Author Topic: thend vs CC (Read 660 times)

Ray · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2014, 12:56:45 pm »

Well guys, i have a history with card before ... And i know that his rank changed him a lot...
He was a good friend when he first to came to ambrosia.. not arrogant nor rude.
Since he became moderator, he started looking down to people, then the UC rank made him look so down to people that he started to feel they are trash to him..
I do agree with every word thend and fragment said here... but demoting him is not a solution.
His attitude is actually shitty to some of the people, but as Spaff said, he's sometimes a good person that respects him.
But i actually never seen card respecting someone new to ambrosia. He only respects higher or equal ranks to him.
The solution should be for Card to learn how to respect others because he's not better than them.
Typical lebanese is arrogant and rude like card, but some lebaneses learn how to control their attitudes (example: sniper, jowy, proto, m-16, ...)
Razzi, terra and wheezy are right to resign because i have seen how card treats them here...
I'm sorry for saying this Card but you are not qualified for your rank.
You are universe creator material with your ability of fixing the servers, but you are still not qualified enough for having that rank because of your attitude and hate. You should be neutral. Well not neutral enough like "Raven" ! but neutral enough like header or tony.

Cheers,
(personal opinion)
Ray

Cersei · « **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2014, 12:58:14 pm »

I don't know how active he was or all he has done for community as I was away, since becoming HAA (btw CC nominated me) I have seen him less and less, but that does not mean his achievements should be forgotten. I really can not be that objective here as I will admit I like CC and I know his moods and such, but again I really don;t believe he should resign or be demoted, he may have some shortcomings but so do we all. As for changing after the Higher position, yes many of us do, you know why? we got more responsibilities, more work and certain things are expected from us so damn right we change.

By the way part of this is fault of Higher Staff because I am sure they could have talked to CC and advised him to be softer and more objective but as it seems it has not been done. It is not only his fault, maybe someone has made him feel that he can get away with everything he does.
I dont believe he only treats High staff and people equal with position with respect, I was a simple player and CC was still nice to me.

What I am saying is that High Staff should look into the fact that something is going on that quite few members feel is unfair and are leaving a community and come up with the solution.

Ray · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2014, 01:26:41 pm »

Quote from: Cersei on March 13, 2014, 12:58:14 pm

I don't know how active he was or all he has done for community as I was away, since becoming HAA (btw CC nominated me) I have seen him less and less, but that does not mean his achievements should be forgotten. I really can not be that objective here as I will admit I like CC and I know his moods and such, but again I really don;t believe he should resign or be demoted, he may have some shortcomings but so do we all. As for changing after the Higher position, yes many of us do, you know why? we got more responsibilities, more work and certain things are expected from us so damn right we change.

By the way part of this is fault of Higher Staff because I am sure they could have talked to CC and advised him to be softer and more objective but as it seems it has not been done. It is not only his fault, maybe someone has made him feel that he can get away with everything he does.
I dont believe he only treats High staff and people equal with position with respect, I was a simple player and CC was still nice to me.

What I am saying is that High Staff should look into the fact that something is going on that quite few members feel is unfair and are leaving a community and come up with the solution.

Dontodo hasn't, header hasn't, tony hasn't, Einstein (as far as i know him), they all didn't, but why has Card ?

NovemberRaiN` · « **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2014, 01:41:34 pm »

I've told myself that I don't really want to take a side in these conflicts, and I won't. I will remain neutral, but I feel like I have to say this. Im rather new to Ambrosia, and only ranked as an Admin in the Public server. Yet, to be honest, I get along with CC. I've play quite a lot of JB recently, and he's never been a d*ck to me. Yes, he does diss sometimes as a joke, it is his way of joking around and having fun, but when he does so, I tend to do the same to him. And guess what - he doesn't get offended when you joke around and jokingly diss or insult him, because he's not super sensitive. I'd like nothing more than to see all this nonsense aggression and violence here to stop. I'm new, I love this place, I don't want to see it going to heck.
I think everyone needs to take a chill pill, maybe take a day off from the computer, go in the wilderness maybe, clear your heads.

