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Offline Alberto

[JB]Proposals for improve the server
« on: January 29, 2015, 10:12:13 pm »
Hello Jailbreak players,

After too much thinking and playing, I am here to give some proposals to improve the server and make it funnier and enjoyable, so let's go!

1| Change a bit the rules, the server should have more freedom to act, let me explain it: The current rules dont let admins do fun ny things more away than traditional games without use amxmodmenu but why shouldnt we to have fun? With it i dont mean to abuse (as many of you know i usually do, this isnt a secret) if not to have fun. like " first terror who answer will choose a terror to get uberslap or
if a team loses they get fire and die, things like this. Of course prisoners can get more freedom.

2| Maps: there are many maps which never are played because players dont like or are boring, so i suggest to delete these maps and add others by doing a topic where players can suggest maps and make a votation and the most voted maps can be added to try it.

3| delete the shop which only brings problems and add RTD (roll the dice) or simply add other mods to get fun in the server, not strictly expensive shop which is never used except for one nade each 500 rounds

4| Add more admins, and this is urgent. Only me and sometimes MonsterCat are the only admins who play JB, the rest of the admins are inactive, they never play except 1-2 times per month they appear and only two of them xD the others could be demoted and the server wouldnt feel the difference so admins should be urgently added even promote active players to admin status making them do an admin app and accepting asap (of course trust players, not only 2 active and doesnt know that there exist a forum)

5| change if possible the configuration os some special days, like nightcrawler which is very dark and it should be less for example

6| remove VIP statment which only emperors have for free and which i think is unfair for the other players and doesnt really give a nice benefit to the communit and instead of it add to the server new clothes or complements to the players to make it like more enjoyable, it can bring a lot of fun to the server saying " hey look at my hat " "hey mine is better" and that stuff which is normally liked by the players

7| not do only HNS once per map, if not 2 becuase players love HNS and i think that do it 2 can be amazing

8| remove useless games like handicap day, silent day and first and  last reaction more than 2 times per round. Basically these games are for rank and it arent really funny  because players dislike it a lot. First and last reaction is just shit used by the noobs asnd i see it good to finish a day or to kill a guy to make 2 teams because there is one who is of more but not to make a full round as some cts do

I hope that you like my suggestions to improve the server and if you have any doubt or complain or want to add more suggestions, you are welcomed. Thanks for reading!  :)


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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2015, 10:35:02 pm »
Hello Jailbreak players,

After too much thinking and playing, I am here to give some proposals to improve the server and make it funnier and enjoyable, so let's go!

1| Change a bit the rules, the server should have more freedom to act, let me explain it: The current rules dont let admins do fun ny things more away than traditional games without use amxmodmenu but why shouldnt we to have fun? With it i dont mean to abuse (as many of you know i usually do, this isnt a secret) if not to have fun. like " first terror who answer will choose a terror to get uberslap or
if a team loses they get fire and die, things like this. Of course prisoners can get more freedom.

2| Maps: there are many maps which never are played because players dont like or are boring, so i suggest to delete these maps and add others by doing a topic where players can suggest maps and make a votation and the most voted maps can be added to try it.

3| delete the shop which only brings problems and add RTD (roll the dice) or simply add other mods to get fun in the server, not strictly expensive shop which is never used except for one nade each 500 rounds

4| Add more admins, and this is urgent. Only me and sometimes MonsterCat are the only admins who play JB, the rest of the admins are inactive, they never play except 1-2 times per month they appear and only two of them xD the others could be demoted and the server wouldnt feel the difference so admins should be urgently added even promote active players to admin status making them do an admin app and accepting asap (of course trust players, not only 2 active and doesnt know that there exist a forum)

5| change if possible the configuration os some special days, like nightcrawler which is very dark and it should be less for example

