rules. They tend to break the Jailbreak rules, they also tend to join the CT team as much as they can and ruin other players' gameplay by pissing them off since they tend not to be creative because they are new to the mod and still have a lot of things to learn. They do stupid games like Last Request / Handicap Days / Punishment Days to take an advantage on the prisoners since they are new and they don't wish to give a bad impression to the other players and tend to complain when somebody kills them even when the kill was issued for a proper reason because they are still new. They also tend to report anyone for any slight mistake because they want to give the impression that they are being helpful and once they have enough of self-esteem they apply for an adminship (sometimes they apply without even completing these steps). Then of course, all these steps harm the Jailbreak gameplay and the harmony in the server. And don't get me wrong. I'm also saying this because I used to be like this. When I joined Ambrosia I must admit that I was a kid. I was 15-16 but I was immature. I used to complain for stupid things (like spamming for a stupid FD) and try as much as possible to get attention. But it's just now that I realize that what I was doing was really stupid. Because after all, what's the point of playing in the Jailbreak server ? Jailbreak is supposed to be funny and enjoyable by everyone. People can do mistakes, they can be wrong and can do whatever they want. When you take an action on someone, you should not take this action to punish him but to help him. When some people take an action on someone because he's being a bad officer, they do it most of the time to keep the server in order and they are rarely on his point of view. People tend to take actions wrongly without any offence and this makes things even worse because they take actions not to help the guy who is disrespecting a rule but to maintain the server in order as stated previously because they know that what the player is doing is wrong and they tend to protect the server base than to help the guy who is disrespecting the rule. That's basically why I never decided to take an action on the reported administrators when I was still a Head Admin because even if taking an action could have solved the problem and help these people to progress, I think that having a nice discussion with these people is the best way to solve the problem. Meanwhile, if these people would have disrespected the agreement made during their report, then an action would have been taken.

The purpose of my reply (even if it might sound a little bit Off-Topic) is that you can't make the server enjoyable if you don't manage to change people's mentality. That's why I decided to resign because I had the feeling that things would not change anymore and that I would be obliged to keep trying hard to fix an issue that in my eyes could not be fixed. You might think whatever you want and I'm not against the fact that you might have a different opinion about my case but just keep in mind that I know myself better of what you do. Making special things for the Jailbreak server like tournaments and fun days might be a solution but not a permanent one since you cannot keep doing such things all the time and because the purpose of the Jailbreak mod does not consist in that. That's why you should focus on that aspect of things if you ever get the Head Admin position and I wish you have it since you are the only one in my eyes capable of this.

Also, one other thing is why is @taha still HAA ? He is not even active anymore and he is showing how immature he can be by hiding from the Community. He might have done something wrong and I'm not judging him on that because this is beyond me and I basically refuse to take the intentions of his act in consideration but why does not he accept the reality and why does not he act maturely for once ?
« Last Edit: February 08, 2015, 04:07:01 pm by ReFresh »

Offline HuniePop

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2015, 02:56:49 am »
Mostly the unorginized people trying to individually show off with frags ruin the gameplay.
I agree on everything ReFresh said.
We need to have a map of 1 cube only to test the creativity of Ct's and how much fun they make.
Plus we need to make an official Jailbreak HA and HAA election already. We have no HA and taha is not amongst us.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2015, 02:58:59 am by Darw3n the Atheist »

Offline P o p a y

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2015, 04:51:15 am »
I agree with you guys, but my main objective with this topic was to SHOW everyone how much FUN jailbreak can be.. Nothing else..

There will always be new guys and we have to tolerate them (whiners and e.t.c.), lets not forget where we started.. I used to freekill before 6,7 years or more.. But there were Oldies in that time that showed me how to have fun (tobaskus, iInch, along with SNap, GoodMood, and a lot lot lot lot other valuablee players).

Let's keep the server alive and better.. :)

I don't want you all to get a wrong impression over here, I am not "fighting" for HA position, I am fighting for a better, funnier more enjoyable server..
And to people who say that I abuse, you have a section called Staff Complaints..


And Refresh you are right about everything but all my life I follow one simple motto from my idol (50 cent) (for every aspect of my life: gaming, real life, studies, girls, money, glory and e.t.c.) and that is: Get rich or die trying..