TeeKaaY · « **Reply #24 on:** March 13, 2014, 01:42:47 pm »

All I can say is that you really picked the worst time to bring up that issue. You could have waited some time and then present your case.
Do you know that CardClasher's father (may his soul rest in peace) passed away less than 1 week ago?
He is going through so much lately. After all no human being can take such news easily.

thEnd · « **Reply #25 on:** March 13, 2014, 01:45:07 pm »

Quote from: tonykaram1993 on March 13, 2014, 01:42:47 pm

All I can say is that you really picked the worst time to bring up that issue. You could have waited some time and then present your case.
Do you know that CardClasher's father (may his soul rest in peace) passed away less than 1 week ago?
He is going through so much lately. After all no human being can take such news easily.

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RAMBATEN · « **Reply #26 on:** March 13, 2014, 01:49:45 pm »

Quote from: tonykaram1993 on March 13, 2014, 01:42:47 pm

All I can say is that you really picked the worst time to bring up that issue. You could have waited some time and then present your case.
Do you know that CardClasher's father (may his soul rest in peace) passed away less than 1 week ago?
He is going through so much lately. After all no human being can take such news easily.

We know that and condolences are his side..

But this has been way before that happened....There are many people who has complained about his behaviour in past..But as seems he can do what he want. I dont actually care because I aint keen on CS 1.6

Alves · « **Reply #27 on:** March 13, 2014, 02:02:12 pm »

Thend, I'll give you some advice and the same goes to Wheezy, Terrabon and Rambaten.
Let it go, this shit isn't going anywhere. It's the same as banging your head against the wall repeately.
All of you guys are above this whole issue. Doesn't matter how many times you exposed situations where staff members were misbehaving. They will always get away with it because most of the staff doesn't care. In other words, they don't give a shit. So you guys do the same.
Wait for me to get my hands on csgo and I kick your ass

Until then, avoid getting pulled into this shitty situation.

black star · « **Reply #28 on:** March 13, 2014, 02:18:36 pm »

NIp is right 100% no serious action will be taken

Burzum · « **Reply #29 on:** March 13, 2014, 02:24:14 pm »

i will not defend/attack anybody

only 1 thing: when u become higher rank u need change ur character a bit. i agree that before CardC get UC rank i used to chat and joke a lot with him. and now we almost dont share a single word. but everybody has their own issues in real life, and he has being working hard on servers

maybe he changed his mod ¿?¿ ofc, when u got a high rank here a lot of ppl wanna become ur friend suddenly, so u must choose wisely ur words
also about strict, in the past i was in charge of 4 ppl working as barman in a restaurant (i was between the 2 bosses and the rest of barmen)). im the most friendly, joker, troller, funny guy ever (specially working, coz if work is hard enough, if u are in bad mood u can blow ur mind). during the work time i was serious, kinda strict, and very little jokes...... but when work ends, we went together get drunk or high or whatever. with this i mean that when u got some rank or u are in charge of some ppl (in Ambro´s case u are in charge of the community, server, staff....), u must be serious for ppl respect u (and im saying serious or strict, NOT dictatorship)

personal fights should be fixed ONLY between the 2 sides, IN PRIVATE

DonJowy · « **Reply #30 on:** March 13, 2014, 02:34:12 pm »

Quote from: NovemberRain on March 13, 2014, 01:41:34 pm

I've told myself that I don't really want to take a side in these conflicts, and I won't. I will remain neutral, but I feel like I have to say this. Im rather new to Ambrosia, and only ranked as an Admin in the Public server. Yet, to be honest, I get along with CC. I've play quite a lot of JB recently, and he's never been a d*ck to me. Yes, he does diss sometimes as a joke, it is his way of joking around and having fun, but when he does so, I tend to do the same to him. And guess what - he doesn't get offended when you joke around and jokingly diss or insult him, because he's not super sensitive. I'd like nothing more than to see all this nonsense aggression and violence here to stop. I'm new, I love this place, I don't want to see it going to heck.
I think everyone needs to take a chill pill, maybe take a day off from the computer, go in the wilderness maybe, clear your heads.