6| remove VIP statment which only emperors have for free and which i think is unfair for the other players and doesnt really give a nice benefit to the communit and instead of it add to the server new clothes or complements to the players to make it like more enjoyable, it can bring a lot of fun to the server saying " hey look at my hat " "hey mine is better" and that stuff which is normally liked by the players

7| not do only HNS once per map, if not 2 becuase players love HNS and i think that do it 2 can be amazing

8| remove useless games like handicap day, silent day and first and  last reaction more than 2 times per round. Basically these games are for rank and it arent really funny  because players dislike it a lot. First and last reaction is just shit used by the noobs asnd i see it good to finish a day or to kill a guy to make 2 teams because there is one who is of more but not to make a full round as some cts do

I hope that you like my suggestions to improve the server and if you have any doubt or complain or want to add more suggestions, you are welcomed. Thanks for reading!  :)

I'll my comments on this

1) Make a few suggestions in the 'rule format' so if accepted can straight go in there, this would be cool if you could do this. This helps us by the way! So if you're replacing a rule put the current one and then the suggested updated one.

2) We're always asking for suggestions but i went through and deleted(made them non accessible but they may come on rotation so we'll delete them later.

3) I'm sure we could think about it or review the shop system

4) Yeah this is a real problem but we can't just accept anyone because that'd be wrong and cause the potential problems and there's around 5 admins who are semi active/active. These are you(Which isn't as active as you think ;)) monster, me, pinky and proto.

5) Why? I personally like the current config of nightcrawler but some i agree could definately be edited like the samurai HNS with added godmode for CT for 10 seconds so they're not instakilled.

6) Hmmm, vip status is tricky as it brings in revenue and to be honest i quite like being a VIP and the benefits feel special to me so i don't agree with this XD

7) HNS one day per map is just a generic rule so i'm sure if it's wanted it's not impossible to do.

8) I agree HOWEVER, we did rework it so it can only be used if the day's are hard to control (E.G. Xmf where if you get them all in the cage it's an accomplishment) and sometimes you need that little extra rule to help you make the days better


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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2015, 10:36:07 pm »
Hey Smiley,

I don't know if you were on the last Jailbreak meeting we had with Refresh and the others, but according to your suggestions I guess you have missed it.

Let me enlighten you with the outcome of the meeting since we do not have Jailbreak High staff yet:

1| We went through all the rules, and we only found that the vent rule is that little thing that prevents some fun. We also changed some rules, I think that Refresh updated the rules a bit. In order to re-change the rules Again (which is too often and not good), we will have to hold another meeting with the new Jailbreak high staff.

2| We chose specifically which maps are "killing" our players. That was our second step towards the server, delete all that big list (because we do not play on 80% of the maps over there (reason: boring)), and add some old maps which will bring back the JB spirit and introduce some new maps. However because of resignation we cannot continue working on this until we find JB high staff.

3| We talked about the shop and how bad days end up because of that = Rioting and stuff.. We sure do know that riot is the primary objective, but every day spent rioting is no fun, and no one will be willing to be CT. So our third step is to bring the RTD back with some features deleted, and some added, however if it is compatible with the codes/plug-ins we have (made by Tony).

4| Jailbreak server is a very sensitive server, I consider that server as a Female (laugh if you want), because if 1 admin does a little tiny mistake it ends up pretty bad for the server. So that's why we have to be careful when it comes to choosing. Secondly everyone is aware that there are a lot of new Players who are good, but not always experience and good attitude is required. We need loyal admins, so we cannot rush that one no matter how bad we need admins. Also sometimes it happens all of our administrators to be occupied with something after all we all have some obligations. Sorry for that.

5| Special days are all fine, they never were changed and I doubt they will be changed because actually this is the first complaint about a special day. "Too dark" - It is supposed to be like that, that is why it is made like a plug-in.

6| VIP is not really a crucial problem if you ask me, and I don't mind Emperors to have that, after all, if the Emperors were not here, we wouldn't have the server we have today, so I think it is a good way to show off, without making any actual problems on servers.

