[Surf]clear up the rules plz!

[ambient]

hey guys! the rules say do not jump from buy area and shoot into it. I got slayed for jumping and killing while me and my frag were both in the air (after we jumped off). Was admin rite of wrong? im confused. imo on a surf server u surf and kill in the air, thats what these maps are made for. if you cant punish an awp camper with a shotgun jumping after him its just insane.

[Santa]

The Thing is that you are not supposed to kill your enemy in buying places and if you jump from buy room, ur also not allowed to shoot into it, because it will end up unfair for those who is still buying weapons etc.. ! that just a rule that fits all map, you can kill ur enemy if u where both in the air , far away from the buying places/rooms !

hey guys! the rules say do not jump from buy area and shoot into it. I got slayed for jumping and killing while me and my frag were both in the air (after we jumped off). Was admin rite of wrong? im confused. imo on a surf server u surf and kill in the air, thats what these maps are made for. if you cant punish an awp camper with a shotgun jumping after him its just insane.

this may be a misunderstood action that happened but maybe you was so close to buy room, and that is still not allowed just like i said !

No that's not insane also camping with awp is not allowed for too long time, he cant shoot you if you jumped from buyroom and he was in at that moment,

[Rubix]

hey guys! the rules say do not jump from buy area and shoot into it. I got slayed for jumping and killing while me and my frag were both in the air (after we jumped off). Was admin rite of wrong? im confused. imo on a surf server u surf and kill in the air, thats what these maps are made for. if you cant punish an awp camper with a shotgun jumping after him its just insane.

If we are talking about surf_green, no you are not allowed to shoot them after they jump, jump with them and shoot instantly or jump out and shoot them whilst they are in.
It is not fair to do this and if you have an issue with a camper, simply report them on the forums if no admin is online or tell an admin/vip if there is one online.

[Koray]

Hello ambient, it was me who slayed you because you killed me while we both jumped out from the buyroom and after I told you its not allowed you started to argue with me that it is allowed so basicly you cant shoot anyone in the buyroom while you are in it, jump out of it or shoot someone who is jumping out of the buyroom but you can shoot into it from everywhete except buyroom. Anyway thanks that you understood what happend and hope it wont happen again, cya in surf lad!

[ambient]

hey guys! the rules say do not jump from buy area and shoot into it. I got slayed for jumping and killing while me and my frag were both in the air (after we jumped off). Was admin rite of wrong? im confused. imo on a surf server u surf and kill in the air, thats what these maps are made for. if you cant punish an awp camper with a shotgun jumping after him its just insane.

If we are talking about surf_green, no you are not allowed to shoot them after they jump, jump with them and shoot instantly or jump out and shoot them whilst they are in.
It is not fair to do this and if you have an issue with a camper, simply report them on the forums if no admin is online or tell an admin/vip if there is one online.

Rubix this just protects awp noobs who cant surf and camps all the time with awp. I have never seen such strange thing on any surf servers for 5+ years i play in surf mod. If you and your enemy are in the air u have a right to kill each other.

and btw i did not shoot into buy room, my kill was legit by current version of rules. You should correct them, like dont shoot first sec you are out of BR or untill an anemy lands on the ramp. But like i said it's utter nonsense.  My seggestion is to keep things like they are now. No shooting at those who are in buy room. period.

[Koray]

hey guys! the rules say do not jump from buy area and shoot into it. I got slayed for jumping and killing while me and my frag were both in the air (after we jumped off). Was admin rite of wrong? im confused. imo on a surf server u surf and kill in the air, thats what these maps are made for. if you cant punish an awp camper with a shotgun jumping after him its just insane.

If we are talking about surf_green, no you are not allowed to shoot them after they jump, jump with them and shoot instantly or jump out and shoot them whilst they are in.
It is not fair to do this and if you have an issue with a camper, simply report them on the forums if no admin is online or tell an admin/vip if there is one online.

Rubix this just protects awp noobs who cant surf and camps all the time with awp. I have never seen such strange thing on any surf servers for 5+ years i play in surf mod. If you and your enemy are in the air u have a right to kill each other.

and btw i did not shoot into buy room, my kill was legit by current version of rules. You should correct them, like dont shoot first sec you are out of BR or untill an anemy lands on the ramp. But like i said it's utter nonsense.  My seggestion is to keep things like they are now. No shooting at those who are in buy room. period.

did you think of the players who actually can surf? How they will abuse that by going to the buyroom and killing people even though they arent camping ? The rules are fine as it is  we dont need rules like that since it will get more complaints toward the admins/vips.

