X-KilleR

[Razzi]

Admin: X
Server: Dd2
Date & Time: 20:10
Complaint: So, one round. X saved his gun as he was vs against many enemies and he couldn't kill them. That's understandable and very common. When i did it he slays he me. AND this isn't the first time. He knows it, when i ask why he ignores me and stays quiet. This is REALLY pissing me off. What a head admin assistant. Slaying others for saving gun while he does himself. Why does he keep ignoring me, 3rd time i have been ignored. Just because your a HAA, doesn't mean you play with your rights.
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): Best i could get is a screenshot.


http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/41978430611873622/1206367E0DCAF5994184510EDD6A3D60B9C3F48C/

[D00M]

Just a picture isn't rlly a evidence.

[X-KilleR]

what is this "i save gun"?and how you saw me missing shots? i mean u were playing no?!....  btw i was dead not even playing
anyway, i slayed you becuz u were camping ,as you know camping isn't allowed following dd2 rules ,any player camp especially for almost entire round like you, deserve a punitive action

X

[Koray]

what is this "i save gun"?and how you saw me missing shots? i mean u were playing no?!....  btw i was dead not even playing
anyway, i slayed you becuz u were camping ,as you know camping isn't allowed following dd2 rules ,any player camp especially for almost entire round like you, deserve a punitive action

X

'saving gun' means that you save your gun if you know you cant win the round all by yourself because your teammates are dead, if the bomb is planted and there are like 4 ish people alive there is no reason to go and die if you can save up the gun for the next round.

[X-KilleR]

Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter gibe or taunt."[1][2] Sarcasm may employ ambivalence,[3] although sarcasm is not necessarily ironic
i know what is saving gun ...

[anyo]

I can't directly comment on the above situation but there is frequently occasions where people never try to defuse regardless of situation and also in 1v2/3 situations where they have plenty of time to defuse. In these occasions, slaying the player is justified to be honest. Again though, I do not know if this was the case.

[Razzi]

what is this "i save gun"?and how you saw me missing shots? i mean u were playing no?!....  btw i was dead not even playing
anyway, i slayed you becuz u were camping ,as you know camping isn't allowed following dd2 rules ,any player camp especially for almost entire round like you, deserve a punitive action

X

Really? camping?. Oh god.. what do you want me to do. Save my gun running around the map? Lol.. I was at mid but i went to t spawn not to risk anything. Actually post a proper reason

EDIT: about you being dead, and yes you was playing since you was typing to others and was not afk every round .

@anyo there was me 1v5.. i didn't want to risk it as i'm not THAT good tbh. So i went to t spawn to make sure i wasn't risking anything.

[SilverQuick]

what is this "i save gun"?and how you saw me missing shots? i mean u were playing no?!....  btw i was dead not even playing
anyway, i slayed you becuz u were camping ,as you know camping isn't allowed following dd2 rules ,any player camp especially for almost entire round like you, deserve a punitive action

X

Really? camping?. Oh god.. what do you want me to do. Save my gun running around the map? Lol.. I was at mid but i went to t spawn not to risk anything. Actually post a proper reason

EDIT: about you being dead, and yes you was playing since you was typing to others and was not afk every round .

@anyo there was me 1v5.. i didn't want to risk it as i'm not THAT good tbh. So i went to t spawn to make sure i wasn't risking anything.

So what you want to say here that you didn't even try to defuse? 5v1 and you went directly to T spawn in order to save your gun for the next round anyway, I'd do the same as X did and I don't see where the problem is, you didn't do your mission you got simply slayed that's part of the rules.

[Razzi]

silverquick, use your brain please. i was like at top mid.. by the time i got to the site many secs would of been gone and plus 1v5.. why would i risk it.

Think in a cw.. ur alone 1v5.. Would u save or go in the site and try to defuse? If you say go in the site i don't know what you've been doing @cs

[SilverQuick]

silverquick, use your brain please. i was like at top mid.. by the time i got to the site many secs would of been gone and plus 1v5.. why would i risk it.

Think in a cw.. ur alone 1v5.. Would u save or go in the site and try to defuse? If you say go in the site i don't know what you've been doing @cs

The point is it's not a cw server, it's dd2 server and rules are different.

[BuddyTrollsten]

I don't play dd2 server but from what I read above it seems like there is a rule saying "Don't save weapons , even if you're 1v10 and bomb is planted" hm?

He has less money , it's 1v5 and bomb is planted so of course you wont just go and rush in , you're gonna save a weapon you picked up like an AWP.
I can imagine you guys playing CS:GO comp , and rushing in when your whole team screaming SAVE SAVE SAVE SAVE SAVE SAVE SAVE.
..

