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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2014, 12:24:50 am »
USA isn't the greatest country in the world so far maybe the most dominant in some economic and military things, but it's surpassed in many areas now by other developed nations which look only for progress and not to get involved with wars and so on let's take the education area for example USA isn't the best in this it's ranked the 6th behind the scandinavian countries let's take tourism it ain't also the best in it and we do know that there are so many countries which are way beautiful than the US right? :) it's so difficult to be the number 1 in everything wakie wakie Americans you're never the best. 8)

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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2014, 06:43:55 am »
There is no bubbles to burst. I've shared a nice "speech" where "American" is giving his "honest opinion" about usa as world dominant superpower. Yeah in military USA is doing great, same with printing bucks and dragging world into another downfall since 13bn and rising debt is impressive right?


Tasha you are talking about education and docs.. Here in UK I had a few workmates - Americans who got married in the UK.. They all said this one thing.. "You Europeans don't apriciate NHS aka free healthcare".

Education, I'm sorry but looking on the charts America only is having the most expensive universities, meanwhile average joe cannot afford it.. And now look edu charts, Scandinavia, Scotland - it's free.. Look how many students per 100k are in USA and compare it with northern Europe.

You can scrap American edu system unless you can afford to go to Stanford, Harvard or whatsoever..

Health, the best doctors... I'm sorry but do you know dentist fees in USA? Recently I've seen bil for giving a birth - 6k usd.. Social security is in really low levels and your "good doctors" can afford only the rich..Others must stick with Obamacare which is failed..

America is a dream land Idd, cheap petrol, big cars, a tiny chance to get lucky and live a true American Dream..

But for us - average ppl - Canada, Norway, Australia, Swiss, UAE, Singapore offers much better pay rates and much more better social security..

In USA nat min average (depending on state) is $7 ph! DC is $10 ph.. And plus you must pay a freaking expensive social insurance.. Meanwhile in Canada.. :D

USA is great! And also USA isn't great! Just like UK..
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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2014, 04:20:48 pm »
ok so american minimum wage is lower, and norway is higher. but if you go to norway the things are like 5x more expensive than they would be in america so it balances out. its still a wage that you can live on in america. we have a fairly low minimum wage in the UK also where you actually immigrated to so why would you move here if that was an issue? you can still live off minimum wage, maybe not a great life but you can live. if you work hard you go up and you earn a higher wage the same in every country. scandinavian countries pay a lot of tax in comparison to USA. if you read news in the countries you named they are filled with bad things about their country so the grass isnt always greener on the other side. AMERICA is great, scandi is great, most developed countries are great but they all have their unique traits. id be proud to be american the same as id be proud to be a lot of the first world countries out there :) the countries i wouldnt be proud of would be those with known corruption and extreme rates of poverty..

and when i said best doctors in USA it doesnt matter if you have to pay for it, what the doctors have achieved in terms of understanding illness and disease surpasses most other countries. yes you have to pay for it, but its not so bad if you have to pay for insurance. UK pays for healthcare just through taxes instead of health insurance..


oh & LOVE conspiracy theories sami. you're totally right, there is a cure for cancer but you know people wont release it because then they wont make $. 9/11 didnt happen and it was a government set up also and all those that knew about it are just heartless and would happily see thousands of their own nationality die in terror and no other world country will speak up about it, man never landed on the moon it was all fake even though now in 2014 we can land spacecraft on moving comets.

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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2014, 04:53:43 pm »
Yet, moon landings have been stopped, and no high teck imaging or videos have been made since the first "man landing" on the moon. Although there is nothing interesting about the moon? Erm, colonies could be made on the moon.
 Yet, the videos of the "planes crashing" are clearly a forgery, look into it and you will see. Yet, pills, vaccines, temporary fixes are a huge marketing  business which in return is a huge profit rather than find a real cure to Cancer, HIV, AIDS. Sure, you can say all these things as a counter argument, but you don't know for sure, you don't know 100% the truth and I have all right to disbelieve or doubt the facts specially what happened after 9/11.