[ambient]

hey guys! the rules say do not jump from buy area and shoot into it. I got slayed for jumping and killing while me and my frag were both in the air (after we jumped off). Was admin rite of wrong? im confused. imo on a surf server u surf and kill in the air, thats what these maps are made for. if you cant punish an awp camper with a shotgun jumping after him its just insane.

If we are talking about surf_green, no you are not allowed to shoot them after they jump, jump with them and shoot instantly or jump out and shoot them whilst they are in.
It is not fair to do this and if you have an issue with a camper, simply report them on the forums if no admin is online or tell an admin/vip if there is one online.

Rubix this just protects awp noobs who cant surf and camps all the time with awp. I have never seen such strange thing on any surf servers for 5+ years i play in surf mod. If you and your enemy are in the air u have a right to kill each other.

and btw i did not shoot into buy room, my kill was legit by current version of rules. You should correct them, like dont shoot first sec you are out of BR or untill an anemy lands on the ramp. But like i said it's utter nonsense.  My seggestion is to keep things like they are now. No shooting at those who are in buy room. period.

did you think of the players who actually can surf? How they will abuse that by going to the buyroom and killing people even though they arent camping ? The rules are fine as it is  we dont need rules like that since it will get more complaints toward the admins/vips.

if you leave BR using boost that is on the edge of it, its really hard to hit you for the player who have jumped after you. ppl should learn to do that. The current rules are fine, that's exactly what im saying. They protect u when u are in BR. When u are outside you are on your own.

[Santa]

hold on there, there still some point where u cant shoot players and thats the place right after the buyroom while in air !

did u get it mate ?

[Koray]

hey guys! the rules say do not jump from buy area and shoot into it. I got slayed for jumping and killing while me and my frag were both in the air (after we jumped off). Was admin rite of wrong? im confused. imo on a surf server u surf and kill in the air, thats what these maps are made for. if you cant punish an awp camper with a shotgun jumping after him its just insane.

If we are talking about surf_green, no you are not allowed to shoot them after they jump, jump with them and shoot instantly or jump out and shoot them whilst they are in.
It is not fair to do this and if you have an issue with a camper, simply report them on the forums if no admin is online or tell an admin/vip if there is one online.

Rubix this just protects awp noobs who cant surf and camps all the time with awp. I have never seen such strange thing on any surf servers for 5+ years i play in surf mod. If you and your enemy are in the air u have a right to kill each other.

and btw i did not shoot into buy room, my kill was legit by current version of rules. You should correct them, like dont shoot first sec you are out of BR or untill an anemy lands on the ramp. But like i said it's utter nonsense.  My seggestion is to keep things like they are now. No shooting at those who are in buy room. period.

did you think of the players who actually can surf? How they will abuse that by going to the buyroom and killing people even though they arent camping ? The rules are fine as it is  we dont need rules like that since it will get more complaints toward the admins/vips.

if you leave BR using boost that is on the edge of it, its really hard to hit you for the player who have jumped after you. ppl should learn to do that. The current rules are fine, that's exactly what im saying. They protect u when u are in BR. When u are outside you are on your own.

We didnt add that because you can't add a timer while in air, or else they would be added on various places in different maps.

[black star]

sorry for going off topic but realy should remove green making much trouble and wen its boost ( the server ) evry on abuse while no admin

[ambient]

hold on there, there still some point where u cant shoot players and thats the place right after the buyroom while in air !

did u get it mate ?

15- Do not jump out of buyroom and shoot into it/Shoot people jumping out of buyroom if you are inside!
16- Any rule not listed here is not a surf rule

then u should add it to the rules. imo its only gonna confuse them cuz some admins may think that this "point" is way beyond BR. I hit the player when he almost landed on the ramp not just right in the moment we got out of BR

[Pim]

Taking stuff to seriously aren't ya?

there will always be a flaw in everything, rules, systems, literally everything has a flaw
It's the reason why hackers exist, they can find that flaw and use it to their advantage.

