[JB Suggestion]Few things which might make JB better

[SNap]

Special Days:
I looking at the Special Day menu and I noticed that the days Cage Day and Freeday are not removed... what kind of SpecialDay is the Cage day or who will vote for Freeday...

For me Freeday is just waste of time which everyone agreed thats why we made it to end at 5:00 not 4:00 as before. Those 2 days just have to be removed from the list.
On their place you have to add fun special days like Freeze Tag and Nemesis day... Tonykaram can you work on that...

Maps:
jb_escape is great map and allows a lot of games to be played on it using only creativity. But whoever added it failed because it does not appear on the list and which is why it fucks up when its chosen for nextmap. You might wanna take a look at the other maps as well since started. In the vote I am not familiar with any of the maps. I don't know what stupid maps were added but we always pick well known ones like rehab, snow, projetocs even xmf... the other maps are just unknown with strange names so nobody choose them.
Just take a quick look at the list and remove some and on their place add good old maps like:
jail_czone
jb_russia_v1
jail_renner_b6

Also why do we have jb_snow and jb_oasis when they are the same... one is enough you know.
Just my opinion.

[Ed]

correction, the round time is 9min, thats why its set to 5min.

[TeeKaaY]

Special Days:
I looking at the Special Day menu and I noticed that the days Cage Day and Freeday are not removed... what kind of SpecialDay is the Cage day or who will vote for Freeday...

For me Freeday is just waste of time which everyone agreed thats why we made it to end at 5:00 not 4:00 as before. Those 2 days just have to be removed from the list.
On their place you have to add fun special days like Freeze Tag and Nemesis day... Tonykaram can you work on that...

You do realize that when you are trying to vote for Cage Day and Free Day, the plugin does not let you do that right? It only allows you to pick it when the vote happens every round.
So this part of your suggestion is worthless.

For the other part, I do not deal with maps. I simply added a few maps recently cause I really thought that the map cycle needed a fresh visit.

[SNap]

Sami I don't know in which archives is that topic but when we were talking about the freeday end time the round was 8 mins.
Monster was the one who agreed on that. I didn't really notice time has been changed and in this case I am suggesting to make it end at 6. Whats the point of this Freeday except for wasting time.

tonykaram its not worthless suggestion at all. If we can't vote them why the fuck are they even there. Simply remove them.
Also what about adding the Specials I said? Is that too hard for you.

[Card Clasher]

Sami I don't know in which archives is that topic but when we were talking about the freeday end time the round was 8 mins.
Monster was the one who agreed on that. I didn't really notice time has been changed and in this case I am suggesting to make it end at 6. Whats the point of this Freeday except for wasting time.

tonykaram its not worthless suggestion at all. If we can't vote them why the **** are they even there. Simply remove them.
Also what about adding the Specials I said? Is that too hard for you.

Why are you speaking this way ? Tbh if I was him I wouldve denied ur request instantly for the way youre  speaking to him.. Be thankful youre playing on his mod at least..

['PL']

Temper temper, tony just called snap worthless so snap was a bit aggravated.

[TeeKaaY]

No, hell no.
I called no one worthless, I said the first part was worthless. Reread what I wrote.

It only allows you to pick it when the vote happens every round.
So this part of your suggestion is worthless.

[Ren0k.]

YEA, we need some oldschool action. JB_arizona all the way!

[taha]

I miss that jb_russia
but it had spawn issues no ?

[Fadi Al-Johari]

Nice ideas, and yeah add Freeze tag SD and was really fun, don't add jb_russia_v1 its boring and no much games, and the other 2 maps are really nice and old, it was the best maps in jb

[SNap]

Sami I don't know in which archives is that topic but when we were talking about the freeday end time the round was 8 mins.
Monster was the one who agreed on that. I didn't really notice time has been changed and in this case I am suggesting to make it end at 6. Whats the point of this Freeday except for wasting time.

tonykaram its not worthless suggestion at all. If we can't vote them why the **** are they even there. Simply remove them.
Also what about adding the Specials I said? Is that too hard for you.

Why are you speaking this way ? Tbh if I was him I wouldve denied ur request instantly for the way youre  speaking to him.. Be thankful youre playing on his mod at least..

Be thankful? So just because his mod is on the server I should kiss his ass? Well no thank you... Stevko customised the previous mod of the server so much that it was like his own new but he never got offended when we tell him what to improve.
Tonykaram's job as UC is to improve this mod so I am just suggesting those Special days changes and he says it's worthless. He should change the mod the way players want not the way HE wants since it's now on our server.

[TeeKaaY]

First of all, the old jailbreak was not customized one bit. I know so cause I looked at the code and it was hidious.
Second of all, please reread what I said you still do not understand. I did not say your post is worthless just the first part.

And for the HE WANTS things, yes I can change the mod however I see fit. Players don't always know whats best for the server and they so not know what happens behind the scenes coding and administration wise. So please think twice before replying and becore suggesting a new feature or whatever.

If you still answer without rereading what I said, you will be warned for spamming and/or flamming.

[Fisu]

Tony isn't it possible to remove the "Freeday, and cageday" from the voting? I guess that's the issue he has. Just reply with a : It is, or it isn't cuz it would cause etc. etc. would be so simple if you guys communicate normally instead of always starting a fight.

[Harry]

Remove shop and add RTD <3

The green LAZOR tho

['PL']

First of all, the old jailbreak was not customized one bit. I know so cause I looked at the code and it was hidious.
Second of all, please reread what I said you still do not understand. I did not say your post is worthless just the first part.