Thank you though for your opinion :) I appreciate it a lot :)

Cheers,
Popay

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Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2015, 07:59:00 am »
There's abusive commands being used in the server so everyone is whining and server is boring - monsterCAT confirmed

Elaborate please? I do not understand what you actually mean..

Have in mind that on this map Gravity can be cheated. Once you get it, you have it all round.

Was being sarcastic at some "strict" admin, np with you Popay you know I love ya <3 ;D
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Offline Alberto

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2015, 12:24:06 pm »
We all know what happen with the new players, they will always be asking for CT and requesting a FD because they were freekilled but for something we have some old players still and admins, to explain them that they cannot go CT all time and that they dont get FD each time they are killed. Usually, the 80% are good persons, not talking about players but the person behind the avatar of the terrorirst in the server. They use to be fun, have a good sense of humour and persons with who you can have a good conversation but to know it you have to give your time to know them.

Before and with it i mean 2012, beginning, when i was admin for first itme sometimes  i used to abuse on them because i thought they were "inferior" for be newbies and unknown players but then i realised i was wrong and i am very shamed of my behave and thats whyt i defend them all i can, because all you need is to play 2-3 times and talk with all them and you will realise that they are not that noobs you thought once they were.

If i am still playing JB here is because i gave my time to know them and i could get fun with them and i really do when i join to the server, so thank you all for be as you are and dont change!

And for the HA position, i hope that HS choose one already because we need it already, to start improving the JB server all we can and to give our best to make the server even funnier than it is right now, and that they make a good decision choosing the new HA because there are only a few who really deserve it ^^

So once more  i hope that you give your time to know the new players becauseif you do you will not regret of it, i am sure of it, i did and i am happy with the players and more or less with the server :DD!

Offline 'PL'

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2015, 01:47:06 pm »
Hold your likes.

Ready up for a long post of the Replica's type.

Inb4TLDR

@ReFresh 
I find it really awkward that you are applying for administrator in a different community where the current playerbase is composed of young people with ratio 2:1. And you tell me, you resigned because of that playerbase. This doesn't mean is true, but do your research. Or use a prediction methodology, could be said is far early to judge but as you can see when the server was filled up, you happen to see younger people more than those other categories.

It's true and perfectly well put that younger players in any jailbreak associate with flamboyancy, gullibleness, obstinacy but I'd like to assert that in the older days, we also had younger people. I'm myself an example, but the treatment of oldies towards younger people were always in good terms without much focus or centralizing of the subject. It was really carefully planned to not pay attention to who said/what he do, just think about what are you gonna do next day as a commander. Rebellion was also laid back without much focus, just enough and symbolically related to just 2-5 people. Who would rebel when the games that came out of oldies were just so interested and well thought off. Everything was magnetized to just one person to control a flow of 20+ people and succeed with the utmost low cases of freekill or unfairness.
That's what I can call a onemanjail.

So my point being is: By paying less attention to newer people(if they are younger people too) you would get the needed amount of relative feedback to establish a working environment. If any popular player changes consistency, a domino effect will consume the server. Leading to the state of the server currently, any newcommer should be "welcomed" with a more different  process. And the medium of that "welcoming" should be someone that is a experienced jailbreak player who has a spot in the server.

Here is how I look at it, an experienced player as a major advantage to someone newer who can swiftly kill the prosperity. Be it by a no support in his application, a report, a engagement that falls on the experienced guy's favor. All of those activities just completely renders the newer person unmotivated and ready to change communities/server. If at any point of time there is one of those players in the server, you will get great products without much complications. If they are absent, you get this state we are right now.

Everytime there was a administrator on jailbreak, the development of the newer people would capsulate in the "better" orbit. The defective players are mostly people who join when there is no administrator online and can just entitle them as "oldies" and newer people have to go with a day or two mimicking their actions (behavior-wise). It's to no avail that the jailbreak has indeed unmotivated administrators that just kill time and don't do anything productive for the server. But demoting those would also put you in a predicament because they can just call upon the moto: JB IS BORING, I <3 OLD DAYS(followed by a rq and a situation[drama topic] that many will agree because of manipulative assortments).

