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Offline 'PL'

[JB] My Plan.
« on: May 15, 2014, 09:55:44 pm »
Lately most of you have spotted some of the oldies, and probably are wondering why,how,where. So I'll directly show my plan to improve the jb server.
The oldies were remembered because of their creativity, ideas, innovations, intellect, ego, behavior...(in whole positive development of the atmosphere in the jailbreak server). My logic is to hit 2 birds with 1 stone. Firstly, they will see each other again as without a doubt nostalgia is not that easy to cure. By them seeing their oldie friends they will procrastinate the same-level of commanding like it was felt 4 years ago. This will inspire the newer people to focus on certain points which these oldies catalyze subconsciously. I can assert that the average age per person is 13-15 and they are susceptable to mimicking more older people. However this plan as experimental it is will only work if the more maturer people with self-awareness and strong-personality permit them for the oldies to adapt with the new rules. It's quite justifiable that they had years commanding and playing by one set of rules and back then the jailbreak rule changes were not that common.

So What I'm asking is flexibility and tolerance to them making mistakes, some of these people went to LoL, CSGO... some are married, have a child... some are working or generally busy with University. I completely oversee this isn't the best excuse for them, but think how it was when you came for the first time in jailbreak. The difference here is that these people just need a little bit to get back in to the jailbreak business. And an year from now you will see 40 renegades, 40 chakas, 40 tony's... etc. (Keep in mind all experiments need to be conducted with optimistic entry point)

Before you accuse me of being a maniac for worshiping something so silly as a commanding routine,  I have to tell you that I was 14 when I come to ambrosia. And that commanding according to my calculations is, was and will be the most joyful time of my "Internet-hood"

If you have a better idea to solve the current debacle in jailbreak, please counter me and tell me I was wasting my 2 years doing psychological analysis on every ambrosian...

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Re: My Plan.
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2014, 12:14:18 am »
What up folks! :D



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Re: My Plan.
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2014, 12:41:09 am »
If I see 40 renegades, I'll leave probably. And I really hope that people do NOT mimic what some of the oldies do, or tony for example. Many of the oldies don't know the new rules and probably won't even bother reading them, because they think since they've been here ages ago, they have a free pass to not know the new rules. And tolerance? Nope my good sir, every player will be treated the same. And I've said this a lot of times, sometimes you just cannot teach creativity. Some people are just not as creative as others, don't have good hand-eye coordination to stop rebellers, and are simply less skilled than others.
I think its nice that you're bringing back old people, and I hope your plan works, and the CTs actually do get more creative, but the idea that was suggested earlier and I support it - for newbie CTs, just put them on easy maps, or put them with a more experienced and creative CT with them. I always support the idea to give people chances even if they are new, but if they keep failing a lot, they will probably get sent back to Terrorist team.
And about you Replica, I barely even see you these days in Jailbreak, and even if I do see you, mostly you just use your mic, you never do actually play, and even if you do play most of the times you suicide when you get bored. I see you go CT like once every 2 weeks, so just be an example yourself.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2014, 12:43:52 am by NovemberRaiN` »

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Re: My Plan.
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2014, 07:16:13 am »
http://youtu.be/2QIb1Ksakz4

The key to that is - Big Rock, Small Birds.

But yeah on a more serious note, your plan seems great and lets hope it succeeds, but just please for the love of all that's holy, NO 40 TONY'S. If we have 40 Tony's and 40 Renegades... I don't think that'll be a good example. (No offense you two.) Chaka Laka is a good commander, follows the rules quite clearly and has a good sense of humor, he might be a better example to follow.

