[JB Information] Ratio and selftransfering.

[Ed]

As some of you might know by now that we have new restrictions for CT team.
In order to be ct, these things are a must:

A good working microphone.
A good knowledge of rules.
600 minutes gameplay in server.

There is also a set ratio by plugin which is 1:3.


Some say you are allowed to selftransfer, but you cannot be CT for 2 maps in a row unless no one else wants to be CT.
This is somewhat an issue I see in future and I do wish to keep the same approach of admins picking CT's.

You may selftransfer and go by rule first goes first takes when no admin is online, but while there is an administrator in server, then he should sort out the CT's.


Ratio is another thing. A lot of people still get confused. Ratio 1:3 is for example:

1 Counter-Terrorists vs 3 Terrorists
2 Counter-Terrorists vs 6 Terrorists
3 Counter-Terrorists vs 9 Terrorists
4 Counter-Terrorists vs 12 Terrorists
5 Counter-Terrorists vs 15 Terrorists
6 Counter-Terrorists vs 18 Terrorists
7 Counter-Terrorists vs 21 Terrorists
8 Counter-Terrorists vs 24 Terrorists

The balance is optional and should be maintained at most times. The only exception is when there is an odd number for example 5 Counter-Terrorists vs 13 OR 14 Terrorists, you might take one CT off or you might just leave that person there, that depends on how many people leave. As I also understand, is that the plugin will act on balance it self, if people leave, one CT will be transferred back to T.

Any questions?

*Edit

All credits goes to Tony, for executing the plugin at its best. Thank you!

[Phantoms]

Nah, nice job  .

[NovemberRaiN`]

So technically, you may self-transfer at any point, but at the start of each map, still the Admins hand pick the CTs. Thats good, because as you said it still might be confusion if at the start of the map everyone just starts self-transferring. Also, favoritism shouldn't be allowed for admins, for example a friend of yours wants to be a CT, but he says last, you should always be fair to everyone and go with the players who asked for it first (of course if they haven't been a CT the previous map, then the priority goes to those who haven't been), and also meet the required criteria to be a CT.
Also, no more things as in "I will go for cover" and people without a mic go to the CT team. People without a mic should be allowed only in difficult circumstances - for example, there are 2 CTs with a microphone, but nobody, absolutely nobody else wants to be a CT - then a player might be allowed to go for cover, without a microphone, am I wrong sami?
Nice work sami and tony!

[Ed]

Well credits go to Tony

About the favoritism November, as admin you pick which ppl go CT, if you go by who says first "me" goes, then thats your choice, I don't mind admins asking who want's to be CT's and picking out the ones they see fit. Of course favoritism shouldn't be the case, but there are the good CT's vs bad ones. As for example I would take an oldie and put him ct without doubt, it's partly favoritism, but it's for the benefit of the server and its players. It depends on situations, people etc.

[NovemberRaiN`]

Well credits go to Tony

About the favoritism November, as admin you pick which ppl go CT, if you go by who says first "me" goes, then thats your choice, I don't mind admins asking who want's to be CT's and picking out the ones they see fit. Of course favoritism shouldn't be the case, but there are the good CT's vs bad ones. As for example I would take an oldie and put him ct without doubt, it's partly favoritism, but it's for the benefit of the server and its players. It depends on situations, people etc.

Ofcourse credits to tony as well.
In my opinion, if you decide to go with a CT you trust and know can handle it, you should only do that with 1 person who is skilled and trusted, and let the rest transfer by first come, first serve
Also, situations really depend on the map - for example in difficult maps, I would go with favoritism and pick CTs who I know will handle it, just so I can avoid having to transfer people back who fail.

[Ed]

As long as it's a fair game. That's all I ask from everyone, specially administrators.

[TeeKaaY]

At the moment the plugin only check when player is actually transferring himself to CT. However, an update will come shortly that will automatically transfer the last CT joined to T if ratio is broken (whether by a disconnecting T or any other circumstances).

However please not that this way there is no way to excess the ratio, that means admins who transfer players to CT will be useless as the plugin will transfer them back (that of course if the ratio is broken when the admin transferred that particular player).

[Ḏ℮ηїαł]

Can we just get rid of this selfing rule and let admins hand pick CT's like before?

So much players are complaining.

Even if there is an admin on, people still self regardless if the admin takes care of the CT's, it's become quite a confusion now..

['PL']

Well credits go to Tony

About the favoritism November, as admin you pick which ppl go CT, if you go by who says first "me" goes, then thats your choice, I don't mind admins asking who want's to be CT's and picking out the ones they see fit. Of course favoritism shouldn't be the case, but there are the good CT's vs bad ones. As for example I would take an oldie and put him ct without doubt, it's partly favoritism, but it's for the benefit of the server and its players. It depends on situations, people etc.

I wouldn't say favoritism is used when you put an oldie in the ct team. It's just ambrosia's policy of their contribution in the past. And of course, those oldies are filtered by me since anybody can say anything.

[Ed]

When admin is online, he/she is still hand picking CT's and selftransfering is not allowed unless an admin asks you to.

selftransfering is allowed when there is no admin online.

[Ocelvon]

2 maps in a row unless other people want to be CT.

Shouldn't it be unless no one wants ct?
Pretty sure this ain't correct xD but it could be me tired

[Ed]

2 maps in a row unless other people want to be CT.

Shouldn't it be unless no one wants ct?
Pretty sure this ain't correct xD but it could be me tired

You are right , small error. edited.

[Fisu]

It's quite annoying, I played JB for more than 1-2 years and I didn't play as much with the plugin, and I can't self, which was needed today xD =D

FUU ^^

[Ed]

It's quite annoying, I played JB for more than 1-2 years and I didn't play as much with the plugin, and I can't self, which was needed today xD =D

FUU ^^

I am not getting this messages context Please explain what you mean.

[Fisu]

Well the Rule shows that it's about the skill a commander needs. And with 600 Minutes you can get skilled at commanding.

--> I got that.

But as for me or other players who left/went inactive, and we didn't play as much as others, or even won't play, we already have over 1000 of minutes in the JB-Server, just not with thatthe new couting-Minutes plugin. I tried to self today i coulden't as I had to make 10 hours first, but as that is way to hard of the time I got to play, it's quite annoying (love to be ct). So if there's a way, inacitve guys can ask to let the minutes get filled up by HA or higher, it would be nice.

But as I said, the rule itself is perfectly done, just annyoing for ppl like me xD =D


Hope you got me now.

[Ed]

Tony, does the timer is set on steam id's?

Fisu, I understand, but hopefully when most active people will go through this, they will have more to enjoy. It's rather avoiding freekillers and random server joiners who don't care about the rules and the mod.

[TeeKaaY]

Yeah steam id.

[Fisu]

Tony, does the timer is set on steam id's?

Fisu, I understand, but hopefully when most active people will go through this, they will have more to enjoy. It's rather avoiding freekillers and random server joiners who don't care about the rules and the mod.

Well yes that's awesome. xD But yea ^^ cya in game ^^

[Oraken]

nice move it totally cleans up the fkers and totally worth the time..

its a clean full server since this 600 min thingy