Same for our rules, you found a flaw and you are using it to your advantage, we can't get rid of every flaw. Yet luckily we have admins to fight that, we can't get rid of every flaw and we will just be needing common sense from our players or we will just ask our admins to use their brain for the ones who aren't

Hoped that explained something,
Pim

[ambient]

Taking stuff to seriously aren't ya?

there will always be a flaw in everything, rules, systems, literally everything has a flaw
It's the reason why hackers exist, they can find that flaw and use it to their advantage.

Same for our rules, you found a flaw and you are using it to your advantage, we can't get rid of every flaw. Yet luckily we have admins to fight that, we can't get rid of every flaw and we will just be needing common sense from our players or we will just ask our admins to use their brain for the ones who aren't

Hoped that explained something,
Pim

give me a beak dude! what common sense u are talking about? Common sense accepted on every surf server is that if u are outside a protected area u are allowed to kill. There's no flaws. Any player can buy a shotgun and use its advantage of accurate shooting in the air. I don't score frags from distance like awpers or players with rifles do, but i can kill them in the air. This is about game ballance.

And like i said no instant shooting on my part, i hit him when he was near the ramp. Mostly i manage to  take aim and shoot when a player is at least halfway to the ramp. Its not that easy as you might think, especially when guys strafe or use speed boost on the edge of buyroom.

[Santa]

Taking stuff to seriously aren't ya?

there will always be a flaw in everything, rules, systems, literally everything has a flaw
It's the reason why hackers exist, they can find that flaw and use it to their advantage.

Same for our rules, you found a flaw and you are using it to your advantage, we can't get rid of every flaw. Yet luckily we have admins to fight that, we can't get rid of every flaw and we will just be needing common sense from our players or we will just ask our admins to use their brain for the ones who aren't

Hoped that explained something,
Pim

give me a beak dude! what common sense u are talking about? Common sense accepted on every surf server is that if u are outside a protected area u are allowed to kill. There's no flaws. Any player can buy a shotgun and use its advantage of accurate shooting in the air. I don't score frags from distance like awpers or players with rifles do, but i can kill them in the air. This is about game ballance.

And like i said no instant shooting on my part, i hit him when he was near the ramp. Mostly i manage to  take aim and shoot when a player is at least halfway to the ramp. Its not that easy as you might think, especially when guys strafe or use speed boost on the edge of buyroom.

What Pim said is a fact, and very so much true.

You are just taking things so serious,You don't consider the fact that something exist in our server is called common sense , we as admins think logically and can differentiate between fair action and unfair once  !

Lets just end this up, what is going on is that u are trying to create a rule which doesn't exist Literally ! in fact its there and seems clearly , cause there are no difference of shooting someone who is in buyroom, and shooting someone jumping from the edge (0.10 meters out of buyrooom) .

Hope you Understand more.

[ambient]

in fact its there and seems clearly , cause there are no difference of shooting someone who is in buyroom, and shooting someone jumping from the edge (0.10 meters out of buyrooom) .

0.1 m is less than half a step from buyroom. I normally hit players beyond this range including that kill when i got slayed.

[Koray]

How hard is it to understand that you can't hit anyone jumping out the gunroom even if you go with him? Rules wont get changed since this got discussed many times already on this particulat map.

[ambient]

I understand that you only listen to yourself. Read the thread. Only instant shooting isn't allowed at immediate distance (0.1 m) to the edge of buyroom. I shot at you when you was just near the ramp.

[Santa]

How hard is it to understand that you can't hit anyone jumping out the gunroom even if you go with him? Rules wont get changed since this got discussed many times already on this particulat map.

I guess thats too much arguing about nonsense situation, stop being so rigorous, ur talking about some point which are forked from the rules ! rules are rules, no change will happen because of a tiny disparity between ur situation and the prohibited part in the rule !

That problem doesn't need its own rule to be fixed, the rule is clearly forked from the main rules for those who read them well !

[ambient]

Zeus did i get right an official interpretation of the rules?
here

So we're talking about instant shooting or the whole drop to the ramp counts as buyroom?
Jumpers could be as far as at this point. You could be just behind them (red dot). Shootin is allowed or not?

[Rubix]

Regardless of where you shoot from, if you just jump out and shoot in you're getting slayed.
Simple rule, simple to understand.


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