thend vs CC

[thEnd]

Admin: Staff member - Universe Creator(UC) Card Clasher (CC)
Server: Ambrosia Forums
Date & Time: Recent activity starting @ point Sharks promotion CC as UC.
Complaint: This is legitimate report regarding CC activities that causes damage to our community.

Personal statement:
I am a true ambrosian. Joined forums back 2011, but I have been a casual player since S*N. I have never done anything that would cause a major problem to ambrosia. I have been taking a part of events and staff duties with pride and taking an initiative sometimes in a form as a protest. I have resigned a couple of times as I was looking on my duty as responsibility as ambrosian to the community. The last time I resigned was when I saw CC acts of inappropriate treatment of staff members so I could freely speak out as an ordinary member not as FM or unban panel mod. I have never forgot my friends, never cheated, never overreacted. All my actions were a part of my investigation as I am working on another forum creation (no gaming). I have had mentioned that I could support ambrosia financially but kept this as off the record for the reason - I dont like to see the guys who are literary just paying for their rights. I was working my way to achieve that position without any money involvement. And I got stuck once my dearest old friend CC just turned completely different. So that's why I am sad to do this report however now I see whilst the ground zero (the public) is hot from the fuzz that is going around my report would be considered for a deeper review.


General statement:
Deflective sarcasm?
CC have done many outcomes as arrogant person who believes in the communism - he is having a right to say anything and all others are funny and wrong. The most controversial thing was that I was using a sarcastic funny remark to one of his posts "and today's lesson is.." (deleted by raven, meant that CC posted some totall offtopic in wheezys admin app) things turned out that CC warned me +25. My post was just a humor, nothing seriously abusive. LOL when CC says - get a sense of humor by him self. Yes CC must have some kind of sarcasm, unfortunately he does not. He does spam by himself and I am totally fine with that. My work as FM was never a warning spree to any off topic as I tried to keep forums nice and comfy. Ive seen many warnings towards any criticizm that CC receives.

Elimating criticizers?
[look leavers section - whezy,terra,wolverine,razzi] they all got to say something bout CC and look a simple "bye" as a joy of freedom comes in. All them been here much longer than CC. Ive been pushed through the unbelievable treatment from CC with his "not a serious note - shut up" type remarks and his warnings to me. OMG thend the spammer, really? Look a simple "gg artus" in CC eyes are spam whilst he said a simple "bye" to the people that he even dont know that good. link.
Its funny as the topic was seen by ezza, dani, todo and none of them seen any spam. And then after 2 days comes CC and LOOK thend have posted gg to old felow admin gg. SPAM! and he warned me +15 after 2 days! Its just personal towards me and others.

CSGO
Dontodo input his cash to get a brand new server - I've been suggesting this for one year!link and thanx to todo yeah, ambro finally have the server.
Issue.
I was ambitious to take the control and participate in helping todo to develop a server in a place where CC would have no control over me. As einstein managing samp, header managing minecraft, tony JB than todo is controlling HIS csgo. Dontodo asked me to come along, but wait, something happen, and I can guess who played the major role in removing me from mod of csgo board. I have experience and been pushing this for a long time. I have todo and the people support, but then there is CC and his friends who are saying - NOOO lets forget a guy who could help with not only with the posting a topics but also many more. Is it professional? I suggest CC to resign, then he could criticize how much he would want just like I did.

Question:
Is recent CC actions and posts done a good image to ambrosia? Is the threatened and resigned people done any harm to ambrosia? [look leavers section] or is it just CC with his friends in histaff back him up. Is it just CC who cant take any criticism, and I assume header as well. At least I do an open discussion, what about you guys?

***As this is genuine UC report I wish to this be locked or modified only by a higher rank. If only discussion will elaborate in a polite and respectable way. If you cant take any sarcasm or criticism - stay away.***

Please feel free to express your thoughts. I know that Im not the only one who is unhappy with CC as UC.
 I care what happens here as just we lost a few good old ambrosians and more to come if this will continue. I have always stranded my ground and I do it now. I have been a fair player and honest about anything that happened in ambrosia. We are a bunch of gamers who are hanging out in the servers, mixs and forums. We are the creators of life here. We are managed by the staff that knows their duties, but since the demo takeover looks more its more about the friendship and money, not the professionalism. Yes CC is a coder, but from now on I disbelieve that he can be something more just a coder. By giving him a warning rights and rights to decide on the general matter is no good anymore. Thats why many people when they got power are stoned to death as they are not anymore who they used to be. He is a good friend and good coder, but not suitable for taking a part of decision over ambrosia.

p.s. Just ask a question - do will CC stay in ambrosia if resigned/demoted? Who is the real ambrosian here?

