Report: Jay [Moved to Unban Requests]

[PHENA]

I have been accused of cheating and apparently an admin has decided to ban me permanently, even though I'm not banned yet.

Thread: http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=29066.msg366751#msg366751
Reason: Accusing me of using a paid hack called "Organner". I've done some research and seen that these hacks don't even exist anymore (?)


I don't know why these conspiracy theories pop up. I kindly ask any admin who has played with me and spectated me in-game to support me. I admit the shot was very weird but I've never pulled off one like it before. How is this shot a reason to ban me permanently when I have more than a thousand kills in the server without a single one being cheated?

In addition to that, I use a Razer Abyssus that doesn't even have mouse3. I feel the need to explain how such a shot is possible because clearly the accuser has used hacks before and doesn't even know the fundamental aspects of Counter-Strike and GoldSrc. I jump and once I'm still and my descent begins, I take the shot while moving my crosshair towards his player's model. The timing is correct and it hits. If I was aimbotting, forcing the spread would cause "shaking" that would be extremely blatant. Including and especially the cheat names you linked that can't even force the spread in any way possible. Shame on you for even mentioning them in a gaming community.

There are thousands of these shots online, made either on official matches or deliberately for moviemaking purposes, especially in Global-Offensive. How am I cheating when I have thousands of hours played and also a thousand kills in the server without a single one of them being remotely weird? Maybe you should stop condemning players that are clearly years ahead of you in Counter-Strike. I motivate any admin who has seen me play to support me here.

I uploaded a short clip just to show that these are my "rare" shots that don't happen all the time.

['PL']

What in the world?


Jay said organner?
I mean, psh. I'm not some great player for cs 1.6 anymore  but according to the 2nd demo, which usually is the evident material of any cheater, to me seemed just a shot. And yes as i told to the reporter i couldn't bother watching the first demo.


i suppose jay can explain how the deduced is organner, i was amazed lol

[Andrew`]

I didn't watch the demos but I've played with this guy many times an I can confirm none of his kills have been dodgy before, not to mention sometimes he wasn't even that good to be suspicious(not calling you a noob, just pointing out your score wasn't something related to science-fiction).

[Rawrplus]

So you're reporting an admin for believing you're cheating (which is his own subjective opinion) and find it much more convenient than posting an unban request?

I mean, don't get me wrong, if you indeed were clean as you claim, I could understand why you would be upset, but unless you provide any reasonable evidence of why admin @Jay  should be reported of misconduct, this report will be classified as a pointless report with no meaningful action backing it up and dropped briefly. Just because you disagree with the fact an admin has banned you, it does not mean it is a report-able offense.

If you wish to play on our servers, please post unban request instead (which is what I humbly believe was your primary intention in the first place).
 


Thank you for your understanding.

['PL']

Just as i was gonna say move it to unban, but that will do rawry C:

[PHENA]

So you're reporting an admin for believing you're cheating (which is his own subjective opinion) and find it much more convenient than posting an unban request?

I mean, don't get me wrong, if you indeed were clean as you claim, I could understand why you would be upset, but unless you provide any reasonable evidence of why admin @Jay  should be reported of misconduct, this report will be classified as a pointless report with no meaningful action backing it up and dropped briefly. Just because you disagree with the fact an admin has banned you, it does not mean it is a report-able offense.

If you wish to play on our servers, please post unban request instead (which is what I humbly believe was your primary intention in the first place).
 


Thank you for your understanding.

I haven't been banned yet. I'm reporting Jay because his decision is false and the thread is already closed so I can't defend myself! If this is the wrong section, then I apologize.

