Admin Abuse

[Venum]

Admin: RayW
Server: Ambrosia 1v1 Arena
Date & Time: 14/12/2014 - 21:54
Complaint: Banning for pretty petty reasons and also being pretty rude when I talked to him.
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): http://gyazo.com/f61b8530e8bab4ac9ac37d2268da4365

[tajski]

Can you elaborate as to why RayW may of felt provoked? Is there a reason behind it?

[ℓσкαтσя]

Very weird and an unfair reason to ban someone for. But still, we need to hear ray's side about this.


@Pim check the logs if you can and search for the "having a bad day" conversation thing.

[Venum]

I joined the server earlier that day with the address of the community I am part of after my name and was playing without problems until later that day I came back with the same name but Ray apparently wasn't happy I was 'advertising' on the server. That's like banning someone for a clan tag

[Hajrulla]

Did you even check the screenshot...
www.eLemennT.com

[D00M]

Wait... what? You're reporting a admin who banned u for advertising which is NOT allowed in ambrosia?

[Andrew`]

So no kick or warning him to change it AND telling the player he'll be banned permanently next time and all this for a link that isn't even advertising a community and saying "having a bad day"? Hell of initiatives here. Nicks change but people don't. How long was the ban for, if I may ask, just to conclude my personal view on this?

[Pim]

Ban length was 10 minutes.

I'll check logs later, don't draw conclusions if you have no idea what happened!

[Andrew`]

Ban length was 10 minutes.

I'll check logs later, don't draw conclusions if you have no idea what happened!

Coclusions are drawn based on proof provided, taking actions without hearing both sides is something else.

[tajski]

Advertising is not allowed on the server and from the screenshots provided you were provoking RayW with the link in your name. I mean (www.com), it's nothing huge to be bothered about but obviously if you want to advertise your community then consider doing so privately as we don't wish anyone doing so. I'm pretty sure that whether it's something that you write in the chat or have it in a nickname. We don't allow any kind of advertisements therefore a 10 minutes was a wise choice. I'll admit that RayW did go a bit too far with mentioning a permanent ban next although I will take it as a "warning" tactic.

Anyway, I will leave this to Pim and his little investigation.

[Pim]

Ban length was 10 minutes.

I'll check logs later, don't draw conclusions if you have no idea what happened!

Coclusions are drawn based on proof provided, taking actions without hearing both sides is something else.

You can't make conclusions without having any information, i reckon you should know that as panel member but that's not my piece of cake

You may also help tsi

[Fisu]

I don't mind players having links in the name. After all players can decide wether they wanna play on our servers or not -  the good thing is our server's average is 32.4 (haha) and I don't give a potato if a crying kid now joins the community which has been advertised by an other crying kid blaming the server for not being able to kill somone.

(Venum, with this statement I DO NOT call you a crying kid, it's just my way of dealing with the fact somone is advertising.) I don't know what you did, and I played with you a few times you're a very respectfull player so don't think I attacked you with that statement.

Please correct me if my ways are wrong.

Thanks under, Im always happy for corrections =)

[Andrew`]

No offence but indeed it is not dear Pim as you admitted, and I personally have enough information myself, nobody told you I don't, and as a member of the panel I have to take ACTIONS based on both sides, but there is no rule or policy that does not allow me to post a single opinion based on one side of story, but as I mentioned, I do know both sides well dear fellow. Anyway, let's not continue here.

Fisu, I think it's "whether"

[Ed]

Undercloacked, that's not the way I taught you to post and draw conclusions is it?
You stay neutral at all times.

Besides, If someone is having a link in their nickname, I wouldn't bother warning them, I try to change their name and then kick them. It is disrespectful for people to even do that.

[Venum]

He did ask me to remove the advertising and I did. That's when I was banned for the first time.

[SilverQuick]

A simple nick change or a kick would be enough for a warning I guess anyway, that's what I often do with advertisers.

[Andrew`]

Undercloacked, that's not the way I taught you to post and draw conclusions is it?
You stay neutral at all times.

Besides, If someone is having a link in their nickname, I wouldn't bother warning them, I try to change their name and then kick them. It is disrespectful for people to even do that.

May I please know why the heck I am not allowed to post my opinion? This has nothing to do with the unban panel and I am not obligated to keep my mouth shut and be neutral if I do know things about the case. On the other hand, if you wanna tell me something do it in private, no need to make a fuss in a topic. And for the record, my job is not to stay neutral, on the contrary, it's to take the right place when necessary. Now, for the 2nd time, whether you guys like it or not, I posted my own opinion, can we move on please? There are other places to chat about my judgement.

Thank you.

[Venum]

Also why is your MultiArena server advertised as 128 tick server when it isn't?

[Lazarus]

Okay, let's start off with this.

Venum's playing the server having a good day with the nickname "Venum www.*censored*.com".
I kindly "Private Message" him asking to remove the link and he can play.
Venum asks me why? and I told him why so fair enough.
Venum changes his name to "Venum #RIPtoFreedomOfSpeech"

Venum invites his friends to join the server after this, which all have the same link www.*censored*.com in their names. (So venum thought it was funny to invite people with the same link in their name after this).
So I banned him for 10 minutes, he comes back and says "Ray having a bad day" and changes his name to Venum www.com trying to provoke me, so I do ban him again temporarily.

After speaking to you on steam, you lied and said "I am used to having links in my name" so that's why you used www.com, I checked your aliases and that was not the case.
+ The reason I said you will be perm banned next time you try and be cocky or provoke anyone, is obviously a clear warning for you not to do it again.

[Fisu]

Also why is your MultiArena server advertised as 128 tick server when it isn't?

You prefere 50% chocke or the tic it has now?