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Re: My Plan.
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2014, 08:42:32 am »
If I see 40 renegades, I'll leave probably. And I really hope that people do NOT mimic what some of the oldies do, or tony for example. Many of the oldies don't know the new rules and probably won't even bother reading them, because they think since they've been here ages ago, they have a free pass to not know the new rules. And tolerance? Nope my good sir, every player will be treated the same. And I've said this a lot of times, sometimes you just cannot teach creativity. Some people are just not as creative as others, don't have good hand-eye coordination to stop rebellers, and are simply less skilled than others.
I think its nice that you're bringing back old people, and I hope your plan works, and the CTs actually do get more creative, but the idea that was suggested earlier and I support it - for newbie CTs, just put them on easy maps, or put them with a more experienced and creative CT with them. I always support the idea to give people chances even if they are new, but if they keep failing a lot, they will probably get sent back to Terrorist team.
And about you Replica, I barely even see you these days in Jailbreak, and even if I do see you, mostly you just use your mic, you never do actually play, and even if you do play most of the times you suicide when you get bored. I see you go CT like once every 2 weeks, so just be an example yourself.
If you are looking to compare personal workings and achievements in a community, I really have the advantage here. My jailbreak experience and knowledge is quite superior then the average joe. I have made some small-scale community goals here and then but nothing too memorable of course. Sure I'm not really contributing to solve the jailbreak problem with taking things myself, but I have ideas and experiments which would work as the success rate is extremely high(Yes I did the statistics). As a mental characteristic suicide in my opinion at times would make everyone laugh and followup comment. It's not the result of being bored. Some commanders think is a insult to their commanding, not necessarily. I feel the atmosphere is really dull or silent, you have to either do something on yourself or in general(and yes this involves administrator abuse if it comes to that). And then you have everybody talking to each-other opening themselves and etc.

It doesn't mean that If I'm unable to deliver the needed dose of creativity that it's my fault the server is right now, my creative days are over years ago. What are you seeing now is just leftovers. I'm insisting a way to overcome the problematic suspense in jailbreak. You have good reasoning that oldies would think that way, but I'm not saying the inequality to last till end of the world. I'm directly proposing that these people know what they are doing and in order for them to adapt you need to some extent to tolerate their mistakes. Besides that Conflict with Rene and Lady J, I see that tasha didn't made a single report to any admin. It tells me everything is fine and nobody is doing anything wrong. It's quite understandable that 3 years of one set of rules rooting in somebody's mind is not that easy to uproot. Set yourself as a example when you leave jailbreak and come back after 2 years. You'll tell me you will reread them, but will you?

Creativity can be endeavored and conducted with the use of catalysis or psychological inducers which comes from other activities. Is just like teaching a 3 year old to draw. It just needs a jolt in the right spot and you have a brand new ct commander. And since we don't have the most ideal persona to promote good commanding (no offense chaka, but you got that place since lot of oldies left), I'm asking some people to come back. Is really annoying that when you ask them of a favor and somebody behind your back tells me "everybody should be equal","New rules". Here is an other example, say you are persuading your friend to join jailbreak. An administrator in the server will not allow that because he is not experienced. So you have 2 choices: Fail to bring your friend in jailbreak, temporary give a freepass to your friend. I bet you will go after the second one.

Thanks for supporting my experiment, and please excuse if my reaction was too aggravated.


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Re: My Plan.
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2014, 04:43:07 pm »
Nice Idea , It can Work well........ With Support.

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Re: My Plan.
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2014, 04:49:10 am »
Replica, it does not matter what you USED to be. We're looking into the future, and working on the present, no need to dwell in the past. You have achievements, but RIGHT now, you aren't being a very good example. I used to be a really good football player, but right now I can barely run for 10 minutes straight, that doesn't mean I can go ahead and become pro, based on some past skills. Don't take me wrong, the other day when you commanded, I quite enjoyed your ideas, and your style. But do that more often. Stick to the plan with JAS - its a good one, sorry if I missed the meeting (or not?) but i'd like to be there, if it hasn't happened yet, because I work in the weekends and I can't come.
P.S - I didn't say that any of the current JB problems are because of you - in fact neither of them are. It's admirable that you're trying, and hopefully will succeed, to liven up and improve JailBreak.
In my opinion, the issue these days is that the CTs who are trying right now are mostly bellow the age of 16 - which for me means they are too lazy to research some game ideas for themselves. I personally tried googling game ideas, I've read the games topic on the forum several times, and my mind just clicks when coming up with game ideas. I won't mention any names, but there are some people copying my style of commanding, and the games I use right now, and I don't mind it.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2014, 04:54:08 am by NovemberRaiN` »