[bezt]

I uploaded a short clip just to show that these are my "rare" shots that don't happen all the time.
rare? dude i can confirm like 93% of the kills HS, and don't try to play the clean boy, ain't this a coincidence when the banlist went down you started to play in the servers?
"that these hacks don't even exist anymore" i lol'd.
about the topic you want me to post the real topic about the pic or you will delete it ?
dude i'm all up for you. don't tell us you have razer mouse etc things dude we are in 2014 try to give us a new excuses.
Regards
bezt

[PHENA]

I'm trying to reason with people who doubt me. I don't blame someone who may ban me in-game. It's frustrating to see an admin mentioning paid hacks that don't even exist in order for him to prove a point and keep a ban as permanent.

Here is another ban I had to deal with: http://www.assassins-cs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=1220&view=unread#unread
After explaining the situation to the Head-Admin of that community, I was eventually unbanned.

If this is in the wrong section, you can move it @Unban-requests section.

[bezt]

I'm trying to reason with people who doubt me. I don't blame someone who may ban me in-game. It's frustrating to see an admin mentioning paid hacks that don't even exist in order for him to prove a point and keep a ban as permanent.

Here is another ban I had to deal with: http://www.assassins-cs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=1220&view=unread#unread
After explaining the situation to the Head-Admin of that community, I was eventually unbanned.

If this is in the wrong section, you can move it @Unban-requests section.

ffs, stop saying hacks that don't even exist the proof about ur lies here and rdy, so calm and keep thinking how to defend ur self smartly.
Regards
bezt

[Rawrplus]

//Moved to unban requests. Please panelists, treat this like an actual unban request from now on and @PHENA please fill in the Unban Request Form.

Thank you.

[bezt]

phena's picture about "organner hacks that these hacks don't even exist anymore"
the real and full picture about csgo not 1.6.
explain this please, and why you need to fake it just to tell us we are assuming the wrong cheat.
explains about the demo i said what i have and jay said why he gave you permanent ban. just be smart next time and gl
Regards
bezt

[PHENA]

Name: PHENA
SteamID: STEAM_0:0:335766
Reason: http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=29066.0
Date & Time: Thread created October 31, 2014, 07:34:37 AM
Admin: Jay
Server: http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/94.23.159.87:27000/
Have you been banned before: No
Other: I motivate any admin or member who has seen me play to support me.

About the screenshot Bezt posted just now, you can see that he has the option "reply with quote". That proves he is actually registered in the site that sells cheats, if I'm not mistaken. Take that into account while reading this thread, I won't respond to his insults anymore.

[anyo]

Have to say, personally I feel he has definately been using an aimbot.

On more than one occasion have I seen similar circumstances where his aim snaps aimbot style on people's heads.

He also modified the image he posted to suit his unban appeal.

No support from me.

[bezt]

Name: PHENA
SteamID: STEAM_0:0:335766
Reason: http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=29066.0
Date & Time: Thread created October 31, 2014, 07:34:37 AM
Admin: Jay
Server: http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/94.23.159.87:27000/
Have you been banned before: No
Other: I motivate any admin or member who has seen me play to support me.

About the screenshot Bezt posted just now, you can see that he has the option "reply with quote". That proves he is actually registered in the site that sells cheats, if I'm not mistaken. Take that into account while reading this thread, I won't respond to his insults anymore.

insults? i told "pl" you will try to make the slickest boy in the world, anyone can visit organner forums and with-out registered account and you will get the same "reply with quote" , common man is this the best you can do to defend yourself?, told you to make a new excuses, you didn't know what to say so the "reply with quote" pumped up.. brainless.
just admit we bust you already and you're wasting our time.
don't use cheats and pay for them if you don't know how to explain in legitly.
and as anyo said, but he posted a FAKE photo and i will be here to catch you bud.
Regards
bezt

[Jay]

Oooh I think this is the 2nd time I've been reported on Ambrosia. One for not doing someone a signature, and this one for not only thinking you cheat but knowing you cheat.

The beauty of paying for cheats like ORGANNER

- As you can see I said like organner. I did not say "The beauty of buying ORGANNER" or anything similar. I said it as an example.

