[UNBANNED][UNBAN PANEL][CS] Celltorr - unban request [DD2]

[CELLTORR]

Name: CELLTORR 
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:96185464
Reason: WALLHACK
Date & Time:9/10/2014     21:13
Admin: X
Server: 94.23.159.87:27000 De_dust2
Have you been banned before:  Never 
Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com): http://i57.tinypic.com/nl927a.jpg
Other: OMG

[Big Bob]

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[DonTodo #]

Hmm no smoke?

[X-KilleR]

i think you wh, especially last shots waiting ts to show up, you shooted but the ts stopped at the boxes, anyway gd luck with your unban request
Demo: start at 15:49
https://www.mediafire.com/?9i7e5cn2k1o5y60

[Ed]

Hmm no smoke?

Indeed, the demo stops shortly after that smoke was thrown.
It is rather suspicious demo. Enough to convict tho?

More opinions on the demo please.

[ℓσкαтσя]

Hmm no smoke?

Don't think so, because if you use a no smoke script/cheat, you'll never see smoking coming out of the nade. In this case, it seems that this is an old smoke which was thrown and it was dead by the time the SS was taken.

[Ed]

Hmm no smoke?

Don't think so, because if you use a no smoke script/cheat, you'll never see smoking coming out of the nade. In this case, it seems that this is an old smoke which was thrown and it was dead by the time the SS was taken.

Do you ever read or pay attention?
I confirmed that this smoke was thrown shortly after he got banned with SS taken, then the demo stops!

[CELLTORR]

No smoke No HE No FB what else? Sounds ridiculous... Did u see some hacks there?! I don't think so there is something wrong... I am not newbie on this game and don't start to find what is not..  Please don't be funny with silly suspicions. I got ban for Wallhack and admin was wrong if next time u will give ban for No FB  or other silly things then we gonna sort it out.

[Ed]

Is that somewhat a threat?

[CELLTORR]

What threat? I am really upset for that ban. I started to play in this server month ago and everything was OK until one admin screwed up. And you are trying to find something what is not. The one thing is this I AM NOT HACKER and that's all. Admin try to catch but he didn't everything on screenshot and in demo.

[ℓσкαтσя]

What threat? I am really upset for that ban. I started to play in this server month ago and everything was OK until one admin screwed up. And you are trying to find something what is not. The one thing is this I AM NOT HACKER and that's all. Admin try to catch but he didn't everything on screenshot and in demo.

Admins are humans therefore mistakes will be made... And nobody said that you're cheating, sami wants to hear out more opinions about the demo. So hold on a little more and everything will be good.

You won't go anywhere with a bad attitude.

[LatviaNNNNNNNNN]

Hi!!
For me all looks good!
I know celtor well, been playing with him a lot he ain`t cheating!
I can understand him how he feels..
There can see difference between cheater and good player!

[Jay]

Well the screenshot is definitely condemning because the smoke that was thrown onto the bombsite fills up the site (in the demo) and in his screenshot there is no smoke at all. Which is pretty much proof positive is it not?

As for wallhack - I don't see it in the demo, but the smoke is definitely a red flag in any case.

[Fisu]

I've made my research as I've been through the same issue once.

I can confirm there are plugins, which makes the Smoke dissappear ALMOST totally, but you can still see the smoke come outside the nade same as on his screenshot. Which would actually explain it very well. Usually the smoke don't dissappear so fast as on the demo you can see the nade was thrown and the ban came exactly after.

Celltor remain calmed down.

About the actual Banreason.

There are a few suspicous parts on the demo, which can also be thought as a off and on wallhack. Therefore along with the smoke, it convinced me to  say he's whking.

Good Luck with the unban request, if any of the unban panel would like to see the plugin i've found. Just ask for it.

[anyo]

Pre-fire on short near the end as the t's were going to push but stopped is a bit dodgy as X said, everything else seems fine to me.

As far as smoke goes, I very occasionally(talking like once every few weeks if that) get it where a smoke just dropped is near completely see through... no idea what causes it.

But yeah, Celltor does wallhack.. I had a perfect demo showing him toggling before but accidently over-rid it

As far as the demo goes though, not sure if there's enough to justify a ban

[SilverQuick]

About the smoke, it's a sprite model which remove the smoke completely as it's shown in this ss and it's an unfair advantage and rules are clear unfair advantage will lead into a direct and permanent ban, about the demo I'll watch it later and give my opinion as I'm using my laptop now.
Edit: The demo is pretty suspicious and imo cell is using wh and that no smoke thing is already quite a  catch which means celltorr you have no chance at all to get unbanned, but ofc this decision will be made by the unban panel members.

[CELLTORR]

I am wallhack sounds ridiculous  If u can't recognize where is skilled player and newbie with wh than probably u don't have enough skill to be admin. Like I played in OGC, ZCS and etc poor servers there is admins with the same mental. They will give u ban straight away if u killed some trough the box o made 5hs in a row. About smoke u can't say nothing at all. If there is no gas around probably it's gone or didn't explode it to me. Any way sounds funny: CELLTORR YOU ARE WALLHACKER ROFL

Like SilverQuick says just leave only noobs in ambrosian servers (no more skilled players) and will be easy to be a top player in server. . . 

[Ed]

I am wallhack sounds ridiculous  If u can't recognize where is skilled player and newbie with wh than probably u don't have enough skill to be admin. Like I played in OGC, ZCS and etc poor servers there is admins with the same mental. They will give u ban straight away if u killed some trough the box o made 5hs in a row. About smoke u can't say nothing at all. If there is no gas around probably it's gone or didn't explode it to me. Any way sounds funny: CELLTORR YOU ARE WALLHACKER ROFL

About the smoke, your excuse is invalid. Perhaps you should know this if you watched the demo, so don't give petty excuses as we know it is not the case. That smoke didn't go off that quickly. SS was taken shortly afterwards the smoke was thrown.

We don't care about other communities or how they act on suspicious threats, we have our own policy, and you are guilty only when proven. Mind your arrogance as this can be taken against you. Besides, I have a feeling you take us for fools and that we are making stuff up when it is right there (smoke part). About the validity of the demo and whether it is clean, we ask for more opinions and thoughts from other people. If you have a problem with that then we can deny this straight away if you wish. Or, you could await for the verdict and or contribute to the case in better manner and approach.

It is administrator job to record a demo and ban people if they believe that he/she is cheating and our job is to review whether thats the case. If you are not cheating, then there is nothing to worry about is there?

[CELLTORR]

I don't  worry about nothing because I know that only one thing I AM CLEAN and that's all.  But when I am reading admins posts like " yes he wh and etc" it  looks little bit funny. I am not taking u for fools. What I think it's better to be quite and don't say nothing if u can't recognize where cheater and where is skilled player. I know one thing in ambrosia there is couple real good and skilled admins and I hope they will say something. I am sorry if my speech looks like I am showing my arrogance. I'll be quiet until end of this story 

[RAMBATEN]

Gonna see demo later at night. But you seems to be rock solid arrogant skilled player in da game without prolvl.

Well Admins were doing their job and everbody has right to say their opinion even they not might be right.
If you can't take mature way of Admins opinion why would we give a shit for your unban. So better change it or forget the unban.