It's funny about 9/11 tho. 2 Planes crashed in 2 Trade centre buildings, but 3 went down.
3rd plane crashed into pentagon, yet no plane was seen or documented, plus the damage made from the "apparent plane" didn't look at all like a plane crash, no leftovers nothing.

And the best, from the twin towers - they collected solid passports of the "terrorists", head band, but that was pretty much it from the crash site. Plus, 8 of the alleged "terrorists", are alive and never was on the bloody plane in the first place.

So I'd really like to know how this adds up the official story or lets say cover up? If you are so all knowing, how about you enlighten us miss?

I somewhat hate conspiracy theories, as because a lot of people are brain dead and they take everything for the conspiracy, yet I will not believe in every single one, there is plenty of "inconsistencies" in the official stories and what actually happened. So, forgive me for not believe in everything I have been thrown with, I apologize for not being a sheep of some sort to follow and believe I have been told.

Reminds me of people centuries ago believing the world was flat and those who said otherwise were classed as crazy. Get my drift?
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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2014, 05:06:11 pm »
Yet, moon landings have been stopped, and no high teck imagining or videos have been made since the first "man landing" on the moon. Although there is nothing interesting about the moon? Erm, colonies could be made on the moon.
 Yet, the videos of the "planes crashing" are clearly a forgery, look into it and you will see. Yet, pills, vaccines, temporary fixes are a huge marketing  business which in return is a huge profit rather than find a real cure to Cancer, HIV, AIDS. Sure, you can say all these things as a counter argument, but you don't know for sure, you don't know 100% the truth and I have all right to disbelieve or doubt the facts specially what happened after 9/11.

It's funny about 9/11 tho. 2 Planes crashed in 2 Trade centre buildings, but 3 went down.
3rd plane crashed into pentagon, yet no plane was seen or documented, plus the damage made from the "apparent plane" didn't look at all like a plane crash, no leftovers nothing.

And the best, from the twin towers - they collected solid passports of the "terrorists", head band, but that was pretty much it from the crash site. Plus, 8 of the alleged "terrorists", are alive and never was on the bloody plane in the first place.

So I'd really like to know how this adds up the official story or lets say cover up? If you are so all knowing, how about you enlighten us miss?

I somewhat hate conspiracy theories, as because a lot of people are brain dead and they take everything for the conspiracy, yet I will not believe in every single one, there is plenty of "inconsistencies" in the official stories and what actually happened. So, forgive me for not believe in everything I have been thrown with, I apologize for not being a sheep of some sort to follow and believe I have been told.

Reminds me of people centuries ago believing the world was flat and those who said otherwise were classed as crazy. Get my drift?

no its not a conspiracy. many things were salvaged from 9/11 to the point they have a whole museum dedicated to the things rescued. bodies were found in tact, the same as the plane that was shot out of the sky in ukraine, bodies were in tact completely even though they were blown up in the sky. amazing huh?

in regards to treating cancer you clearly dont understand how complex cancer is which is why they havent found a cure for it, plus the fact there many different types which all require completely different treatment. it really is astonishing to me that in 2014 and the evolution of the human race there are still people who think everything is a conspiracy. think of how many independent doctors there are who insanely intelligent, i don't see any of those coming out and saying there is a cure for every type of cancer. meanwhile you, someone who has no medical knowledge, no understanding of the way cancer operates, knows that there is already a cure?

9/11 was a disaster and was probably the greatest single terrorist attack that we will ever see in our life time and to put that to a conspiracy theory is an insult to all those who died and the memories that some people will be taunted with for the rest of their lives by seeing their loved ones obliterated on national TV. to organise something like that within the government and members of fire departments like its claimed would be massive, and to believe that not one of them involved if it was a conspiracy would have spoke up is ridiculous and stupid.