[SilverQuick]

I don't play dd2 server but from what I read above it seems like there is a rule saying "Don't save weapons , even if you're 1v10 and bomb is planted" hm?

He has less money , it's 1v5 and bomb is planted so of course you wont just go and rush in , you're gonna save a weapon you picked up like an AWP.
I can imagine you guys playing CS:GO comp , and rushing in when your whole team screaming SAVE SAVE SAVE SAVE SAVE SAVE SAVE.
..

Well, I bet it was the contrary in this situation so Razzi's team was screaming HURRY HURRY since it's dd2 server not a cw or cs:go competitive match, that's why I said dd2 is dd2 and cw is cw.

[BuddyTrollsten]

Even if his team is crying to hurry up the admin knows he's not breaking a  rule right? He's just saving a weapon.
It's not like he's using hacks or freezing time or camping when it's 1v1.

[RAMBATEN]

Mission or die..This is the reason why not been keen dd2 server. There are plenty players who never do mission, even they know bomb is planted B they go A.
Maybe once it might be OK..But please even Ambrosia Admins do it..not naming none.
Slaylosers plugin still exists

[X-KilleR]

You were ts and not ct ,you have to try planting the bomb, you have to move from spawn, play the mission, and again and again, i dont read every player mind,saving or not, you were slayed for CAMPING, staying near spawn, and not playing mission is against dd2 rules, if i find you doing it and not playing the mission again ill slay you and more

[Burzum]

razzi, i think a ss is not enough for this complaint

next time record a demo with X camping and "saving gun" and another demo when he slays u for the same reason

then u can complain about him and actions can be taken

[Razzi]

You were ts and not ct ,you have to try planting the bomb, you have to move from spawn, play the mission, and again and again, i dont read every player mind,saving or not, you were slayed for CAMPING, staying near spawn, and not playing mission is against dd2 rules, if i find you doing it and not playing the mission again ill slay you and more

Oh seriously. what should i write other than english? i was TS yes and i was at top mid and 1v5.. i don't have to try plant the bomb as sometimes its not worth it. I wasn't camping, just because when you speced me i was @t spawn, doesn't mean i camped. I was trying @topmid seeing if i could get a kill and reduce the chance of me taking the risk but at the end, wasn't worth, so i made my way, still watching for anyone to come, i made my way to t spawn. do you understand now?!

@silverquick, it's still the same situation. WILL you run at a 1v5 situation? no, yes you want to win and not just lose a gun. Same as dd2.

Also, why X-KilleR just when u died u spec and slay.. you didn't even see my movement and thought OH HES @TSPAWN, I MUST SLAY

[r3Tr]

My view on this kind of situation in general.

If you left 1vs3-4-5-6..etc. with planted bomb (as CT) or dropped bomb somewhere (as T) - TRY to play mission by making necessary moves. If you just simply go opposite direction and sit somewhere waiting till round is finished, slay is justified.
But, if you try to defuse/plant the bomb, but couldn't succeed because of hundred of nades/flashes in ur face, multiple enemies know ur exact position and spraying non-stop ur direction, etc. then you can try to save. Admins must use their common sense and deal with situations like this accordingly.

Still, don't waste other people's time if there is 1 min of the round left and you play extra slow and careful. It's getting f.. a bit annoying (just my soul scream )

I hope this helps.

Regards.

[DonTodo #]

Situations like this need to be handled with care.
Its common sense with a 1vs5 situation to just let it go and see how the next round is going.
If someone is constantly doing the same then yes slay or kick or whatever.

Good example for a player that constantly does it: FMJ. All us DD2 admins know him and know he camps short constantly and rather not defuse. Do we always slay him? We don't.

Now that Razzi is in T spawn doesnt mean particular that he camps t spawn.
If im reading Razzi his frustration it is clearly that X missed all the movements of Razzi and just slayed by a moment shot.
Next to that. Ignoring people is a no go at all. Doesnt matter if he is sharing his mind or whatsoever. We as admins can NEVER ignore a player. It is our duty as Admin or higher to be there for players in need or in desperation for answers.

Now for this case i would just say give X a tab on the fingers. Solve it and drop it. As the offenses and the evidence is not high enough to do anything with it.

[anyo]

Agreed. The one thing people are forgetting is that for every time someone saves a gun - the t's defending get bored, all people dead get bored and if it continually happens every round... people will leave because it is like 30+ seconds every round doing nothing a lot of the time