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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2015, 05:54:43 pm »
You know why there was no mention of Christianity? Because there was no motive of Christianity behind his mass-murder.

The inspiration behind the attack of those two, although not Islam in it's pure form, was Islam nonetheless.

See the difference?

No I don't actually. From what I understood, you/people think Islam orders to kill. If so, Allah/God whatever you want to call it says in the Qur'an;

"Killing one man, is like killing the whole humanity". But of course, there are conditions which killing is allowed (common-sense) i.e. Wars(Holy Wars), Vendetta, Protection... But this is the case for every religion. Someone tries to kill you and if the only way to stop them is killing them, then so be it.

People, even some Muslims themselves DO NOT KNOW ISLAM. So my objection is like always, stop (speaking generally) reasoning Islam behind every "terror" attack done by a guy with a beard.
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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2015, 06:02:50 pm »
I don't think Rawr ever mentioned the Islam orders to kill however, an attack that same day (not sure if it was this one) was claimed by Al qauida with islamic reasoning. Not to mention when they started shooting the were shouting Allah Akbar! The attack has a religic background whatsoever.

'The christian attack' never had any religion background when it came down to it, therefore that is the reason christian was never named in the head title.


At least, that's my thoughts behind this


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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2015, 06:05:21 pm »
Please re-read my post.

I never said Islam is ordering to kill anybody or even source of all terrorism and I think it's a stupid generalization that is unfair towards Islam, but on the other hand you can't deny majority of the attacks do indeed from people with wrong interpretation and strong naivety towards Islam.

One thing is accusation and other is keeping up with actual numbers.

And I'm sorry, but if you claim that the reasoning behind their mass-murdering is not Islam, then you are in a bit of a denial. I'm not saying that's what Islam is about, but it was the motivation behind the attack, there's no denying to that.

Also, read Pim's reply

I don't think Rawr ever mentioned the Islam orders to kill however, an attack that same day (not sure if it was this one) was claimed by Al qauida with islamic reasoning. Not to mention when they started shooting the were shouting Allah Akbar! The attack has a religic background whatsoever.

'The christian attack' never had any religion background when it came down to it, therefore that is the reason christian was never named in the head title.


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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2015, 06:10:20 pm »
I understood both of your posts. I did say, "you/people" & "Speaking generally" so how about both of you re-read my post :D

Even if it has nothing to do with religion, a Muslim guy does something bad, Islam is blamed. If the guy is a Christian, Jew or something else, it has nothing to do with religion or in fact like Anders Behring Breivik, they did it because of sanity.

That's how it is. That is what I am objecting against. I haven't given any names with my posts.
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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #84 on: January 11, 2015, 02:34:00 am »
'The christian attack' never had any religion background when it came down to it, therefore that is the reason christian was never named in the head title.

I think you just told yourself that the media is screwd up didn't you? :) (When Muslims do terror (ISLAM TERRORISME CNN) if Christians do Terror ( "There was an Attack")

It's like: US Army bombs islamic states, no one bothers, binladen tries to tell US that they do not give up so fast, 9/11 happens, each single muslim is blamed. Well gege.

"A swiss in my work calls us: Ticking bomb, all act nice one day all will blow up each city" LOL

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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #85 on: January 11, 2015, 12:14:46 pm »
'The christian attack' never had any religion background when it came down to it, therefore that is the reason christian was never named in the head title.

I think you just told yourself that the media is screwd up didn't you? :) (When Muslims do terror (ISLAM TERRORISME CNN) if Christians do Terror ( "There was an Attack")

It's like: US Army bombs islamic states, no one bothers, binladen tries to tell US that they do not give up so fast, 9/11 happens, each single muslim is blamed. Well gege.

"A swiss in my work calls us: Ticking bomb, all act nice one day all will blow up each city" LOL

The difference between those is: The guy happened to be christian, just like someone happens to be jewish or an atheïst. They did what they did because they are simply ****** up.

With these current attacks: They also happen to be muslim. The difference however is, most of the time they did what they did because of religious reasons.

