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Offline PAto.-

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2014, 02:53:03 pm »
Talking about this ultor, this question was meant to ULTOR, check his report, hes mentioning me ( when i joked and said "turn it off").
@Ray I'm on topic.

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Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2014, 03:07:03 pm »
Well, If you are angry with sb, dont just make a demo with minor issues, instead make multiple demos, enough for a report, like a funny compilation. You cant laugh at only 1 video, but watching the hole compilation will make you die laughting.

I'm sorry but I just dont get your point. What ur trying to say?

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Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2014, 03:10:08 pm »
Well, If you are angry with sb, dont just make a demo with minor issues, instead make multiple demos, enough for a report, like a funny compilation. You cant laugh at only 1 video, but watching the hole compilation will make you die laughting.

I'm sorry but I just dont get your point. What ur trying to say?
Being off-topic never means anything.
Stay on-topic everyone. Do not throw sarcastic jokes around.
This report isn't to "please" you.
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Offline PAto.-

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2014, 03:27:12 pm »
Well, If you are angry with sb, dont just make a demo with minor issues, instead make multiple demos, enough for a report, like a funny compilation. You cant laugh at only 1 video, but watching the hole compilation will make you die laughting.

I'm sorry but I just dont get your point. What ur trying to say?
Being off-topic never means anything.
Stay on-topic everyone. Do not throw sarcastic jokes around.
This report isn't to "please" you.
I know. but I was going to say that i joked and got kicked from NexT. so thats reason must be deleted.
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Offline Andrew`

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2014, 04:09:36 pm »
Ehm, excuse me fellas, since when multiple mistakes are a "minor" thing? You guys explaining the facts 1 by 1 and saying "you cannot report for that" makes it seem like he didn't report 10 actions from a specific player, an admin actually. However, combining all these shows there is some work to be done with reading the rules. Yes, dear friend NexT and everyone else, things like "Delaying the game" aren't big deals, but when combined with not counting properly, doing mistakes with Trivia questions and abusing the admin chat with things such as chinese hacks of w/e shows something, at least sometimes.

No hard feelings D00M, I don't know you, but you personally never "filled my eye"(like we say here in Greece), you don't take things as seriously as you're supposed to, I'm not saying you shouldn't be admin, but a hard mode like JB is like a "challenge" for admins, and you don't seem to do well with challenges, not saying that I would..

P.S. I would like people to stop licking Tasha's @$$, if you want a girlfriend go outside, I'm tired of seeing people ruining the game for her tastes(not talking only about this case), trust me, no girl's gonna love you if you do something for her in a JB server. And generally speaking, play the damn game properly, I haven't seen a good game since months, I've started to hate JB although I loved it.

My opinion: Not something worth taking a serious action, but there should be a small warning about re-reading the rules.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2014, 04:11:36 pm by Undercloacked »

Offline Pringles

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2014, 04:16:24 pm »
Ultor's report is valid, even if he may be wrong or not clear enough in some parts.

I will not quote the post since it will make my post look heavier.

So here you are my comments for each reason of Ultor's report.

1) D00M was wrong, he basically accused you wrongly while you did not reconnect. He indeed failed to use common sense.

2) D00M failed to show professionalism with this problem and misused the admin rights (SkuLL' reported him for the same reason and he already got warned for this).

3) NexT, even if the majority of the commanders (who should be punished) do that, D00M is a Jailbreak Administrator and like every Administrator, he should show example and help these who do not understand the rules instead of letting himself being influenced by those who disrespect them.

4) Basically we have already talked about this. It depends on the Administrator, on the dead Prisoner and on the Officers. If the Administrator wants to revive a dead Prisoner, he needs to ask for Officers' agreement. If the Officers agree then he can be revived, if the Officers disagree then he won't be revived and will probably have a Freeday if the Prisoner was freekilled by one of the Officers. Even though, this means that if an Administrator revives a Prisoner, he should alert the Officers about it. Because I have myself made this mistake, the mistake of not alerting the Officers about it, and well, you already know what happens if you do not let the Officers know about it.

