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Offline jon92

[PermBan]Axn using wallhack in jb
« on: June 06, 2014, 04:16:57 am »
Playername: AxN |Tiro na Tola|
Steam-ID (If Possible):  # 7 "AxN |Tiro na Tola|" 307 STEAM_0:0:1163850826  15 28:44  129   
Server: jb
Date & Time: idk, now
Complaint: wh
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...) Demo : https://www.mediafire.com/?lw18mp72u7dzn77
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 05:04:39 am by *PL* »

Offline Renegade

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Re: Axn using wallhack in jb
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2014, 04:41:36 am »
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/538625/axn-dem.html

this is another brief demo. maybe it will add to the other one. seems fishy to me, but i could hear all the footsteps so it was natural for a while anyway, you can make the decision yourself. I got lost in the chat so didn't see much it is only 1 command away.

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Re: Axn using wallhack in jb
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2014, 05:41:22 am »
Haha, all this time jon92 was Slim Shady, I never knew that lol :D Wassup Slim.

Now, lets get serious here. About the demo - when he first killed that guy at race - I believe it was razors, nothing suspicious there. That spot behind the box is a common hiding place, every time there is someone hiding there. Also you could see Razors' head and arms sticking out through the box.
But then, we get to the part where he goes to the Deathrun. He immediately looks at the guy next to the door through the wall. Normal players keep their aim at the door, but he looked straight at him. When he started chasing him inside the deathrun on top, you could see him following the guy with his aim. I do believe it might be Wallhack, but this demo isn't quite enough, needs a bit more proof to ban him.
About Renegayd's demo - It can be sound, but its also really really dodgy the way he follows them with his aim through the walls, I mean even with sound you cannot predict 100% where the enemy is standing.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2014, 05:45:55 am by NovemberRaiN` »

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Offline jon92

Re: Axn using wallhack in jb
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2014, 12:32:56 am »
Ye but u can see after he killed razors, he Went straight to deathrun without even searching any other place. He went race first, then directly to dr. Normal player would go check cells , gun room , the school room , the 3 chairs room, soccer field. He skipped all these and went straight dr. very suspicious

Offline black star

Re: Axn using wallhack in jb
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2014, 05:51:32 am »
Wh 80% ( my opinion )

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Re: Axn using wallhack in jb
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2014, 05:59:08 am »
Ye but u can see after he killed razors, he Went straight to deathrun without even searching any other place. He went race first, then directly to dr. Normal player would go check cells , gun room , the school room , the 3 chairs room, soccer field. He skipped all these and went straight dr. very suspicious
Many people go straight to Deathrun because its a really popular place. Deathrun and Race and the most common HNS places to go to, but Deathrun mainly because it has guns in it. Also, it can be because he is wallhacking, I just hope a report pannelist looks into this quickly, because this player plays in JB every day now, and I cannot really catch him while hes Terrorist.
@ black star .... How do you measure your percentages exactly? On what basis do you decide how many % to give it? Im pretty sure you're just putting random numbers here.

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Offline 'PL'

Re: Axn using wallhack in jb
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2014, 05:01:09 am »
Wallhack: 60%

Other comments: I don't mind to see other people are using my measurements for cheating types and certainty. It usually comes from how much you watch the demos and how much arguments you have for and against the reported. I found to be in my style of localizing how much i was certain when making my judgement. So I'll expose my logical approach to this gameplay:

Player can be determined as a cheater under the characteristics that he isn't thermally looking around the places. Even though the rooms he went in are not that used for hide and seek it still has places that serve a hiding purpose. For example, the right side of the northern bench, has a corner-space and it can house up to 4-5 people depending on organization. A Ct is required to investigate it by closing the distance and acquiring LoS(line of sight). The kz challenge on the northwestern side is not applicable for ground view so of course you can have people hiding up there. This style of gameplay can be either taken as the player is: lazy (coincidentally having some reasons of no logical basis to just see the general vicinity of these places even though he was looking at them obstructedly for a 2-3 seconds), hiding (having the idea that he is being watched, trying to disguise his actions). Because of this I'm not sure how to break this paradox. We should not forget that a case of random event (statistic term) should not be overlooked as there is quite some people that play weirdly temporarily.

The instant lock on to the race and deathrun as NR elaborated holds water so I don't see any reason to articulate his words. What could be said in the first demo presented by slim shady was his preaiming right before he gets trapped at the deathrun. I really did notice that for the millisecond. All in all the demo does not build up the guilty verdict for this person.

On the second demo, I right away noticed something odd. Why he was playing with his awp on space day. Any ordinary player would just aim at the ladder or the door not show of his fingerwork(I'm guessing that renegade publicly announced his entry, making the person to really try to hide his cheat). Even itself being a longshot, I'm going to risk it and ban him on that suspicious activity. Other then that, I did not found any preaiming as sound could be explained for the movements and shots that he did.

Player is banned!
Thank you for the time and effort following the format and reporting him to us.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 05:03:27 am by *PL* »