7| HNS day is considered as a "Ranking day" for CTs. No matter how hard people want HNS about 80% of Ts are complaining about that day so thats why we reduced it to 1 per map. We do not CTs to be Rankers, we want Fun CTs, where killing is the last alternative.

8| Games like Handicap and Silent days (and e.t.c.) were also discussed on the meeting and we came to conclusion to delete some as soon as possible.


I hope that you will understand my response, no matter if I have found many of your suggestions as negative.
However thank you for your time, suggestions and understanding,

Cheers,
Popay

Offline Alberto

Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2015, 11:01:16 pm »
Well as I can see we are all by now agree with number 1,2,3 and 8. About the others, well:

4| I know about some players who fit perfeclty the role of admin after see all the players after so many hours of game ad i am pretty sure that they could do a perfect job as admin, trust me, i know what im saying

5| I know these games were made to be like that, but we can fit the games as we like them to be

6| I know it is not crucial to remove but  my important suggestion was about add clothes that you could buy and change with points or just add new clothes each week because maybe it is something that you dont see a lot but when there is a change, all feel it

7| If i am honest i have never seen a player complaining about HNS to be a rank day or cts stop rankiong with HNS xD they always use to request HNS all time so i dont see  bad do it 2 times per map

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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2015, 12:02:32 am »
i would like to add one more suggestion :

how about the most creative anf funny commander competition ( per month )
because in my opinion the only thing ruining the fun in jb : is the boring commanders and the lack of the good funny creative cts
 
and best rebeller too
i think it will help commanders be more creative and prisonners too
make the prise : 1 week a free VIP in the server would be very nice

EDIT : and also clear  this board ( jb board )
a lot of old forgotten topics
« Last Edit: January 30, 2015, 12:58:23 am by BucKK »

Offline poseidon_900

Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2015, 12:27:36 am »
Great suggestions, i played in this server a long time ago and there used to be so much freedom, now its got a bit repetitive, when we have someone like smiley online we know we are in for a surprise.

I hope changes are made it will make everyone happier :D

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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2015, 03:08:57 pm »
Totally agree with 1,2,8

3) Low-cost shop (or too many pts do be specific) caused a lot of problem of the CTs as we all know.. RTD was fun if it would work along with the server plugins

6| remove VIP statment which only emperors have for free and which i think is unfair for the other players and doesnt really give a nice benefit to the communit and instead of it add to the server new clothes or complements to the players to make it like more enjoyable, it can bring a lot of fun to the server saying " hey look at my hat " "hey mine is better" and that stuff which is normally liked by the players

You know the reason why they are 'VIP' skins? other than revenue those skins would remain VIP till few people access them. It is our nature that anything we have in mass abundance wont be felt as 'special' or 'vip'. We wont enjoy it as much as we do now, though the idea of a bit change in skins with pts, etc is fine

7| If i am honest i have never seen a player complaining about HNS to be a rank day or cts stop rankiong with HNS xD they always use to request HNS all time so i dont see  bad do it 2 times per map

Although some maps are fun to play HNS in but most of the times i've seen a CT do HNS when he is unable to control the terrorists. Its an easy way to rank on the prisoners as they cant use guns or they get banned/kicked. Allow me to ask you a few things :) :
- Why dont prisoners choose HNS in SDs (when its available, & most of the times it is) if they like it so much?
- Whats the point of doing an HNS in maps like jail_projetocs? CTs oft do it

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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2015, 11:06:02 am »
Totally agree with 1,2,8

3) Low-cost shop (or too many pts do be specific) caused a lot of problem of the CTs as we all know.. RTD was fun if it would work along with the server plugins

6| remove VIP statment which only emperors have for free and which i think is unfair for the other players and doesnt really give a nice benefit to the communit and instead of it add to the server new clothes or complements to the players to make it like more enjoyable, it can bring a lot of fun to the server saying " hey look at my hat " "hey mine is better" and that stuff which is normally liked by the players

