Some Suggestions to make this community Better.

[Fry]

Hello Dear Ambrosians, Today i'm going to bring some suggestions to this topic in-order for a better popularity.


SO , First of all  - DO NOT let these "oldies" rush at "newbies" or "kids" or in-active guys like me


For example yesterday i've joined the teamspeak 3 server , i met Fabby and card clasher , then i said hi to fabby but he didn't remember me , so he start saying who the f#ck are you , and i start swearing of course.

and ofc i know that fabby can harrass some times because i know him in neonDragon community and i know how he acts towards the NEWBIES.



Second of all - Never , Ever, try to delete a plug-in for having a "issue" as the kill assist plugin , if you want to delete it then make a poll and see what members think, afterall its not about ranks , its a COMMUNITY , and in the real-life communities Only the civilians can control it.




Thirdly ,  Now i know this suggestion got already suggested. BUT i'm re-suggesting IT , why not having a cs:go Server , every skilled member in public-dust 2 Server is leaving to cs:go to another communities , now just tell me why instead of having a cs:go server there's a dead server called Samp Arrabia ?


Fourthly , Please try to increase the courage of loyal members , every 1 - 2 weeks i see a loyal member leaves , now when i check his "leaving topic" i only see , Bye , see ya , lol finaly , wth ?


Festively , Please TRY to find a CS-PLAYERS and that they're already experienced at Coding or Managing the Servers and when i say MANAGING the servers i do not mean administrate the servers i mean deleting/adding/editing/fixing the plugins and maps and checking the logs etc.......


Finally ,  Now this is really optional BUT , why don't you guys invite some of your friends to join the admin team ? i mean , the public-dust2-jailbreak servers really needs a active admins.....




*********Please DO NOT start Blaming me for these OPINIONS and suggestions , and stop saying that they're useless and stuff , i mean i'm trying to help not to fuck somethings up ***********

[Ren0k.]

First of all you will get a lot of hate about this
If you arent that popular you shouldt swear or insult to get reputation.
This is CS community so high staff controls servers, and about kill assist, there was discussions.
We already tried csgo but it wasnt active, atleast samp we are getting some players;)
This is gaming community, if member want leave then he leaves. They have lifes.
What you mean by ''try to find cs-players'' ?? all who is in staff (admins) are cs players. We have head admins and UCs who managing servers if you havent noticed.

Everything u said has no actual point.

[Koray]

Why having a csgo server if it will be empty anyway? Its not like they are going to plat on it instead of MM lol.

Gmod will be far better.

[Timmer|Lv]

Thirdly ,  Now i know this suggestion got already suggested. BUT i'm re-suggesting IT , why not having a cs:go Server , every skilled member in public-dust 2 Server is leaving to cs:go to another communities , now just tell me why instead of having a cs:go server there's a dead server called Samp Arrabia ?

I don't see really a point in pub server,majority of the cs:go players play the game because of the competitive mode,besides we already tryed having a pub server,didn't go so well.

Fourthly , Please try to increase the courage of loyal members , every 1 - 2 weeks i see a loyal member leaves , now when i check his "leaving topic" i only see , Bye , see ya , lol finaly , wth ?

People like you need to start realizing that the fu*king game is dieng.The game has been out for what now?15 years?.It starts to get a little repetitive when you play the game for 10 years or so with no update's,thats why you see people leaving,they lose interest.

As for cs:go the game is getting updated every now and then,competitive is the main thing there,that's what makes the game enjoyable and fun to play.

And the only way to find players nowaday is boosting.

[MESoo Br♚]

For example yesterday i've joined the teamspeak 3 server , i met Fabby and card clasher , then i said hi to fabby but he didn't remember me , so he start saying who the f#ck are you , and i start swearing of course.

and ofc i know that fabby can harrass some times because i know him in neonDragon community and i know how he acts towards the NEWBIES.

Can't See the suggestion is here ??

Second of all - Never , Ever, try to delete a plug-in for having a "issue" as the kill assist plugin , if you want to delete it then make a poll and see what members think, afterall its not about ranks , its a COMMUNITY , and in the real-life communities Only the civilians can control it.

Well , it's great thing to see members opinion in something ,, but about the plug-ins especially kill assist as you are not admin So you can't see admin HQ board ,, The Conclusion : There is topic on HQ that this plugin Affect the admin rights ,, So They don't have to make poll because some plugins might not be compatible with the server or other plugins or whatever ,,,

Thirdly ,  Now i know this suggestion got already suggested. BUT i'm re-suggesting IT , why not having a cs:go Server , every skilled member in public-dust 2 Server is leaving to cs:go to another communities , now just tell me why instead of having a cs:go server there's a dead server called Samp Arrabia ?