If a christian kills 20 muslims: head title will be: christian kills 20 muslims.
If a christian kills 20 people: ****** up insane dude went full retard
So why the difference? Both situations a christian kills 20 people. It is because of his intention to do so, whereas in one situation he did it because of religious reasons (and being fucked up) and in the other he did what he did because he simply is: fucked up

This is not media being ****** up, this is just using what is actually important to the subject and leaving things out what is not.

Also, that guy at work is simply retarded. Would also be a generalisation to think every white boy thinks like that. A percentage of people are simply retarded. I have always said i petty the actual muslims because what IS and Al Qaida shows us, is not the true religion. It would be too big of a generalisation to say all muslims are like that however, terrorist attacks lately have a high percentage of muslim involvement.
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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #86 on: January 11, 2015, 03:28:51 pm »
Who said Islamic state and al qaida don't do what islam really tells them to do
When the usa is bombing them with their f-16 they kill hundreds of them.
But if Islamic state kills an American soldier they are the terrorist
Who came up first killing the other side simple answer us and its allies
So suddenly if someone fought back defending their self or what they believe vs some one who is already bombing them is called terrorism
You came to our land and started it
We will be at your land coming for you
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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #87 on: January 11, 2015, 04:18:02 pm »
Who said Islamic state and al qaida don't do what islam really tells them to do
When the usa is bombing them with their f-16 they kill hundreds of them.
But if Islamic state kills an American soldier they are the terrorist
Who came up first killing the other side simple answer us and its allies
So suddenly if someone fought back defending their self or what they believe vs some one who is already bombing them is called terrorism
You came to our land and started it
We will be at your land coming for you
It's not the same those who kill innocent defenceless people are cowards and considered as terrorists like they did with Charlie Hebdo magazine pretending to defend the prophet because they drew his face, but the problem they kill in the name of the Islamic religion like Islam tell people to kill other people just like that and without any reason, we deny this act of murder and so as the Islamic religion since these guys had their brain washed by some other extremists whom their mission is to tarnish the religion's reputation, but they wont because the whole world know that they don't have anything to do with Islam and they don't make difference between a Muslim or a Christian or a Jew because they have their brain washed and in the crime scene in Paris the officer who was trying to defend Stefan Sharb who was one of the members of Charlie Hebdo's magazine was a Muslim and they got him killed with cold blood and his name was Ahmed Mrabat and everyone saw the knockout on ground.

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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #88 on: January 11, 2015, 04:47:24 pm »
Who said Islamic state and al qaida don't do what islam really tells them to do
When the usa is bombing them with their f-16 they kill hundreds of them.
But if Islamic state kills an American soldier they are the terrorist
Who came up first killing the other side simple answer us and its allies
So suddenly if someone fought back defending their self or what they believe vs some one who is already bombing them is called terrorism
You came to our land and started it
We will be at your land coming for you

If you are endorsing these kind of attacks , sorry to tell you but you are a sick twisted person.

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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #89 on: January 11, 2015, 05:10:58 pm »
Who said Islamic state and al qaida don't do what islam really tells them to do
When the usa is bombing them with their f-16 they kill hundreds of them.
But if Islamic state kills an American soldier they are the terrorist
Who came up first killing the other side simple answer us and its allies
So suddenly if someone fought back defending their self or what they believe vs some one who is already bombing them is called terrorism
You came to our land and started it
We will be at your land coming for you

If you are endorsing these kind of attacks , sorry to tell you but you are a sick twisted person.

I think he actually doesn't really care that the US for example was terrified after 9/11, simply cuz probably his grandgrandfathers has been killed by the US army and many more of his country, just like that. He might believe the terrorists are the US (Which I agree on, in a few cases) yet the "Paying back like that" ain't the solution. Anyway,

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Re: Gunmen in Paris Kill 12 at Offices of Satirical Newspaper
« Reply #90 on: January 11, 2015, 05:33:13 pm »
It was a nice topic.. It was.. We had a good chat until someones are "tough" with words or as I say Internet warriors.

It was only for discussion no personal stuff but, thats it.. :)

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May all innocent killed people (no matter of religion) rest in peace..  :(