[Surf]New Mod

[~RoN]

I dont understand why those changes got add? Instead of listen to the guys who play more than 2 years in this Server you guys just takeover the control and change the Mod completely. Why didnt you just do the things rubix told many times to do, i remember even when Pim was HA there was no one who cared about the Map problem. Of course the Server will get empty if no one takes care about the things that need to get fixed or the things the HA and his team gave the UC's.

From an Surf Surfer you made an DM Server... Parachute please. The point of Surfing is too show you skills and have some fun and not that everybody flys around with an Parachute and camps for the next kill. I can just tell you, that those People who joined the Server for the Niveau that was once in Ambro, they will all leave the Server because its no fun anymore.

Im playing since more than 2 years hear and can tell you that it wasnt the mod who made the Server empty, it was just the no-support of UC's/highstaff. Gun Game is not a mod u add in a Surf server, i played in many server's who had this mod and a lot of them just died after a few months.

As i read there were some Updates, i was kinda enthusiastic, but if im honest im kinda disappointed now. I dont know how the other ppl think, thats just my own opinion, but i can say now that i wont enjoy the Server anymore as i did once.

Can you please tell me when did we stop taking care of surf ?

You (Not only you, i dont even know you)did stop taking care of surf, when Rubix joined the Server and all people said everyday "[...]when will this get changed?" and he said like "We have to wait till the UC's do something". Even when i was Admin the everyday Problem was when will we add new Maps, since the old got boring and the most Pepole are too good at it. I would say it took 1 Year till we got new Maps, which needed to get "Tested". There were a couple of Bugs, which didnt get fixed (those bugs werent to solve as Headadmin sometimes) even People made Topics about it. I was playing like everyday in this Server and from day to day i got more bored to it, because i saw its kind of useless to go in the Server and promise those guys that the Maps/Bugs will get Added/Fixed soon even i knew they wouldnt. And now you guys come just think changing the Mod will change everything? Me and other People who really enjoyed this Server, and like it as it was, had such Idea's we wanted to suggest, but it never got implemented

@Santa ~ Guardian

The thing is, i joined the Server once, because there were cool people, i found alot of friends there was something like a competetive challenge between any Clans (and every Clan had awesome Members, so we had a High Niveau). Sometimes when the Server was full with like 25 Players, and u had a fight between 2 great Surfer (which dont delay the game all the time) it was so nice too look at it. But now theres nothing anymore, its just an Deathmatch Surf Server, where everyone is Camping for kills. Even this Point, makes me sure that i wont play on a Mod like that, because its just boring. Im sure, iam not the only one who thinks like this.

I think that the mister head admin Rubix gave you wrong information because for the changes we wanted to do we went to him he didn't come to us to tell us what he really wanted so we suggested something and this plane was 2 months ago. And yes i was busy for 2 months after that because i was working and i will tell you something that i won't quit my work and ruin my life just because there was a problem in the server. I guess you wouldn't do that to when you have bills to pay home car and a lot more shit's. We are coming back on track now we are all back to activity. And we will do our maximum to make everything better then before. And to be honest everybody dosen't like something if we had to do everything what everybody wants then we would have to open 10k servers. So be happy for at least once for what we got in ambrosia since you are an old member. Everybody wants diffrent things, everybody can not be pleased.

The info is correct.
I waited 3/4 months for tony to finish my server which he promised would come.
Week after week I would ask him "When will it be done?" I kept getting responses like "next week" bla bla.
I also said to you and shark on ts3 that I had a server half made which I wanted Pim to develop and finish, so no, you are wrong when you say I didnt say what I really wanted.

what did you say to me yesterday roni you do it. So for me it was the Gungame Surf that we talked before if you don't give me any information then i can't do what you want. When i said to pim do it you said no roni you do it.

[One night in Ibiza]

All pro surfers lost intrest of surfing its just boring the players r flying with the parachute and the other ones r waiting in the jail for enemys surfing needs skill and not waiting in the jail or fly with the parachute ...

[Rubix]

I dont understand why those changes got add? Instead of listen to the guys who play more than 2 years in this Server you guys just takeover the control and change the Mod completely. Why didnt you just do the things rubix told many times to do, i remember even when Pim was HA there was no one who cared about the Map problem. Of course the Server will get empty if no one takes care about the things that need to get fixed or the things the HA and his team gave the UC's.