Why Not, even though i don't have the game, but i think that will @ReFresh  the community

Festively , Please TRY to find a CS-PLAYERS and that they're already experienced at Coding or Managing the Servers and when i say MANAGING the servers i do not mean administrate the servers i mean deleting/adding/editing/fixing the plugins and maps and checking the logs etc.......

We Have A good HA/HAA ,,


I didn't replay on all suggestion Because some of them are simple like invite friends etc ,,

['PL']

It's not only cause of the game, it's also the new treatment they are giving us. I'm not really a fond of it but times changed and my tiny voice won't be heard no matter what. And oldies don't see any respectability on that accounting pointing of "I wasted my time in a community for xxx years to receive this?"

Fabby isn't technically an oldie, he just wanted to do something other then LoL as he elaborated to me. And yes, it's not a great reaction from him towards you but you won't have it any other way around. Is really difficult for new or lurky type of people to achieve fame and be greeted with other famous members/players which also happens in real life. It's just a matter of time and effort and you'll get there. Took me like what? 3 months and everybody knew me. Just needs a bit dedication and not Ragequit or running away from the problem.

Here is an example(Think I can use NR, because Card will just mute me for the fun of it).
Imagine NR, went away for 2 years. And in those 2 years you have new members/staff. He comes back after 2 years saying "hello, you remember me?". And the new staff is like, "who the f are you". And then he is trying to prove ancient facts and reintroduce himself and the new staff is like: Back with the others, everybody has to be equal.
This is just a presumable example, doesn't mean it will happen.

As I understood, or tried to get what's the deal with the killassist it was causing trouble with the new plugins which lead to get removed. it's either no DD2 or nokillassist dd2
(Maki said something banlist hated killassist, need conformation)

You'll get a csgo server

Well, oldies are like elders. Nobody listens to them after a while
Just catching dust, waiting for their grave.

Too many coders, and you will have a finnish salad of codes. Most coders typically want to work alone unless they have a strict scope to work in.
Tony likes fire, some guy likes ice. Put both in, and you get a catastrophe.
And Managment is the easiest thing in the world, not sure why would you need graduated people in management school xD.

[DonTodo #]

First thing. Dafuq is wrong with u? That last sentence is completely and totally worthless and offensive.

2nd of all. We had a csgo server hosted by me and it went down because i left for a periode of time. It wasnt running good because of missing in advertising and dedication from other fronts.

[Phantoms]

and stop saying that they're useless and stuff ,

Useless

[Ren0k.]

should be trashed

[X-KilleR]

Csgo didnt work here cuz some reason, as stated by todo, doesn't mean it will not work ever here, in other community it work fine ,full and most of old gamer are moving to  csgo, most the new generation of player from 15 year old ,will start with csgo ,and will not waste time in a game with multi lag, issues and a bad graphic quality, for us old gamer it is fine cuz we started from crappy msdos game, but for them old cs is the crappy game, plus valve is pushing to it, with their policy and weird cs 1.6 update

[WIDE AWAKE ~ h1x?]

Mate, let me tell you something. Getting insulted in TeamSpeak 3 will not make your day worse. It's the internet and this life is virtual one.

If you take internet as in real life, then you're a nerd and addicited.

[Ed]

Replica, no one gives a crap about who has been here for how long. People come and people go.

Rawrplus is one my oldest friends here and same as Arne, Spaff, Popay (Popay was my first Ambrosia friend ), Renegade etc. What does it matter? November for instance is new here if you want to put who is old and who is not, and he is my friend (somewhat) too. I had a friendly relationship with you, but I won't support any of this "oldie bs", because it is not true. You think you have the priority voice here because you are old or have been here for a long time? Well to actually talk about you Replica a.k.a PL, you are in multiple communities, you were never really loyal to Ambrosia. You stayed here because you are nosy and you like to know and gather information.

You also have protected a banevader in the past, hence why your was removed from FM rank. My memory might be rusty, but I remember moments and most likely better than you do.

As you portrayed "oldies" in AuA topic, did you were in another community where all those wonderful things happened? But yes, you was, you was in multiple communities and sometimes I think you cannot tell which one is which. In Ambrosia these things you talked about are not facts. It was hard from the start and never became easy. We had issues with a lot of drama which was generated mostly from Jailbreak. Then Staff had issues within each other. So seriously, stop saying that no one is listening to you or "oldies", it is the same, if the suggestion is good (no matter from who it came from), it would be accepted. I can tell you from my past and experience, when I was just a normal admin or just a member, I suggested a lot of things for Jailbreak. Some things were accepted and some were ignored.

Besides, everyone has lives too, this is what thEnd couldn't understand. You cannot do everything and you shouldn't. After all no one here is getting paid. If we did get paid, it would be a different story.


On topic*

timmy, I am sorry, but I don't see any of those suggestions valuable.

[Fry]

First thing. Dafuq is wrong with u? That last sentence is completely and totally worthless and offensive.