5) This is a common sense issue again. D00M did not think about the lack of knowledge from the Prisoners about his real life and personality. Even though, I would not consider this as a big deal, but the common sense issue is being a problem.

6) Again, yes it's related about being an Administrator. He should show the example to the other players by respecting the rules.

7) Again he should be a good example. That's a common sense issue as well, he only took in consideration the regular players who knew he might be joking and not the other ones.

8) This is really the part I hate the most (nothing personal). I mean you see someone using a gun in HNS (not a big issue right? compared to someone who is heavily insulting), specially someone new, who had probably no idea about the Ambrosian Jailbreak Rules (because of what Ultor stated before, about you using your mic and not using amx_say) and you still decide to ban him for a freaking week. I mean this only shows that you lack seriously of common sense and that you are misusing the ban system (warn/kick/ban). And yes, WARN/KICK/BAN even if a guy uses a freaking gun in HNS. Because what? If that's the first time you see a guy in the server and that he used a gun then just warn/kick him. You will not only help him by not banning him but you will also help him by explaining him the HNS Day Rule and about the Ambrosia Community Forum.

9) Yes this is also really annoying. I already saw @CoiN # doing that or even other admins but you are just not respecting the Administration Regulations. You are not the god of the server, if you want to do something like change a map or even start a Special Day, always make a vote (even a vote to know if the map should be changed or if the day should be a Special Day or no).

10) The other issues.

a) Uses mic while dead : well, that depends if he was abusing it or no.
b) Freeshots accidentally but frequently : this shows that D00M is not CT Material.
c) Uses amx_say for useless communication : this is in the Administration Regulations as far as I know, you cannot abuse any command and using amx_say for useless communication is abusing the amx_say command.
d) Favouritism over other players : well yes and no, this needs to be discussed out.

Conclusion :

According to Ultor's report, D00M lacks a bit of common sense. He does not act with professionalism and misuses the Admin Commands either by abusing them or by using them wrongly. By this, he's being a bad example for the Jailbreak Players, he incites them to do what he does (wrongly) and does not help them at all.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2014, 04:21:23 pm by ReFresh »

Offline Noex'

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2014, 04:40:21 pm »
There you go a brief explanation of ReFresh's point of view aka totally right  , also you can't revive freekilled players if they do not agree to it  , also as an admin you need to show the new players the rules teach them and not ban a guy for 1 week for using HNS idk if it was hatred or you just acting like a 10 year old but he did kill YOU and if that made you rage then please , resign .

Offline tαshαღ

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2014, 05:09:46 pm »
P.S. I would like people to stop licking Tasha's @$$, if you want a girlfriend go outside, I'm tired of seeing people ruining the game for her tastes(not talking only about this case), trust me, no girl's gonna love you if you do something for her in a JB server. And generally speaking, play the damn game properly, I haven't seen a good game since months, I've started to hate JB although I loved it.


what you on about? doom made that up as being a joke, next already said i didnt ask for anything. no days are done especially for me and it has nothing to do with that so what are you on about lol??

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Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2014, 05:15:17 pm »
Tasha What is he on about??? For starters there is IArmy, and the rest i dont no the names of but there all like
- Be my gf
- tasha the best <£
- (iarmy) TASHA is amazing, i love tasha........

It does get annoying when that sall there is in chat

*EDIT*
This is not any hate towards you tasha
« Last Edit: December 09, 2014, 05:18:31 pm by TOX!C_DEMIS3 »
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Offline Spaff

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2014, 05:15:47 pm »
P.S. I would like people to stop licking Tasha's @$$, if you want a girlfriend go outside, I'm tired of seeing people ruining the game for her tastes(not talking only about this case), trust me, no girl's gonna love you if you do something for her in a JB server. And generally speaking, play the damn game properly, I haven't seen a good game since months, I've started to hate JB although I loved it.


what you on about? doom made that up as being a joke, next already said i didnt ask for anything. no days are done especially for me and it has nothing to do with that so what are you on about lol??