From an Surf Surfer you made an DM Server... Parachute please. The point of Surfing is too show you skills and have some fun and not that everybody flys around with an Parachute and camps for the next kill. I can just tell you, that those People who joined the Server for the Niveau that was once in Ambro, they will all leave the Server because its no fun anymore.

Im playing since more than 2 years hear and can tell you that it wasnt the mod who made the Server empty, it was just the no-support of UC's/highstaff. Gun Game is not a mod u add in a Surf server, i played in many server's who had this mod and a lot of them just died after a few months.

As i read there were some Updates, i was kinda enthusiastic, but if im honest im kinda disappointed now. I dont know how the other ppl think, thats just my own opinion, but i can say now that i wont enjoy the Server anymore as i did once.

Can you please tell me when did we stop taking care of surf ?

You (Not only you, i dont even know you)did stop taking care of surf, when Rubix joined the Server and all people said everyday "[...]when will this get changed?" and he said like "We have to wait till the UC's do something". Even when i was Admin the everyday Problem was when will we add new Maps, since the old got boring and the most Pepole are too good at it. I would say it took 1 Year till we got new Maps, which needed to get "Tested". There were a couple of Bugs, which didnt get fixed (those bugs werent to solve as Headadmin sometimes) even People made Topics about it. I was playing like everyday in this Server and from day to day i got more bored to it, because i saw its kind of useless to go in the Server and promise those guys that the Maps/Bugs will get Added/Fixed soon even i knew they wouldnt. And now you guys come just think changing the Mod will change everything? Me and other People who really enjoyed this Server, and like it as it was, had such Idea's we wanted to suggest, but it never got implemented

@Santa ~ Guardian

The thing is, i joined the Server once, because there were cool people, i found alot of friends there was something like a competetive challenge between any Clans (and every Clan had awesome Members, so we had a High Niveau). Sometimes when the Server was full with like 25 Players, and u had a fight between 2 great Surfer (which dont delay the game all the time) it was so nice too look at it. But now theres nothing anymore, its just an Deathmatch Surf Server, where everyone is Camping for kills. Even this Point, makes me sure that i wont play on a Mod like that, because its just boring. Im sure, iam not the only one who thinks like this.

I think that the mister head admin Rubix gave you wrong information because for the changes we wanted to do we went to him he didn't come to us to tell us what he really wanted so we suggested something and this plane was 2 months ago. And yes i was busy for 2 months after that because i was working and i will tell you something that i won't quit my work and ruin my life just because there was a problem in the server. I guess you wouldn't do that to when you have bills to pay home car and a lot more shit's. We are coming back on track now we are all back to activity. And we will do our maximum to make everything better then before. And to be honest everybody dosen't like something if we had to do everything what everybody wants then we would have to open 10k servers. So be happy for at least once for what we got in ambrosia since you are an old member. Everybody wants diffrent things, everybody can not be pleased.

The info is correct.
I waited 3/4 months for tony to finish my server which he promised would come.
Week after week I would ask him "When will it be done?" I kept getting responses like "next week" bla bla.
I also said to you and shark on ts3 that I had a server half made which I wanted Pim to develop and finish, so no, you are wrong when you say I didnt say what I really wanted.

what did you say to me yesterday roni you do it. So for me it was the Gungame Surf that we talked before if you don't give me any information then i can't do what you want. When i said to pim do it you said no roni you do it.

I said yesterday that since you and Shark want GG SF, that only you would be working on it with him. Before all of this, I already said I asked Pim to continue finishing the server started by Tony.

[Koray]

I remember Rubix telling me that he was strictly against SGG, it was a long time ago aswell when I talked with Roni abkut server changes where he was working on. Im just curious why you guys changed to Surf GG? Whats the main reasob behind it? We were happy with the old mod we only needed some more maps and cleaner plugins nothing else. And since tony said he would do it but his pc broke it never came to it. Why sont you guys ask first instead of doing stuff? Why didnt you make a vote for Classic surf or GG surf?