2nd of all. We had a csgo server hosted by me and it went down because i left for a periode of time. It wasnt running good because of missing in advertising and dedication from other fronts.

Keep swearing , Keep acting like a bitch , i don't give a fuck really



another oldie is complaining

[fabbbyyy #i love ron]

the fuk is neondragon?

[Ren0k.]

yeah why advertise that community??

[Makiavel]

yeah why advertise that community??

No need to be so uptight, there is nothing wrong with mentioning the name of another community as long as it's not meant to sn-atch away players or just advertise. Seeing the way he used it, he broke no rules whatsoever.

Hello Dear Ambrosians, Today i'm going to bring some suggestions to this topic in-order for a better popularity.


SO , First of all  - DO NOT let these "oldies" rush at "newbies" or "kids" or in-active guys like me


For example yesterday i've joined the teamspeak 3 server , i met Fabby and card clasher , then i said hi to fabby but he didn't remember me , so he start saying who the f#ck are you , and i start swearing of course.

and ofc i know that fabby can harrass some times because i know him in neonDragon community and i know how he acts towards the NEWBIES.

I think that's the way fabbbyyy treats everyone really. Besides that, I heard that you were being too overfamiliar with him when he didn't know you, hence the way he reacted. It has nothing to do with oldies or new people in this case nor do we give preferential treatment to oldies or promote them to have a negative attitude against newer players, rather the contrary in fact. If you see someone not acting right then simply report him.

Second of all - Never , Ever, try to delete a plug-in for having a "issue" as the kill assist plugin , if you want to delete it then make a poll and see what members think, afterall its not about ranks , its a COMMUNITY , and in the real-life communities Only the civilians can control it.

We reserve ourselves the right to remove any plugin or server configuration if it causes performance, gameplay issues or anything that causes trouble (such as bugging out admin rights and stuff of the likes). In other cases, we generally refer to the Head Admin that should already consider the players' opinion. That doesn't always happen but we attempt to follow this as much as possible unless what's being asked is really unreasonable.

Thirdly ,  Now i know this suggestion got already suggested. BUT i'm re-suggesting IT , why not having a cs:go Server , every skilled member in public-dust 2 Server is leaving to cs:go to another communities , now just tell me why instead of having a cs:go server there's a dead server called Samp Arrabia ?

We have enough place on the dedibox to host many more servers and as such there isn't really a need to replace another server to create a new one. SA-MP is fairly unique and coded very nicely and it would be a shame to close such a server, I doubt this will happen unless the project holder (Einstein in this case) stops working on it or Ambrosia closes. As for having a CS:GO server, it's being thought about and most likely will happen. We have to think about the type of server and then get going with it.

Fourthly , Please try to increase the courage of loyal members , every 1 - 2 weeks i see a loyal member leaves , now when i check his "leaving topic" i only see , Bye , see ya , lol finaly , wth ?

It really happens everywhere, people lose motivation or interest and quit while new people come. It's not something we can directly interfere in as we can't please everybody with our releases. Ideally we'd want to keep everyone but realistically, it just isn't possible.

Festively , Please TRY to find a CS-PLAYERS and that they're already experienced at Coding or Managing the Servers and when i say MANAGING the servers i do not mean administrate the servers i mean deleting/adding/editing/fixing the plugins and maps and checking the logs etc.......

This is easier said than done, but even then I believe the staff team is functional when it comes to coding and managing of servers. Few more people wouldn't hurt but we'd rather want quality over quantity and as such recruit only people we're certain about. So far, no one suitable has been found. Development might seem slow at times for you guys and I think the reason development is a bit slow and sloppy at the moment is not due to staff being incompetent but rather the lack of communication and teamwork, if we succeed into informing and discussing changes better and quicker and who does them then we should get back up to optimal speed. That and people being less busy and more present, let's not forget it's summer so everyone is all over the place enjoying their vacation. Hopefully that itself should get better soon though.

Finally ,  Now this is really optional BUT , why don't you guys invite some of your friends to join the admin team ? i mean , the public-dust2-jailbreak servers really needs a active admins.....

We would like to have more administrators but we need to have suitable and willing people and unfortunately not everyone fits both criterias. We encourage people to apply if we think they're suitable but aside from that, there unfortunately isn't much we can do.

Thanks for the suggestions and feedback, it's appreciated anyhow.

[WILLIE]

who taught you to make this kind of suggestions?

[P o p a y]

I personally haven't read even one valuable suggestion. All I can see is just random talk, so I will say sorry but this "suggestions" are going to be rejected, first of all based on the fact that there is not an actual suggestion suggested by you, and secondly we do not accept any server suggestions in the moment, although we are aware of the fact that we need a new server.

Addition: You are aware that you are kind of reporting yourself for swearing at teamspeak?

Suggestions Rejected,
FM