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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2014, 05:23:29 pm »
If you double check what he said, he does not say their already is a cure for cancer - he says that they would rather suck money out of people via treatments than find a cure. Which is at least partially true.
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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2014, 11:44:41 pm »
Yet, moon landings have been stopped, and no high teck imagining or videos have been made since the first "man landing" on the moon. Although there is nothing interesting about the moon? Erm, colonies could be made on the moon.
 Yet, the videos of the "planes crashing" are clearly a forgery, look into it and you will see. Yet, pills, vaccines, temporary fixes are a huge marketing  business which in return is a huge profit rather than find a real cure to Cancer, HIV, AIDS. Sure, you can say all these things as a counter argument, but you don't know for sure, you don't know 100% the truth and I have all right to disbelieve or doubt the facts specially what happened after 9/11.

It's funny about 9/11 tho. 2 Planes crashed in 2 Trade centre buildings, but 3 went down.
3rd plane crashed into pentagon, yet no plane was seen or documented, plus the damage made from the "apparent plane" didn't look at all like a plane crash, no leftovers nothing.

And the best, from the twin towers - they collected solid passports of the "terrorists", head band, but that was pretty much it from the crash site. Plus, 8 of the alleged "terrorists", are alive and never was on the bloody plane in the first place.

So I'd really like to know how this adds up the official story or lets say cover up? If you are so all knowing, how about you enlighten us miss?

I somewhat hate conspiracy theories, as because a lot of people are brain dead and they take everything for the conspiracy, yet I will not believe in every single one, there is plenty of "inconsistencies" in the official stories and what actually happened. So, forgive me for not believe in everything I have been thrown with, I apologize for not being a sheep of some sort to follow and believe I have been told.

Reminds me of people centuries ago believing the world was flat and those who said otherwise were classed as crazy. Get my drift?

no its not a conspiracy. many things were salvaged from 9/11 to the point they have a whole museum dedicated to the things rescued. bodies were found in tact, the same as the plane that was shot out of the sky in ukraine, bodies were in tact completely even though they were blown up in the sky. amazing huh?

in regards to treating cancer you clearly dont understand how complex cancer is which is why they havent found a cure for it, plus the fact there many different types which all require completely different treatment. it really is astonishing to me that in 2014 and the evolution of the human race there are still people who think everything is a conspiracy. think of how many independent doctors there are who insanely intelligent, i don't see any of those coming out and saying there is a cure for every type of cancer. meanwhile you, someone who has no medical knowledge, no understanding of the way cancer operates, knows that there is already a cure?

9/11 was a disaster and was probably the greatest single terrorist attack that we will ever see in our life time and to put that to a conspiracy theory is an insult to all those who died and the memories that some people will be taunted with for the rest of their lives by seeing their loved ones obliterated on national TV. to organise something like that within the government and members of fire departments like its claimed would be massive, and to believe that not one of them involved if it was a conspiracy would have spoke up is ridiculous and stupid.

If you actually look more into detail about 9/11 then I doubt you'd be satisfied with the official 9/11 report yourself. If you think it is normal for planes to make these massive structures fall at free fall speed for 2 seconds means there is absolutely no resistance from below, same with tower 7 which a lot of people don't know, fell into its own footprint and a plane didn't even hit it. In the history of steel structures, no building with a steel frame has ever collapsed due to fire alone until then.

If you think governments wouldn't kill their own on a false flag operation then look at how Vietnam war was started, based on the Gulf of Tonkin incident, it was a lie and it has been admitted which gave the go ahead for going into Vietnam which killed over 50,000 americans.
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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2014, 11:57:36 pm »
Aparently because steel skyscrapers were fairly neew then, they were built fairly structurally deficiently, or something like that, which is part of why it was so devastating. architechts felt overconfident about the strength of steel and overloaded it, so when anything went wrong, it was a massive faliure, entire building just falling apart instantly. But yes, there is fucked up shit everywhere. Conspiracists rarely make shit up - although prehaps they take it too far. In the 50s-70s america was doing lsd experiments, and torture experiments on its own citizens because of ussr etc. Massively damaged lots of people, mentally, physically etc. As far as countries go, america has done the most fucked up shit of any that proclaim freedom etc.