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Offline Hajrulla

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2014, 06:53:57 pm »
I have one question, did D00M get full admin rights without having the trial time?
It seems to be that he is trigger happy, I'd suggest to take him back to trial, see if he is ready and then make the final decision.
Refresh made a good explanation of the situation.
Tasha, stop acting like you don't know what Under was on about, most of the players in jailbreak are like : TASHA OMFG TASHA IS HERE XAXA ILY TASHA XOXO YAY,
and then you go on and argue with anyone who talks anything against you[including me], you talk about some things about woman rights and bla bla bla, like anyone cares, and in my opinion you are just looking for some attention from players.
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Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2014, 06:58:48 pm »
This topic is turning into a ridicilous kid-girlyfight.

@ReFresh

Lock it in order to keep it clean from these "tashalovers" <- Smarties will get it.

Offline 'PL'

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2014, 09:36:48 pm »
HEEEEEEEEEEEEY
Just a 4.5 year old grandpa passing by, brace yourself to read some lengthy and lengthy stuff.

Let's GO!

Representing side: Neutral(Nor with or against the reportant)
Affiliation with both parties: none

@Ray : Never use card's example to justify these minor things, remember why he had so much reports!? It comes to say that if he had reports when he was cl, how can you pinpoint that when he was administrator and forum moderator he was any different. Simply people got fed up, only good thing he did was made people laugh.

@Ultor
Vent acclaim: "95% of commanders", "can't report 95%". Hey, we got tasha here, ask her how many people she reported and how she was always right. The other thing is, Chaka Laka is a really satisfying commander and I cannot question his proficiency when he says there is something to improve. And the third thing about it, if the commander cannot successfully acquire a time which is needed for the prisoner to leave the vent he is under the category: I'M PANICKING. Therefore his adrenaline rush is never good when he is ct or administrator by that stretch.

Administrator Power acclaim:
Nothing really to say here, numbness and the urge to use administrator commands is never fitting for any administrator. Proper development of the problem isn't solved with a kick, it only ignites something bigger to happen.

Freeday acclaim: In standard jailbreak tradition and rules, if a prisoner is freekiled he is followed with a freeday next day. No creative shenanigans here, reviving is breaking the code. You know when we used revive, having 20 people reading up for a custom day which always some weren't interested and then in dead chat cried to get revived.

Personal Questions: Nothing to be said here, and is a rule breach.

Time management acclaim: In the case with chaka laka versus doom he can use this in his favor because chaka laka is some of the rare examples of ct's where he has a awareness of time and the attention span of the prisoners. So therefore he can justify that as a problem but even I can't completely agree with that because jailbreak at this current state of affair doesn't have a big spectrum of pleasant commanders. And is at stake that those unpleasant commanders have to engage into more thoughtprocess to make something new or creative which as well rarely happens.

Csay acclaim: I got warned and was near demotion because I used tsay many and many times, but then again I can't really deny or agree on whose side to support. I can also say that any human being likes some attention with csay =D
And I understand that the content of that casy was misleading to a player which got him kicked for saying that but doom being the whistleblower for it, yet we don't have a section in jailbreak for ethics and administrators being pedagogical or psychological examples to watch how their public image is presented.

Hns acclaim: This is a common problem and there isn't any solution, only if there are more then 3 administrators to have a tempo of informing everybody that is hns.
Also the ban for a week for using guns is absurd and can be argued on about

Favoritism is also something that we had to deal before in ambrosia and is not easily neglectable, in this viewpoint chaka laka can use this against doom because chaka laka doesn't have any relations with people to a level that he would give them advantages. I can't say anything about doom because I haven't seen him into action "yet".


Special days unless voted by the whole server with a special vote calling out: Special map day where every 'day' you have a special day has to be done in order for the administrator to be given freedom on selecting special days. And if he used "we died so fast" he can do the special day again but if only is obvious that it really happened.

Last acclaim:
Mic usage for administrators while dead or being t is forbidden unless the medium to relay something is only possible with the microphone from factorials like immediate response, limitation from the other mediums, articulation of it.
Everybody freeshots and in chaka laka's case him being quite cautions on his freeshots, you cannot bash him for how frequent it is. Doesn't mean I neccecarly disagree with you on this one but remember which year are we in and we used to be.
 

