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Offline xbenagil

Fisu bad admin
« on: October 24, 2014, 10:36:24 pm »
Admin: Fisu
Server: Ambrosia 1v1 multi arena
Date & Time: 22:20 24/10/14
Complaint: I have been banned from this server for "racism". I was not racist by any means, I simply used the word "nigga" in the chat. This was not directed at anyone. I shouldn't really have a problem with this, however this admin decided to ban me and not someone called "Gas the kikes Race war"
I don't think this admin is very responsible and may happen to ban people for little reason

Offline Ezzα

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2014, 10:49:34 pm »
You used a racist word and still questioning the ban? We do not tolerate ANY form of racism here.

Offline tajski

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2014, 10:53:59 pm »
Hello! Apologies for the inconvenience although I don't think you're responsible yourself if you are saying "n*****" out of blue. I understand that this is not a serious case however I'll check if the ban was deserved. I personally think that you should not of said that as it can be taken as an insult and as you know the server is kind of chaotic and it might of been interpreted in a completely different context therefore please forgive us the mistake and move on.

I'm pretty sure the ban isn't permanent thus you should be able to join the server fairly soon! ;)

Offline xbenagil

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2014, 11:01:44 pm »
Hello! Apologies for the inconvenience although I don't think you're responsible yourself if you are saying "n*****" out of blue. I understand that this is not a serious case however I'll check if the ban was deserved. I personally think that you should not of said that as it can be taken as an insult and as you know the server is kind of chaotic and it might of been interpreted in a completely different context therefore please forgive us the mistake and move on.

I'm pretty sure the ban isn't permanent thus you should be able to join the server fairly soon! ;)

I completely understand that I shouldn't have used the word, I deeply regret it. However I assure you I did not intend to insult anyone, nor was I using it towards/against anyone in particular. Thank you for being understanding.

Offline Andrew`

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2014, 11:07:51 pm »
I don't think the word "n****r" is always offensive, if the person receiving the word was offended he would've reported it to the admin, I hate racism, I've faced it, but tbh this isn't a big deal, this depends on the situation, and as the person above apologised, I personally believe this should be resolved and he should be unbanned.

Offline tajski

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2014, 11:50:28 pm »
That's certainly not a problem! I understand where you're coming from and I'm glad that you've understood me! Do you mind telling me how long is the ban because if it's permanent (it really shouldn't be) then I'll talk with others about this case and your unban but if it's timed then I don't think there is any point of removing it as punishment is a punishment after all.

Please do let me know how long the ban is for and I'll see whether there is anything I can do to decrease it! I advise you to not say things like that in the near future as it will only bring trouble, which of course we both don't want! ;)

Offline Ezzα

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2014, 12:30:04 am »
I don't think the word "n****r" is always offensive

Its questionable but i rather we not use this language at all.

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Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2014, 12:53:39 am »
How many times we said and discussed that such words are not tolerated and accepted even when it comes for jokes on our servers? even if you used this racist word for fun at someone, just know that you could also hut someone's feeling, but you guys never understand this you keep doing what you want and when you find yourself banned you come here and start to complain about anyway, it's punishable since we don't want racism inside our servers or in other hand offensive words.

Offline Noex'

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2014, 06:14:26 am »
Well actually how can an admin know it's not directed to anyone as for most cases i didn't see people typing bad words in the chat for no reason so i'm sorry it's your own fault ..

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Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2014, 11:41:06 am »
Hey ^^

Funny you're tellin me I'm a bad admin. I took the screenshot of what you said, and I'm very harsh for these kinda things. I don't care if you think it aint racist, it is and I punish you with it. I request the banned players to make an unban request and apologize for what you said and then the ban can be lowerd.

As much as I'm aware racits get a permanent ban. Here you go.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=331464326

He lies too, he totally directs it to somone, and while he's saying "admin" it can be me too ^^ Lies, Lies everywhere.

Deserved the ban, now stop playing the victim.

- My Suggestion is: keep him banned for a longer time, for not saying the truth and not apologizing for what he did in first place.

« Last Edit: October 25, 2014, 11:50:57 am by Fisu »

Offline Ed

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2014, 12:37:18 pm »
I would of questioned the ban, the ss shows everything. Ban deserved.
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Offline Andrew`

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2014, 12:53:01 pm »
How many times we said and discussed that such words are not tolerated and accepted even when it comes for jokes on our servers? even if you used this racist word for fun at someone, just know that you could also hut someone's feeling, but you guys never understand this you keep doing what you want and when you find yourself banned you come here and start to complain about anyway, it's punishable since we don't want racism inside our servers or in other hand offensive words.
As I said, if someone gets offended by it, he can report it, but the word is not officially always an offense, it's questionable.

I don't think the word "n****r" is always offensive

Its questionable but i rather we not use this language at all.
I do not disagree with you, but as it IS questionable as we both agreed you cannot just walk around banning people for saying it(not for this case, according to the SS it was offensive indeed) because I cannot be sure(as a random player) if the word is accepted as a joke or not(I don't remember any rule in the server saying "never use the word n****r"), so in my very personal opinion, a kick as a warning should be the first step for anyone who uses the word.

Hey ^^

Funny you're tellin me I'm a bad admin. I took the screenshot of what you said, and I'm very harsh for these kinda things. I don't care if you think it aint racist, it is and I punish you with it. I request the banned players to make an unban request and apologize for what you said and then the ban can be lowerd.

As much as I'm aware racits get a permanent ban. Here you go.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=331464326

He lies too, he totally directs it to somone, and while he's saying "admin" it can be me too ^^ Lies, Lies everywhere.

Deserved the ban, now stop playing the victim.

- My Suggestion is: keep him banned for a longer time, for not saying the truth and not apologizing for what he did in first place.
Well, after this evidence, the ban was well deserved if you ask me, even a permanent one wouldn't surprise me.

Offline RAMBATEN

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2014, 12:54:06 pm »
@xbenagil I suggest you make unban request in the board where you can make it...

And please next time when you report staff members be sure they violate the rules and not you. And btw we don't tolerate any kind of racism here which you might have seen now..

And you well know what happens when you use that kind of language. Someone might say it is not ban reason and he might say it to his friend..
In public server where is 32 players you just can't say n..... word, you might not know how other people react on those things..

Go here and make unban request and the staff will see what kind of proceduce they will go for your unban lenght.

http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?board=27.0


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Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2014, 01:26:24 pm »
The ban is Permanent @tai Racist dont get timeban. I rather give timeban to a wallhacker than to a racist ;) (ofc wouldent give timeban to a wh...)

Offline tajski

Re: Fisu bad admin
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2014, 01:42:14 pm »
Fair enough! Now that I've seen some evidence I'm sure that the ban was fully deserved. Shame that you've lied, anyway I advise you do the unban request and hope for the best!  8)

Case dropped!