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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2014, 12:24:41 am »
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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2014, 02:42:18 am »
Yet, moon landings have been stopped, and no high teck imagining or videos have been made since the first "man landing" on the moon. Although there is nothing interesting about the moon? Erm, colonies could be made on the moon.
 Yet, the videos of the "planes crashing" are clearly a forgery, look into it and you will see. Yet, pills, vaccines, temporary fixes are a huge marketing  business which in return is a huge profit rather than find a real cure to Cancer, HIV, AIDS. Sure, you can say all these things as a counter argument, but you don't know for sure, you don't know 100% the truth and I have all right to disbelieve or doubt the facts specially what happened after 9/11.

It's funny about 9/11 tho. 2 Planes crashed in 2 Trade centre buildings, but 3 went down.
3rd plane crashed into pentagon, yet no plane was seen or documented, plus the damage made from the "apparent plane" didn't look at all like a plane crash, no leftovers nothing.

And the best, from the twin towers - they collected solid passports of the "terrorists", head band, but that was pretty much it from the crash site. Plus, 8 of the alleged "terrorists", are alive and never was on the bloody plane in the first place.

So I'd really like to know how this adds up the official story or lets say cover up? If you are so all knowing, how about you enlighten us miss?

I somewhat hate conspiracy theories, as because a lot of people are brain dead and they take everything for the conspiracy, yet I will not believe in every single one, there is plenty of "inconsistencies" in the official stories and what actually happened. So, forgive me for not believe in everything I have been thrown with, I apologize for not being a sheep of some sort to follow and believe I have been told.

Reminds me of people centuries ago believing the world was flat and those who said otherwise were classed as crazy. Get my drift?

no its not a conspiracy. many things were salvaged from 9/11 to the point they have a whole museum dedicated to the things rescued. bodies were found in tact, the same as the plane that was shot out of the sky in ukraine, bodies were in tact completely even though they were blown up in the sky. amazing huh?

in regards to treating cancer you clearly dont understand how complex cancer is which is why they havent found a cure for it, plus the fact there many different types which all require completely different treatment. it really is astonishing to me that in 2014 and the evolution of the human race there are still people who think everything is a conspiracy. think of how many independent doctors there are who insanely intelligent, i don't see any of those coming out and saying there is a cure for every type of cancer. meanwhile you, someone who has no medical knowledge, no understanding of the way cancer operates, knows that there is already a cure?

9/11 was a disaster and was probably the greatest single terrorist attack that we will ever see in our life time and to put that to a conspiracy theory is an insult to all those who died and the memories that some people will be taunted with for the rest of their lives by seeing their loved ones obliterated on national TV. to organise something like that within the government and members of fire departments like its claimed would be massive, and to believe that not one of them involved if it was a conspiracy would have spoke up is ridiculous and stupid.

I agree with somethings that you've said but if i'm honest 9/11 was a conspiracy in my opinion and even though i shouldnt believe everything on the internet i have watched some videos and read some articles on hard core evidence which says it is.

But i do agree about the cancer thing, there is no way in heaven that someone would cover up us actually having the cure.


Also something that sami said earlier about the landing on the moon -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhuX-UaQiS4

This is the interview for it but i'm sure you could go check out the actual episode ^.^


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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2014, 03:21:34 am »
Conclusions : tasha is in love with America :D

p.s. I've been working in Norway and Netherland, my father been living in USA and Australia for a few months and I do have friends around the world. America and UK unfortunately are not the greatest places where to be on the world..

But I never meant that I don't like these contries.. 

Conspiracy, Cancer, 9/11, AIDS, Ebola, Ukraine,.. We will never know the truth..

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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2014, 05:39:14 am »
USA is full of sh!t and nothing else... honest 8 words over here ...

If only whistleblowers still had courage and leak all the info about American government, US would go from 1 to 196th country in the world. It would be corrupt, no more stocks, businesses, nothing ... For an example take India. When "Mahatma Gandhi" burned his passport and became a leader of non-violent protest to gain the freedom over British ruled India, they stopped buying British product, and this is exactly what will happen to US in next few years.

Thanks to Obama.



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Re: Honest speech - USA is not great.
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2014, 01:40:17 pm »
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