And for the HE WANTS things, yes I can change the mod however I see fit. Players don't always know whats best for the server and they so not know what happens behind the scenes coding and administration wise. So please think twice before replying and becore suggesting a new feature or whatever.

If you still answer without rereading what I said, you will be warned for spamming and/or flamming.

Tony, I beg you. Don't make him leave cuz of this.
Just say Alright, I will take your suggestion in consideration. Think of a more polite replacement for fuck sake!

[SNap]

First of all, the old jailbreak was not customized one bit. I know so cause I looked at the code and it was hidious.
Second of all, please reread what I said you still do not understand. I did not say your post is worthless just the first part.

And for the HE WANTS things, yes I can change the mod however I see fit. Players don't always know whats best for the server and they so not know what happens behind the scenes coding and administration wise. So please think twice before replying and becore suggesting a new feature or whatever.

If you still answer without rereading what I said, you will be warned for spamming and/or flamming.

I think you are the one not reading my posts. Stop acting bossy just because you made that mod and explain to me why you refuse to remove Cage day and Freeday from SD menu? I politely asked those days to simply be removed from the list since they are not special days you know and you said thats worthless since we can't vote for them anyways. Also you are not saying anything about the 2 new special days I am asking to be added?

You think your mod is too perfect and you refuse to make any changes unless it's any of your ideas... well guess what in Ambrosia player's suggestions are on first place since this community exists for them!
And one last thing... I don't think there is any reason to treathen me about giving me warnings since I never spammed or insulted you. Maybe only your big ego got insulted.

[NovemberRaiN`]

Guys guys, relax it, both of you. This would have been much better if we just did it really formally - just say yes/no and why is that.
About snap's suggestion - to be honest I don't really mind those days in there, I mean, that vote comes rarely, the last 2 minutes of the map, and we usually play like what - 1 special day which is from that plugin at the end of the map, the automatic special days?   Removing them won't really change anything, or improve anything, so its kinda meh. Regarding the other suggestions - I agree with adding freeze tag, played it before, its fun to play Regarding the maps - yea, why not, the more the merrier
I do agree that Oasis needs to be removed - its almost like Snow, with the only difference that its laggier, and many people complain that they get fps drops and lag spikes on that map - I'm one of them.
P.S - Snappy, I like this topic, but saying a simple "please" goes a long way, just common courtesy

[Mister]

Thats what i dont like on you 2 tony and card.Your attitude.I appreciate all the job you have done to help ambrosia..but for godsake stop picking fights and then trying to defend each other.I ve never seen ambrosia in such mess 3 years already..I feel ashamed of it.
I dont have any personal issues with both of you..but please just be someway more kind.

O.T: JB_west back in the game if possible :3

[TeeKaaY]

Snap, when the cvar uj_vote is set to 1, that means the vote will come up every round. If there are not Cage Day and Free Day, then the server will not be a jailbreak server. It would be a multimod server.
This is due to many servers that do not follow ambrosia's rule of having cage day every single round for the entire map. Real steam only and mature servers offer the vote every single round. That way the CTs will pick the day they desire. And no it's not gonna be a special day everytime, mature people do vote for a cage day.

What harm would it do if those options are disabled to vote for? Why do you want them removed so bad? Whether they are removed or not, you still cannot vote for them on ambrosia's server. I have it that way because i wanted my plugin to be customizable as much as possible for very different users. No it's not for ambrosia only, I am just letting ambrosia use the plugin for free, I have the total right to discontinue, sell or even offer the plugin to anyone I wish.

About the other special days, it's not easy to add those. There are many situations that you need to check for. I can't simply write "PLUGIN, DO THIS", there are plenty of checks that need to be done. For example, I'll show you the easiest ever, the knife day:

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StartKnifeDay( ) {
new iPlayers[ 32 ], iNum, iTempID;
get_players( iPlayers, iNum, "a" );

new iPlayersT[ 32 ], iNumT;
get_players( iPlayersT, iNumT, "ae", "TERRORIST" );

new iHealthCT = iNumT * KNIFE_HEALTH_CT;

for( new iLoop = 0; iLoop < iNum; iLoop++ ) {
iTempID = iPlayers[ iLoop ];

StripPlayerWeapons( iTempID );
cs_set_user_armor( iTempID, 100, CS_ARMOR_VESTHELM );

switch( cs_get_user_team( iTempID ) ) {
case CS_TEAM_CT: set_user_health( iTempID, iHealthCT );
case CS_TEAM_T: set_user_health( iTempID, KNIFE_HEALTH_T );
}
}

ShowTopInfo( );
OpenCells( );
}
No that's not the entire code for knife day, you also have to make checks in the following ham hooks:

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Ham_TakeHealth_Player_Pre
Ham_AddPlayerItem_Player_Pre
Ham_Use_Recharger_Pre
Ham_Touch_Weapon_Pre
FM_AddToFullPack
FM_SetModel
FM_EmitSound
...

Then comes along all the intermediate checks: check if all prisoners died and only one remains, check if each player has a vip and show knife accordingly, admin issued restart round command do some things, ... etc

Therefore I need at least 2 days of constant work to add any simple day, imagine for freeze tag, it would be countless of days of work. If only you knew how scripting works, you would know how hard this is.

['PL']

THERE WE GO. WAS THAT SO HARD!?
Now we know why we can't remove freeday and cageday. And we can't add new special days.