[CS][PUB] cyx - unban request [Judge:Edgar]

[wave]

Before I write this, my nick is wave, known as ALIVE... I have a young brother, 9-10 years... These days I don't play cs alot, so I gave him my steam account... I came today and I saw him cheating/wh on Public server... I know, Cheater stays cheater, but I hope you trust me and unban me on the server.

Name: cyX
SteamID: STEAM_0:0:95287853
Reason: wh
Date & Time: 17:48:15
Admin: gAnX
Server: Public
Have you been banned before: No
Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com):
Other: Nothing to say except please Trust me.

[Big Bob]

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[gAnX]

I would like to point out that I received a personal message from his younger brother shortly after banning him, I replied to said message telling him that he needs to make an unban request as that is the procedure. Then I got a message from his older brother.

PM from cyX:
'So you banned me ! and you think I wh? Mate, I played cs for a long time, when I was a kid, and I know every tactic in it... Give me proof please... I need the demo... please, then I can make unban req... but this is bad from you to ban  me like this, Its my first few days here, im pro mate.. pro means those who play in real team like SK. Gaming ... Im under them, they are ment by pro, im under them... you can say Semi-pro... If I want to use wh, ill, but I dont! I shoot the walls in aztec or what ever map it was.. I always shoot walls cuz always people camp there so.. Tell any one to unban me if u trust me or ill make unban req + give me the demo please!'

PM from wave:
'Hello mate, Im here to say sorry for all what happened today between you and my young brother, he's still 9-10 years old... I dont play cs alot these days so I gave my steam account to him to play when he's bored... He used wh.. 100/100, I saw him, he said, don't worry, they won't know... KIDS EVERYWHERE, and you banned him... I saw the server, it's nice and full so i decided to join the community to help it in everything, and to have fun. I even have a clan, I may make a clan request but when my members be somehow active... and yeah sorry for what happened, but what can we do... I'll talk to high staff about the steam and how will I get unbanned or whatever...


Regards,
wave'

Screenshot URL (Use tinypic.com):
Other: Nothing to say except please Trust me.

You need to upload the screenshot of the ban which can be found in your cstrike folder.

The unban panel will look at the evidence/screenshot and deal with it accordingly. Your brother lied in his message about playing this game for a really long time and being a 'semi-pro', which really does not help.

Trust will not help you here.

[wave]

Yeah I know, My bro clearly lied, screen shot will be posted soon.

[Timmer|Lv]

I love the way both PM's are slightly similar to each other,three full stops after nearly every sentence,same mistakes in grammar,makes me wonder if it's actually the same person who is writing all this.

There is a policy here in ambrosia

3. We do not accept reasons such as:

Friends/Family involved in cheating/breaking rules
Forgetting to turn off cheats/hacks
Using cheats against other cheater for defence
Pressing cheat key by mistake

and what is this

I gave my steam account to him to play when he's bored... He used wh.. 100/100, I saw him, he said, don't worry, they won't know...

so you basically accepted the fact he was cheating on your steam account and let him play?Or I'm lost?

I'm feeling this all made up,bunch of baloney just 

[gAnX]

so you basically accepted the fact he was cheating on your steam account and let him play?Or I'm lost?

I'm feeling this all made up,bunch of baloney just 

My thoughts exactly after reading the messages. He was cheating and he was caught. If you dont play cs much why do you want an unban on Ambrosia servers on your steam account? Or is this 'please unban my steam so my brother can play again and cheat, only this time not get caught'. I dont see the logic in 'wave' asking for this unban

[wave]

so you basically accepted the fact he was cheating on your steam account and let him play?Or I'm lost?

I'm feeling this all made up,bunch of baloney just 

My thoughts exactly after reading the messages. He was cheating and he was caught. If you dont play cs much why do you want an unban on Ambrosia servers on your steam account? Or is this 'please unban my steam so my brother can play again and cheat, only this time not get caught'. I dont see the logic in 'wave' asking for this unban

  Because maybe ill join this community ( Start playing on its servers ) When I be active -_-

[Duke Devlin]

I would like to point out that I received a personal message from his younger brother shortly after banning him, I replied to said message telling him that he needs to make an unban request as that is the procedure. Then I got a message from his older brother.

PM from cyX:
'So you banned me ! and you think I wh? Mate, I played cs for a long time, when I was a kid, and I know every tactic in it... Give me proof please... I need the demo... please, then I can make unban req... but this is bad from you to ban  me like this, Its my first few days here, im pro mate.. pro means those who play in real team like SK. Gaming ... Im under them, they are ment by pro, im under them... you can say Semi-pro... If I want to use wh, ill, but I dont! I shoot the walls in aztec or what ever map it was.. I always shoot walls cuz always people camp there so.. Tell any one to unban me if u trust me or ill make unban req + give me the demo please!'

PM from wave:
'Hello mate, Im here to say sorry for all what happened today between you and my young brother, he's still 9-10 years old... I dont play cs alot these days so I gave my steam account to him to play when he's bored... He used wh.. 100/100, I saw him, he said, don't worry, they won't know... KIDS EVERYWHERE, and you banned him... I saw the server, it's nice and full so i decided to join the community to help it in everything, and to have fun. I even have a clan, I may make a clan request but when my members be somehow active... and yeah sorry for what happened, but what can we do... I'll talk to high staff about the steam and how will I get unbanned or whatever...


Regards,
wave'

Screen shot of these or it can be labeled fake?   
IF these messages are true then it wasn't his brother playing but Cyx himself with wh
can't wait for the ss and demo

Cyx I hope it was your brother that used these cheats. would be a shame to see you, an experienced player, use them 

[Burzum]

wave, post SS

ganx, upload demo

High Staff will decide about the punishment

[Ed]

@gAnX please provide the demo.
@wave please provide the screenshot taken of the ban!

[gAnX]

Messages SS - http://i.imgur.com/7Lt8TaU.png

Demo - https://www.mediafire.com/?8nhasii2huafzv1 (demo is short but its obvious wh. I didnt feel the need for it to be longer. He was tracking the target through the wall)

[Ed]

Demo is clear as gold.
Thanks Ganx.

Has your brother got anything to say wave? And also you do understand that he is your responsibility if he is playing in our servers?

[Ed]

You have 24hours to respond.

[Burzum]

well, this player already admitted

I came today and I saw him cheating/wh on Public server...

so, in my point of view, its like u were using hacks urself

in the same second u saw ur bro using hacks u should have made him disconnect from server and stop using hacks, but u did let him continue untill an admin banned him

my opinion is: permanent ban

[wave]

And why not a second chance?

[RAMBATEN]

And why not a second chance?

Post screenshot IF you are semipro, you would know where it locates cause all big matches you must give screenshots of your game start of the game etc.

You are not in esl, esea or any bigger competitive sites..That's all about your semipro SK gaming claims.

[wave]

My bro ( cyx ) lied, and I searched in my cstrike file, didnt find the ss! 

[RAMBATEN]

My bro ( cyx ) lied, and I searched in my cstrike file, didnt find the ss! 

Are you the same guy from sW. Clan..Cause in that account you have vac ban. Why do you use new account only less than 2 years old.

Give the main account and the screenshot is there. So mind stop lieng?

[Ezzα]

Think this is a clear cut case and as stated in our rule book we simply do not accept family members cheating as an excuse. As such we will not allow exceptions for this rule so the screenshot is irrelevant as once we allow one this will just invite similar unban requests etc.

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