"The full story" or "Why people are silly to jump to conclusions"

[Ray]

Great thread, but the reason i left is not entirely because Next leaving.
I left due to the lack of appreciation to our work as highstaff. Rule breaking is getting ignored. And when i ask for rules to be applied, i get ignored. Ignoring people who are trying to help won't get you anywhere.
After tai and Next's fight over ts3 server groups and client permissions, i did not pick a side between them. (you can ask both of them)
I only asked Raven to add rules about the rights to prevent further fights and if he doesn't want to add the rules, he can ask me to give him the suggestions i have and either agree on them or not. (This is in the topic i made about TS3 reformation in FM board if you want to check)

I got ignored enough, so i left. Simple as that.
Rawr's side of the story is right, but it only got the last part of it.
And this ts3 problem isn't the only problem i've encountered, it's 1 of many.

[RAMBATEN]

Not to be offence..But ambrosia still has double faced staff...You will see it eventually...

The thing is most of loyal "staff" are moving another community and seeking to get easy ranks and power..I wouldnt even be supprised if one of ucs and head admins leave here for the POWER..

Shark & Piranchas are still the ones who made this all happen..Ambrosia still have higher ranked staff who has none interested of CS 1.6 or CS:GO..The only thing they do is play LoL..Wake up to this day finally...

What Ambrosia do with Emperors who has no keen ex. CSGO or cs 1.6 personally..Just withdraw your ranks and wait if someone willing to take them over...

I aint racist but this triangle of Lebanese bois...Hope they wont be accepted higher staff in rival community..If they will...I will say only that community will fall....

PS. Didnt read all...too much text....

[lopedog]

Didn't realise I'd arrived in time for the Eastenders special

['PL']

Only liked rambo's post about the lebanese.

If that MG community stayed ;(

[Ed]

I am sorry Samuel, but I believe you have portrayed the story from your perspective or lets say prettying things up. I will come back to the topic as I'd really like to add things to the story and I believe Roni has a lot to say as well. Please don't lock the topic.

[Rawrplus]

I am sorry Samuel, but I believe you have portrayed the story from your perspective or lets say prettying things up. I will come back to the topic as I'd really like to add things to the story and I believe Roni has a lot to say as well. Please don't lock the topic.

Of course the story that I posted is portrayed from my perspective, obviously if I tried to be as objective as possible it still would be a subjective post, given what the post is about. You can't however deny what I posted there all didn't really happen and I don't see a reason to dwell into in any further.  We obviously have different point of views on the situation, just like everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but I think at the moment going deeper into the issue would just be a waste of time and honestly I don't wish to anymore, I've stated my point of view and I intend it to be the last time I'll ever mention it, so honestly I think it would be better if we left it how it is.

I don't see how nitpicking about what we said and how we see each and every detail of the argument would help the situation at all, if anything, I think it would only create more issues, reason why I posted this is because I wanted to do my final wording on the situation and not to ever mention it again, once and for all. I'd gladly put the things in the past and carry on and you know that this would end up just as careful wording with no real right or wrong to the argument, so to be really honest with you, I'd be quite appreciative of you if you didn't, I want to move on, not be stuck here arguing about about what you, I or anybody agrees or disagrees with.

I don't think it's worth the hassle.

[Ed]

The thing is that Shark didn't even put the full story out, or as you said it isn't highly accurate. But you are either misinformed about some of the things you said or lied yourself. Specially about Roni's leaving.
So if you wanted to have the full story expect us to correct you on some bits, I can help there as I was around and my words are more  non involved as I tried not to be involved, but of course did. I see both sides right and wrong, but you know yourself, we talked about it and you know what I will say.

I cannot right now, will do tonight or tomorrow.

[dAmss.MSI]

Too many changes since the past 2 years..

I can't even feel the harmony between the staff..

[Santa]

My eyes are dead after reading each word here, i have nothing to say since rawr have explained everything, thanks a million him, as he said in conclusion i hope the me and the rest of the highstaff team will stick and begin a new start with more hope, also hoping people understand that ambrosia is always here for each and every member to enjoy its servers and forums.