You know the reason why they are 'VIP' skins? other than revenue those skins would remain VIP till few people access them. It is our nature that anything we have in mass abundance wont be felt as 'special' or 'vip'. We wont enjoy it as much as we do now, though the idea of a bit change in skins with pts, etc is fine

7| If i am honest i have never seen a player complaining about HNS to be a rank day or cts stop rankiong with HNS xD they always use to request HNS all time so i dont see  bad do it 2 times per map

Although some maps are fun to play HNS in but most of the times i've seen a CT do HNS when he is unable to control the terrorists. Its an easy way to rank on the prisoners as they cant use guns or they get banned/kicked. Allow me to ask you a few things :) :
- Why dont prisoners choose HNS in SDs (when its available, & most of the times it is) if they like it so much?
- Whats the point of doing an HNS in maps like jail_projetocs? CTs oft do it
They like it a lot but they dont choose because HNS can be done one per map but not the others, thats why it are called special days XD they sometimes choose samurai HNS.

Forget about VIP, but the idea of buying clothes by points is nice, it can be done easily for sure  :)

These proposals should be taken into consideration

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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2015, 01:19:04 pm »
Lo & Behold.. hahah

I got a valid support with my argument
Buckk just got reported as he started HNS more than once :D

Besides it is possible to have more than one HNS per map even now.. Not every HNS has to be started 'officially' by an admin

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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2015, 03:12:03 pm »
You still play first and last reaction all these years? :D

The only time I remeber fun was when the rules were braked and cts didn't care about any ranks.

These many rules have destroyed Ambro Jb as it was years ago. Even now when recently I've played Csgo jB, guys in other places are not all about rules rules rules..

Sad to see that even after years you are struggling to get rid of rules, that half of them should be abolished Imho.

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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2015, 03:47:15 pm »
You still play first and last reaction all these years? :D

The only time I remeber fun was when the rules were braked and cts didn't care about any ranks.

These many rules have destroyed Ambro Jb as it was years ago. Even now when recently I've played Csgo jB, guys in other places are not all about rules rules rules..

Sad to see that even after years you are struggling to get rid of rules, that half of them should be abolished Imho.

you sound like played Jb in the 19th century  :o

piece of advice: just go JB and tell them rules have been abolished.. then watch the havoc  :P

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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2015, 10:15:23 pm »
i agree with 1,2 and buckk suggestion (best ct per month)
and if they add Freeztag and snowball Sd it would be awesome
+ removing some twins maps like (jb_snow = jb _oasis = jb_rush)
adding some fun plugins would be awesome too
and change the shop by adding fd for 1500points  and removing the overpriced stuff (a scout for 2000point)
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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2015, 03:42:12 am »
Rtd cannot be seriously be added in my opinion because if the following:

1. It is way unstable and not compatible with 90% of the plugins. It does what it does in a very stupid manner, I think the dev that made it had the thought that only his plugin was going to be installed on the server, or simply he does not know how to do it any better. That's why it is unapproved.

2. Rtd is way more OP than the shop. It gives the players the ability to get stuff that are OP. Godmode? Really? Noclip? Are you serious?

3. In the shop, you have to earn the points to buy something. But in rtd it's just handing it out for free which makes the server run into chaos quite easily.

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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2015, 06:56:02 am »
If we had RTD, RC explosive cars (once tested by refresh) and cheap 1 bullet weapons, then the only way to balance the teams is making the ratio CT1 : 2T

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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2015, 07:13:53 am »
If we had RTD, RC explosive cars (once tested by refresh) and cheap 1 bullet weapons, then the only way to balance the teams is making the ratio CT1 : 2T

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Re: Proposals for improve the server
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2015, 10:27:12 pm »
There will soon be changes and improvements in the server, don't worry.

Thank you for your suggestions though, will be considered.