@Doom

The Hns issue is common, but you shouldn't have banned him for a week. Even 1 hour ban is ok, and by the way repeating something x amount of times doesn't follow the procedure of warn/kick/ban because you are sadly required to do that individually to everybody and not collectively.

I don't have no clue what you are on about with the bury and reconnecting. Is this some method of yours?

Here we have a conflict, you are saying that "EVERYBODY' everyone wanted that includes 100% of the populace yet there was just 1 exception. That isn't everybody in syntaxical meaning for one, then again you are being accused of favoritism with tasha. Could it be the case that for you tasha is a multiplier for that "everybody" quantification?

Most of your explanations don't answer the prosecutive developments of chaka laka, but only the demos. It doesn't have to mean that the demos should present 100% of the evident accusation but chaka laka gave his version of how things happened explaining your presumptive thoughtprocess, you are required to answer those not just looking at the demos and say "I rest my case".

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Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2014, 09:42:17 pm »
I only start a special day if theres less than 7 people and most says they want special day, since its obvious that special day is needed.




Offline Andrew`

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2014, 10:01:06 pm »
Sorry to post here again but Tasha, look the previous posts, I'm not on anything, we're there to play CS, I'm tired of wannabes and abusers and nowadays I don't wanna play my favourite mod. Either if it happened with D00M or not, I considered this a chance to spread an advice, similar things have happened before, if someone needs attention there are other places for it. Peace out.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2014, 10:04:09 pm by Undercloacked »

Offline tαshαღ

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2014, 10:05:50 pm »
rofl why are you making this thread about me? its not about me, there was a slight mention of my name when people said d00m made a day cos i asked for it and it was a lie i didnt ask for anything. i barely play CT anymore and play with friends but if you have a problem with people typing to me i can't help what they say. i don't know them personally and have no contact with them outside of jb and what theyre doing isnt against the rules. they do it to all the girls not just me so why the vendetta?

Offline Andrew`

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2014, 10:13:28 pm »
Oh god I mostly talked about D00M and also when your name got mentioned I found the chance to tell people to play the game(as it mostly happens with you), I didn't turn anything to you, I wasn't even talking to you, I said if someone wants to pay attention to you or someone else please do it through another way instead of being annoying in the server. Let's end it here as I never directed my speech to you before you replied. For anything else feel free to PM me.

Now, on topic, as most of us agree, some wrong actions were taken, so I guess a superior could resolve this.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2014, 10:16:17 pm by Undercloacked »

Offline D00M

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2014, 10:14:24 pm »
I am trully sorry for my actions, I have made some wrong decissions in my life, but who hasn't?

This report has "teached" me alot and for that I MYself think that I can make everyone happy with my new tactics and not abuse. No serious harm done for the players, but abuse is a abuse even when no harm was done.

From now on I will try to fullfill next duties:

    • I will try to be better ct and show more example to beginners.
    • I will not abuse
    • I will always make a vote for sd (expect for hns in some cases)
    • I will judge fairly from now on.
    • I will give equal action to everyone.
    • I'll be more serious from now on.
    • I will listen players more frequently
    • If somebody broke a rule I will ask why they did it before I take serious action.
    • I will try to make everyone feel comfortable, happy and safe in Ambrosia.
    • I'll take responsibility of my actions and take any punishment issued to me.
    • I will USE my common sense and also I'll be more patient.

I am trully sorry about those who thinks I've misused my powers and abused in the past. I will not do it in the future.

Afterall my accomplish will be to be friends with everyone and help people.

Kind regards,
D00M
« Last Edit: December 09, 2014, 10:17:15 pm by ReFresh »

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Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2014, 10:22:05 pm »
And change your signature! It freaks me out! :'(

Anyways, glad this has been solved in a fairly polite manner, although my opinion doesn't matter i myself am happy with pretty much all the involved their replies (refresh, doom etc)

Go ahead refresh, solve :D

Offline Pringles

Re: Reporting D00M (Jailbreak Admin)
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2014, 10:23:35 pm »
Solved.