LongLiveAmbrosia!

[Timmer|Lv]

I can see double letters 

but nice to hear what's been happening behind the scenes

thanks for sharing

[thEnd]

Lets remember the creation of demolition?


The wave of leavers were massive back then, many new hopes were back then. If you would analyse the reasons for people leaving back then and now, they mostly match. Its harsh realisation that nothing have changed, how the people behave, trying to get something done etc..


Ambrosia havent done great indeed, many wrong decisions have left community to struggle in a fight to take top ranks, however the global fps games have changed, and as for "gaming community with 1.6 as the base" its not that easy to hold people around.


But if even ambrosia is not done right, it doesnt mean that new trio of shark, roni and sami will be answer on all your questions - why ambrosia is not top community any more..


Look on the leavers tab, and look who are creating hydra now, they are just another ambrosian ppl, not a new, fresh ppl from outside. If you decide to leave ambrosia to join hydra, you actually will not leave ambrosia, you will be in the same place, just different owners of forums and under new slogan..


Good luck with your decisions, but ambrosia still is just round here not somewhere else..

[Lazarus]

TL;DR

[NexT]

Good post @Rawrplus But if you really wanna show everything to the public then why don't you tell them the reason i called ambrosia a playground and not a community ?
And also try to mention other reasons that made me leave too please its not only about leaking.

Also people leaving not because they can't see whats happening but the exact opposite, They can see that the current staff team (not all) some of them are super bad which is destroying ambrosia day by day and if you don't believe me you can go by yourself and check the leaving board how many leavers are leaving day by day because of this super bad attitude and actions taken.

[RAMBATEN]

The neighbour's yard aint always greener my frend 

Well the higher problem is the lack of vision in Ambrosia. I respect Casper as owner and deliver for Ambrosia future..But there have to come major chances in this community.

CS:GO and some new game is the answer..Stop guys living in past and that's what cs 1.6 is nowadays..I don't want anything bad for Ambrosia....

You really have to move this community on higher grounds and more official one...The traffic will get you there, but nonsteam will not.

[NexT]

@Phantoms I would like to repeat for the 100th time, They left not because we left but because they see how ambrosia has turned to.
You are ambrosia ? Well I'm sorry to let you down but ambrosia has turned to a really bad playground mate,Yes playground.

[header]

Even though i like you guys, As i've been involved with this quite alot i couldn't see anything wrong with what was said..

[SilverQuick]

Thanks for posting this Rawr, appreciated.

[~RoN]

Please do not lock the topic because i think we all deserve ti say what we really saw from our prespective.

Will post later at night.

[Rawrplus]

Please do not lock the topic because i think we all deserve ti say what we really saw from our prespective.

Will post later at night.

I'm sorry, I do not wish this topic to turn into another field of arguments, if you wish to do this, do it on your own forums, I don't want to have more drama here than it already has been.
I know it may sound unfair, but now it's not the time and we got more important things to focus on.

I understand this might upset you and no I'm not trying to hide anything under a rug, if you wish to post your version, feel free to publish it and I'll gladly even read it, but this is not the place and time to do so, so be that kind a let us focus on working on the community as I don't want any more petty fights regarding this matter on here.

I don't have anything to hide and you have already posted your version regardless just didn't make it public. I'm sure you will post your reply to this as well but I don't want that on our forums. If you wish to stick to beating a dead horse, then you are more than free to do so, but I don't see why personal matters like these should be a subject of public discussion. I want to get this over with and that's why I made it my final post about it, as my form of summing it up in hope the case is closed and not in need to be reopened again and I don't have anything else to add to it and if you really want to dwell on this, then be that kind and don't drag me or the community into it. I see there's much more important stuff to currently focus on here then arguing about indifferences in point of view on the situation. I hope you understand my reasoning, simply put, I want this community to move on and not be here solving this.


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