Same opinion. CC is a good guy. We sweared at each other on teamspeak when we used to play l4d2. He doesnt get offended , nor do i. Tony and him start trolling me sometimes on ts3 , but i dont get offended. I think you should take in consideration that he had a loss few days ago , and his attitude will change 180 degrees. He's passing throughout tough and bad days. He may overeact in some cases now as he's always high tempered after what happened to him. Im not saying that he doesnt sometimes act arrogant towards low/non ranked members , but he doesnt get on along on the same wave with everyone. He has to be strict to maintain problems. Every high ranked member has to be strict here. Because everyone will try to win his friendship , i mean by everyone every low/non ranked member. Its obvious , thats life. (Burzum posted that before i do

)No matter if it was real or virtual life. And its not bad if he sarcasted anyone sometimes. (He might be over-strict sometimes but its not that 'damaging' and 'toxical' for ambrosia.)

==>Don$N(+)P3R==> NinjaWaft# · « **Reply #31 on:** March 13, 2014, 02:40:47 pm »

I know card clasher since 3 years i guess.From lebanese server hes nice guy and hes really nice and ofcrs whenever some1 gets higher rank he should change his character/be more strict with the rules.And he has some real life problems which u all know thats why he changed a bit since he isnt in the mood u knw.
Ps: if u get used to cc ull find out that hes good frnd and nice lad:)
Its just my opinion!
Regards!
Sniper

tajski · « **Reply #32 on:** March 13, 2014, 02:43:24 pm »

Quote from: Burzum on March 13, 2014, 02:24:14 pm

personal fights should be fixed ONLY between the 2 sides, IN PRIVATE

The thing is that CC doesn't take this seriously enough to actually talk it down privately. He's still arrogant when someone point bad things about him and doesn't understand that this stupid cockiness of his needs to stop else everyone will leave, eventually. Those that sit all day long with him on TS3 will probably remain.

Bringing in that last event that happend to him isn't going to change everything. Just as thEnd said, there were people already pissed about him before yet everyone remained silent because we all know what would happen (getting shat and pissed on.)

thEnd and I already talked about him ages ago and I knew that this report was coming yet I wasn't assured when exactly. I'm guessing thEnd got what he wanted to create such report and I'm hoping that this guy will be removed however I know for a fact that all is going to happen will be a quick talk about his manners, act nice for couple of days/weeks and then come back to his original identity.

P.S I don't know why would you be sharing such "private" issues with the rest of the community but then please, don't use it as an excuse of your long-term shit behaviour.

Rawrplus · « **Reply #33 on:** March 13, 2014, 02:55:26 pm »

Quote from: EM0RTAL on March 13, 2014, 10:34:05 am

By the time going, I have noticed that almost everyone who has been promoted have changed. They started to act like god's and doesn't give a shit about normal members. It is true that whenever some1 gets higher rank, they change. They start acting like bosses.

Pardon me? I have never ever, in a single moment, changed my viewpoint onto things. I always was the humble, but truth-telling guy who knows how to recieve critcism and tries to work off on it to mine and community's benefits. I never shaped into somebody, who doesn't listen to opinion of members. In fact, if there was a giant uproar, you could always see me trying to come up with a solution. I never changed my face and behaviour, although I went through all sorts of power shifts, from normal member - to admin - to FM - to HA - (back to FM) - to UC - C.Leader. I currently posses the same powers as Emperors with exception they can demote me but I can't demote them, yet I still try to keep it fair and square, with no signs of cockyness. I've always tried to stay the same and be who I am. Also, a bit sillier example, but all of the emperors behave the same. I know technically they didn't get a higher rank through time but you get my point.

I won't comment on this thread any further, at the very moment, because I currently am healing from bacterial infection and am too exhausted to try to come up with something reasonable. Just wanted to say, I dunno what people see... I always stayed true to my nature, so did many others, what is your point then?