Lastly, I do not blame you refresh. You were one of those research HA to experiment tactics and optimizations, and you never had a field day to breakthrough and abstract it until experiment with it.

P.S:
@taha It comes to my attention that most of you know taha's incident. And I would like to leave taha as a HAA because as a part-time oldie, I have strong feeling that he will comeback in a notlong time.

Offline Gikki

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2015, 02:09:31 pm »
Good job
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Offline fReideN

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2015, 07:05:57 pm »
There will always be newcomers or even youngsters playing JB.

You have to start somewhere  :)    once they get used to the people and make an impression, it becomes easier for others to have fun.

Just give people time to fit in  ;D

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Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2015, 07:12:21 pm »
So basically, highstaff looking for Head admin, and taha is inactive...
Why the hell isn't popay HA yet ?
None of yo business boi

Liked because he asked..

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Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2015, 08:42:06 pm »
Well its a shame I missed it seems that it was a great day
Stay creative guys have fun and always paaarrtaaaay :P

Offline Pringles

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2015, 11:22:22 am »
Well I don't know why I haven't replied yet but I guess I'll have to do it since apparently some people misunderstand the concept of fun.

@SmileyForever, aren't you one of these who constantly abuse his admin commands just to try to have fun in the server ? You are talking about having fun but you can't even have fun in the Jailbreak server without using your admin commands and I know this because I know you pretty well and because you told me yourself that whenever you went to the Jailbreak server, you enjoyed slaying/rocketing people and that you sometimes put low gravity then high gravity and so on... And you know, I never blamed the player base for not agreeing with my ideas. The problem with the player base is that everytime regular players leave and new ones come. The new ones tend to be young and that's actually the problem (cfr my previous post). If you cannot have fun without using your admin commands and without doing something out of the regular Jailbreak mod then this basically means that you are at a point in which you can't stand the classic Jailbreak anymore. That's one of the reasons I decided to leave. And @'PL', you do realize that once again, your post is more something to try to prove that I'm wrong instead of a valid point ? The gameplay is different.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2015, 11:35:07 am by ReFresh »

Offline Alberto

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2015, 11:54:08 am »
Well I don't know why I haven't replied yet but I guess I'll have to do it since apparently some people misunderstand the concept of fun.

@SmileyForever, aren't you one of these who constantly abuse his admin commands just to try to have fun in the server ? You are talking about having fun but you can't even have fun in the Jailbreak server without using your admin commands and I know this because I know you pretty well and because you told me yourself that whenever you went to the Jailbreak server, you enjoyed slaying/rocketing people and that you sometimes put low gravity then high gravity and so on... And you know, I never blamed the player base for not agreeing with my ideas. The problem with the player base is that everytime regular players leave and new ones come. The new ones tend to be young and that's actually the problem (cfr my previous post). If you cannot have fun without using your admin commands and without doing something out of the regular Jailbreak mod then this basically means that you are at a point in which you can't stand the classic Jailbreak anymore. That's one of the reasons I decided to leave. And @'PL', you do realize that once again, your post is more something to try to prove that I'm wrong instead of a valid point ? The gameplay is different.
I do but when only a few players are playign and they are close to me xD when the server has many player  i dont abuse and i get fun without abusing lol XD only chating and that stuff makes me laugh. I get fun with the guys commanding but sometimes  to have more fun because people like it i give gravity to someone or make votations and that stuff, i dont abuse a lot and break the server and make people leave. that i was not reported gives me the reason, so trust me, Jailbreak is still fun. They are young but still they are funny still if you give them the time to get  a bit the mechanic of the server
« Last Edit: February 12, 2015, 12:44:10 pm by SmileyForever »

Offline P o p a y

Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2015, 01:37:29 pm »
I don't know why you are talking about abusing..

If you are somehow referring to me, please explain where I have abused my admin rights in order to "have" fun ?


Cheers,
Popay


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Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2015, 01:41:28 pm »
Decided to join JB today.


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Re: For all "loyal" members who say JB is Boring and No FUN!
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2015, 02:02:40 pm »
Decided to join JB today.


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