Since I was an classic surf player back in the day I really dislike to see the server like this now, and Xraa does have a point, Highstaff necer actually cared about the server, Shark came and only wanted the way he wantes it to be and the same goes for this GG mod as the old DM maps, hell we even asked Pim to remove them but he couldbt because 'Shark putted them in.

But for the love of god pleasr think and ask before you implent  something 'new' into the server, and I dont believe you guys testes maps aswell to look if the mod would be good on it.

Sigh.

[black star]

it wil get empty in no time rip surf I enjoy playing on the old server now every one jump in jail and kill kill kill KILL THEM ALL!!! please back to the old mod just add some maps.....not hard

[Santa]

I have one thing to add since rubix and koray said everything true, lets just give sometime for this new mod, i guess pim should finish toniy's project if he could, yet we will be able to chose wether we keep this or jump back to the old mod with new improvements,

Just please guys, give time and chances, wait and wait and wait, i dont think high staff will just be sitting not doing anything when server will get empty as some of you have predicted, the thing is that there are a great huge amount of opinions and it all ends with high staff decision,

Lets stop arguing here, lets prevent worse happenings to happen !

Thanks

[~RoN]

it wil get empty in no time rip surf I enjoy playing on the old server now every one jump in jail and kill kill kill KILL THEM ALL!!! please back to the old mod just add some maps.....not hard

surf was empty even if the old mod was here only 2 or 3 players give us a month and you will see how popular will this server be.
The old mod was not so popular so we also try to change it some times and find out what works mostly other wise we will only have to remove it so either you guys give it a bit time or surf will always be empty then in conclusion it will be closed.

[Rubix]

The way they play the game, sitting in jail for kills.
Might as well have a seperate GG server

[One night in Ibiza]

it wil get empty in no time rip surf I enjoy playing on the old server now every one jump in jail and kill kill kill KILL THEM ALL!!! please back to the old mod just add some maps.....not hard

surf was empty even if the old mod was here only 2 or 3 players give us a month and you will see how popular will this server be.
The old mod was not so popular so we also try to change it some times and find out what works mostly other wise we will only have to remove it so either you guys give it a bit time or surf will always be empty then in conclusion it will be closed.

but it was cool we were surfing and yet all players r waiting in the jail and its not more funny that's our problem the server can be full but it wont be funny like the old mod...

[SharkX69]

Stop complaining guys.
There are players that like this mod and others who dosnt.
We can never please everyone thats true but we are doing our best to make a popular server.
Only time will show us if its going to be a successfull server but classic surf wasnt so successfull either.
Give it some time to see how it will go.

['PL']

Don't see what's the problem

There was the same mod in ambrosia before rollin back to original surf.

It was alright, nothing too out of place.

[Maki]

Stop complaining guys.
There are players that like this mod and others who dosnt.
We can never please everyone thats true but we are doing our best to make a popular server.
Only time will show us if its going to be a successfull server but classic surf wasnt so successfull either.
Give it some time to see how it will go.

I personally have no issues whatsoever with the new mod and although I can understand why people are furious, it is true that the server had been dying for a while and without changes it would've died anyway most likely however I think that forcing a mod change without being on the same page as the Head Admin of the server in question and discussing it with other Staff prior is a horrible idea, not only was Rubix's idea never tried out but his opinion was seemingly just ignored or misunderstood (I imagine this is how it went seeing how RoNi said that you were the one that asked him for the server change, correct me if I'm wrong).

Now while I appreciate the fact that people are finally willing to put effort into attempting to get the community back on track, I don't think that it will happen if you keep doing basic mistakes such as being unable to convey the information well between Staff members and I think that server changes shouldn't happen overnight and be discussed deeply with a majority of the Staff member and not simply two or three people. Yes the community is in a bad spot at the moment but don't rush your decisions too much, it isn't going to end well if you do.

It also isn't too late to revert the decision and go back to whatever was planned in the past if more people are unhappy and Staff disagrees so I'd recommend taking a step back and discussing it once again before going through permanently with the server change.

My 2c.

[Card Clasher]

Stop complaining guys.
There are players that like this mod and others who dosnt.
We can never please everyone thats true but we are doing our best to make a popular server.
Only time will show us if its going to be a successfull server but classic surf wasnt so successfull either.
Give it some time to see how it will go.