I promise I will try to put an end onto all of this mess that has been going through here while I was inactive/gone due to illness, so once my fevers calms down, hopefuly we can finally solve this situation

Kasabiii · « **Reply #34 on:** March 13, 2014, 03:25:49 pm »

I kinda started knowing CC after he got his rank and started to play in JB

To be honest , hes just too busy trolling/having fun in the server rather than administrating it , as far as i remember
People were talking arabic (including him) and no action was taken , i told the admins in admin chat to do some actions , nobody replied
he told me to stop spamming admin chat , i told him im kasabi he said i dont care stop spamming or i will ban you , thats just rude to me

(i was taking another nick and i dont have my rights atm)

thEnd · « **Reply #35 on:** March 13, 2014, 03:49:57 pm »

Hello. By sami`s initiative there was a discussion with participating persons - cc and raven.

An outcome that I understand:
CC is having a hard time and understands his overreacting actions towards me and other members. As this was upcoming fight between me and cc for more than 3 months it was eventually a bad time to come to this. CC and me have made an agreement that we both had stubborn side comments on each others direction and that was wrong. The time goes on and people will forget this as they did before.

I hope that CC will take a notes from the other guys who have posted here about the things that they dont like. Tony already done a topic about "an opinion" towards him. Good efforts. My fight was nothing but just hitting a keyboard. The facts were not false however we can live over that.

The outcome that CC understand:
Removed my warning

and also fingers crossed we will see him more nicer once he will recover from his loss. R.I.P. We all are a human beings. I had a word fights not only with CC but also recently with popay. These things happens when 2 members cant get along and settle their differences in a private. I call to everybody who is currently having an issue with CC or any other histaff member to go in ts3 or steam to settle down. Its easy as 123. Just be a mature calm and smart - the real ambrosian.

I ask for staff to solve this as we both have settled down and promised to behave and give candies to each other.
Also I suggest this to everyone else.

almighty DomiNic · « **Reply #36 on:** March 13, 2014, 04:09:23 pm »

Sorry for posting but I can't stand this/

Quote from: Mister. on March 13, 2014, 12:53:13 pm

I still remember when i had rights in servers CC was so kind towards me.Guess what.When i lost my rights i was like an unknown person for him.He acts like boss forum/servers just because he has the title.Well nope dude.3 Years already i saw many UC passing but hell yeah all of the was ready to help have a talk with you and always being friendly even towards a new member that has no reputation at all.Being a D*** just because you have the damn rank doesnt make you cool.
Lost already many members and i do believe more will come soon if no actions taken.
There is only one way to avoid all this chaos in ambrosia.
You know what to do
Peace..

P.S: If you dont have a different colour than yellow/blue dont expect relationships with CC.

Now you're wrong, me and Card get along really good, he trolls me I troll him. If you're nice to Card he is nice to you, he doesn't give a shit if you have a rank or not. Fabby, he is "yellow" and they also have a "relationship". Its not all about ranks, some cases it is but not all of it. Once you get to know Card then you'd completely change your opinion about him.

I know this hasn't really got anything to do with the report but I just couldn't stand that.

#PeaceInAmbro

EDIT - Forgot to mention that I'm also blue and I have a good relationship with most of High Staff and again I'm blue. This is probably one of the last posts about these kinda discussions that I will do, I cba with the drama all I want is to have fun.

terraboN · « **Reply #37 on:** March 13, 2014, 04:14:15 pm »

thEnd took the words right out of my mouth. But Nip has a point, nothing will change, that is why i left.

Also all the CC Friends, you have no idea. Seriously. Absolutely no idea.

Cersei · « **Reply #38 on:** March 13, 2014, 04:24:29 pm »

I think there is no need to try to farther diminish CC. As Theend said the have reached some kind of agreement. CC has just experienced a huge loss and no need to add some extra stress. What happened here was a normal case of the clash of two strong personalities. As for being friends I don;t know if we are considered friends, but I like the guy and also know that he is young and has a hot blood and can make mistakes like most of you can. Nothing in his actions demands his demotion or resignation and please don;t forget things h has done too, don't only concentrate on the bad stuff.

Ezzα · « **Reply #39 on:** March 13, 2014, 04:27:43 pm »

Terrabon there's no need to make assumptions that nothing will change. In my eyes you are all quick to run away from a problem instead or dealing/facing the problem. This is a really important aspect of life that will prepare you for the working world in a few years time. If you think this is bad wait until you get a job. Let this settle down and join back when you ready. Cc has apologised for his actions yesterday and he's accepted that maybe he was a bit too harsh