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Offline thEnd

Re: My Plan.
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2014, 05:23:01 am »
If I see 40 renegades, I'll leave probably. And I really hope that people do NOT mimic what some of the oldies do, or tony for example. Many of the oldies don't know the new rules and probably won't even bother reading them, because they think since they've been here ages ago, they have a free pass to not know the new rules. And tolerance? Nope my good sir, every player will be treated the same. And I've said this a lot of times, sometimes you just cannot teach creativity. Some people are just not as creative as others, don't have good hand-eye coordination to stop rebellers, and are simply less skilled than others.
I think its nice that you're bringing back old people, and I hope your plan works, and the CTs actually do get more creative, but the idea that was suggested earlier and I support it - for newbie CTs, just put them on easy maps, or put them with a more experienced and creative CT with them. I always support the idea to give people chances even if they are new, but if they keep failing a lot, they will probably get sent back to Terrorist team.
And about you Replica, I barely even see you these days in Jailbreak, and even if I do see you, mostly you just use your mic, you never do actually play, and even if you do play most of the times you suicide when you get bored. I see you go CT like once every 2 weeks, so just be an example yourself.
If you are looking to compare personal workings and achievements in a community, I really have the advantage here. My jailbreak experience and knowledge is quite superior then the average joe. I have made some small-scale community goals here and then but nothing too memorable of course. Sure I'm not really contributing to solve the jailbreak problem with taking things myself, but I have ideas and experiments which would work as the success rate is extremely high(Yes I did the statistics). As a mental characteristic suicide in my opinion at times would make everyone laugh and followup comment. It's not the result of being bored. Some commanders think is a insult to their commanding, not necessarily. I feel the atmosphere is really dull or silent, you have to either do something on yourself or in general(and yes this involves administrator abuse if it comes to that). And then you have everybody talking to each-other opening themselves and etc.

It doesn't mean that If I'm unable to deliver the needed dose of creativity that it's my fault the server is right now, my creative days are over years ago. What are you seeing now is just leftovers. I'm insisting a way to overcome the problematic suspense in jailbreak. You have good reasoning that oldies would think that way, but I'm not saying the inequality to last till end of the world. I'm directly proposing that these people know what they are doing and in order for them to adapt you need to some extent to tolerate their mistakes. Besides that Conflict with Rene and Lady J, I see that tasha didn't made a single report to any admin. It tells me everything is fine and nobody is doing anything wrong. It's quite understandable that 3 years of one set of rules rooting in somebody's mind is not that easy to uproot. Set yourself as a example when you leave jailbreak and come back after 2 years. You'll tell me you will reread them, but will you?

Creativity can be endeavored and conducted with the use of catalysis or psychological inducers which comes from other activities. Is just like teaching a 3 year old to draw. It just needs a jolt in the right spot and you have a brand new ct commander. And since we don't have the most ideal persona to promote good commanding (no offense chaka, but you got that place since lot of oldies left), I'm asking some people to come back. Is really annoying that when you ask them of a favor and somebody behind your back tells me "everybody should be equal","New rules". Here is an other example, say you are persuading your friend to join jailbreak. An administrator in the server will not allow that because he is not experienced. So you have 2 choices: Fail to bring your friend in jailbreak, temporary give a freepass to your friend. I bet you will go after the second one.

Thanks for supporting my experiment, and please excuse if my reaction was too aggravated.


P.S:
HAI SILVERO MAN, I KEPT UR SIGNATURE FOR YEARS.

I was trying to use google translate but it's useless.. :D I need better glasses to read this all -.-but anyhow the reunion of some oldies will be a nice thing. I would love to see rawr playing ..