You are, however, using an aimbot and the demos prove that quite convincingly. The demo where you jump and headshot a Terrorist in T-Spawn  - The momentary nospread crosshair flicker is a dead giveaway. The reason why this nospread crosshair readjustment is so obvious is because you were jumping, and jumping recoil in CS is huge.

Edit: Seeing as this is now an unban appeal I will post my 2 cents. I vote to deny.

['PL']

Oooh I think this is the 2nd time I've been reported on Ambrosia. One for not doing someone a signature, and this one for not only thinking you cheat but knowing you cheat.

As for the ORGANNER, that is just an example of a pay to cheat program. You are using an aimbot, and the demos prove that quite convincingly, especially the demo where you jump and headshot a Terrorist in T-Spawn - The momentary nospread crosshair flicker is the dead giveaway. I also like the little pause you have moments after killing him (because you knew you only achieved the headshot because of your aimbot and it was obvious) and then probably toggled.

Edit: Seeing as this is now an unban appeal I will post my 2 cents. I vote to deny.

What does this mean:
"The momentary nospread crosshair flicker is the dead giveaway"

Look jay I was a former report panelist and is not that I don't believe you I just want to be explained in plain easy to understand for casuals xD

[Jay]

When he jumps... What does his crosshair do? It shakes all over the place very quickly as he fires his bullet. That does not happen unless you've got NoSpread on. That is how I know he is cheating because he made the error of jumping and firing. Jumping recoil in CS is huge, and no matter how decent his hack is at hiding nospread it still isn't good enough to hide nospread completely, especially not when you jump and fire.

[PHENA]

When he jumps... What does his crosshair do? It shakes all over the place very quickly as he fires his bullet. That does not happen unless you've got NoSpread on. That is how I know he is cheating because he made the error of jumping and firing. Jumping recoil in CS is huge, and no matter how decent his hack is at hiding nospread it still isn't good enough to hide nospread completely, especially not when you jump and fire.

My shot has just good timing combined with a nice flick. It's not cheat. If my shot didn't have those two, I would shoot in the player's model but the bullet decal would register in the sky. For an aimbot to correct that, it would have to send information to the server to manipulate the spread. And since that information WOULD be FALSE, you would see the true angles in spec mode. Meaning that the cheat would cause blatant "shaking". The website you mentioned sells nothing but a simple vector aimbot that wouldn't even be possible to reigster the shot I did. You have no idea what you're talking about, as a matter of fact you sound like a total clown who uses those same cheats.

From now on if you want to state your opinion do it with some valid points, not with this nonsense. I had one hundred frags in one map sequence inside your server. How would I be doing that if I was cheating? Your statement is not only ignorant, it's also selfish. Twenty admins sent me a message inside the server with their concerns about me and twenty admins confirmed that I was not cheating. Do you want to prove that those twenty admins are not as smart as you are?

@anyo I didn't modify my image. How can I modify a picture that is already uploaded? You must be joking. The whole post was just pasted here from the other section, that's why the image is now "cut".

[anyo]

"Twenty admins sent me a message inside the server with their concerns about me and twenty admins confirmed that I was not cheating. Do you want to prove that those twenty admins are not as smart as you are?"

Really? I would like to hear who those 20 admins are....

And by modify the image, I refer to the fact you cropped the image so that it gave the impression it was from a counter-strike 1.6 section on the forums.

[PHENA]

"Twenty admins sent me a message inside the server with their concerns about me and twenty admins confirmed that I was not cheating. Do you want to prove that those twenty admins are not as smart as you are?"

Really? I would like to hear who those 20 admins are....

And by modify the image, I refer to the fact you cropped the image so that it gave the impression it was from a counter-strike 1.6 section on the forums.

I didn't crop the image, as I explained before. The admins that realized I'm not cheating were many, including you. I have no reason to create any problems in your community, I will wait for your final verdict. Before that, I just had to explain certain things to Jay, who's absolutely clueless about both the game and the cheats he fancies.