80% of these players are yourself -.-

Also, what happened to quality and not quantity ?

[Ryan~]

well, server got bug or something , whenever i reached to level , my guns always disappeared, idk.. i think new mod is really sucks ,we want a simple surf and the old one.. 

[~RoN]

well, server got bug or something , whenever i reached to level , my guns always disappeared, idk.. i think new mod is really sucks ,we want a simple surf and the old one.. 

Instand of being negative next time take screenshot so we can fix it.

[black star]

it wil get empty in no time rip surf I enjoy playing on the old server now every one jump in jail and kill kill kill KILL THEM ALL!!! please back to the old mod just add some maps.....not hard

surf was empty even if the old mod was here only 2 or 3 players give us a month and you will see how popular will this server be.
The old mod was not so popular so we also try to change it some times and find out what works mostly other wise we will only have to remove it so either you guys give it a bit time or surf will always be empty then in conclusion it will be closed.

no we there was 10 players at night or  more u can ask rubix ! now even at night there is 0 players rip surf and u say some like it? who liked it exept u ron and exept u shark u are the only 2 that liked it and u 2 are not even surf players the old surfers ( xraa , santaa , me , rubix , chris , ibza ) non of us liked it keep waiting in the jail  and killing rip surf again

[Fisu]

There's a reason why there aren't a lot of servers with this mod. Cuz it's in my opinion a bad server. I suck at surf I always will suck, but it was fun playing it. Now it's not even fun anymore..

We'll wait for the changes that will be made, but still I hope staff will rethink this whole project again. But what I do not understand, many servers as, ZM etc, went first through a beta version where it got tested, and now somehow this looks like it hasn't been tested.. Or I'm wrong but w/e.

But from tonys side.. Making promises and leaving it just like that, really, really sad.. Anyways.


I asked Rubix few times when the new server will be done, he answerd with, the info will come from UC's(Tony). ....................... Why not getting old srvr back.

[Santa]

There's a reason why there aren't a lot of servers with this mod. Cuz it's in my opinion a bad server. I suck at surf I always will suck, but it was fun playing it. Now it's not even fun anymore..

We'll wait for the changes that will be made, but still I hope staff will rethink this whole project again. But what I do not understand, many servers as, ZM etc, went first through a beta version where it got tested, and now somehow this looks like it hasn't been tested.. Or I'm wrong but w/e.

But from tonys side.. Making promises and leaving it just like that, really, really sad.. Anyways.


I asked Rubix few times when the new server will be done, he answerd with, the info will come from UC's(Tony). ....................... Why not getting old srvr back.

Thats not the new server that was expected, the new server is still not finished and i think pim should complete it instead of tony, yet we will have too choices as i said before either we keep this that hopefully will be fixed because such servers should take more time to work on so as to end with a great result, the mistake that roni and shark did, is that they though they have finished it in one night, and it was published at the same time without even discussing it with rubix, and even without being introduced, new thing should be tested for days and days to ensure that no complaints will be thrown back as it is being givin now !!

And i want to say for those who is just saying "we want the old mod ,, this suck,, rip,, etc..." I tell you guys to stoo that and instead try to give suggestions and report the bugs for high staff so as to help with ending with a good server... A good server is good as long it is being looked after and taking care of, no matter what is the mod if its simple and nice i think it shall secceed and will be populer soon enough, help them to help your opinion !

[Duke Devlin]

well, server got bug or something , whenever i reached to level , my guns always disappeared, idk.. i think new mod is really sucks ,we want a simple surf and the old one.. 

Instand of being negative next time take screenshot so we can fix it.

perhaps someone from highstaff who voted/agreed on changing it to gungame could ACTUALLY play for once? 

[~RoN]

well, server got bug or something , whenever i reached to level , my guns always disappeared, idk.. i think new mod is really sucks ,we want a simple surf and the old one.. 

Instand of being negative next time take screenshot so we can fix it.

perhaps someone from highstaff who voted/agreed on changing it to gungame could ACTUALLY play for once? 

i am playing there mr smart ass check game tracker instand of typing some info that is wrong.