Summary:
Please consider CC as one of the threats to the peaceful community. 1 engineer is worth than 1000 lives? You are wrong.

"And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell"[Matthew 5:30]


Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): quotes


SPAM:

Nice choice

gg artus

NOT SPAM:

A package !


Byebye.

Bye :*

http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=24853.0
http://www.ambrosia-servers.eu/community/index.php?topic=24854.25

[Critical]

And ım Moderated for WHAT? Dıdnt even insult anyone.

[Koray]

As the time goes people change, this isnt the CC that I rememberd and shared songs with, we were good friends but after he changed and he got more "free" since everyone is protecting him those last times and I dont know why. Or you change cc or people will start hating you more and more, and whats the point about being UC if everyone hates you?

And some people relly should stop licking cca ass .

[EM0RTAL]

By the time going, I have noticed that almost everyone who has been promoted have changed. They started to act like god's and doesn't give a shit about normal members. It is true that whenever some1 gets higher rank, they change. They start acting like bosses.

[tajski]

I'm with thEnd on this one. I don't like his arrogant behaviour that creates this toxic feeling around the community and since Demolition merged, this community had gone with some changes etc but it has gone down even deeper quite recently.

You can behave like a total di*k sometimes but acting like it all the time will get you nowhere.

I'm asking for CardClasher's demotion, just like thEnd.

[Spaff]

I'm asking for CardClasher's demotion, just like thEnd.

1 thing what im gonna say to this comment.

No.

You just need to get used to him and after that CC is a nice guy :--3

[thEnd]

I'm asking for CardClasher's demotion, just like thEnd.

1 thing what im gonna say to this comment.

No.

You just need to get used to him and after that CC is a nice guy :--3

Yeah when cc is begging you to give items for free in return for a friendship?

[Ed]

I can see where the beef is. Just to note - You were not removed from CSGO board because of CC. It is a far more complicated than you think and if I know something then CC wasn't playing any role there. Because you have a beef with him on several occasions doesn't mean that it is on everything you do that he will try to get you demoted/banned.

2 wrong's don't make 1 right.

[RAMBATEN]

CC is (as Staff member) just way too arrogant and "higher grounds" than normal Ambrosians. I don't know any other Staff member who acts like this. And his excuse for his behaviour is that "This the way I am and if you don't like it => LEAVE."

Of course there are lots of difficult cases. But the truth is CC can easily critize other ambrosians, but help god if someone critize him. It will end moderation lvl +30 . After CC abused his moderation rights , Raven fixed new Forum moderation Rules.

And proof for moderation LVL, you can see who warned me without reason last time. There it reads loud and Clear - Card Flasher. I am spy.


Requestin demotion of CC

First UC in Ambrosia.
RAMBATEN

[tajski]

I'm asking for CardClasher's demotion, just like thEnd.

1 thing what im gonna say to this comment.

No.

You just need to get used to him and after that CC is a nice guy :--3

Oh please! I've already stood against this guy, I know what he is like. Total pri*k if you ask me.. He was always arrogant to non-friend members. He is toxic so please, remove any toxicity from the community before it spreads.

[owNz]

CC, If you're a true Ambrosian you will give away your rank, Since many people are leaving because of you and your silly shi*.
And i do agree with every single word Thend have said.

Oh, please no one jump out and say "Ownz, you're no longer a member so gtfo." :/

[Koray]

I'm asking for CardClasher's demotion, just like thEnd.

1 thing what im gonna say to this comment.

No.

You just need to get used to him and after that CC is a nice guy :--3

Oh please! I've already stood against this guy, I know what he is like. Total pri*k if you ask me.. He was always arrogant to non-friend members. He is toxic so please, remove any toxicity from the community before it spreads.

Cant agree more, hes playing an angel towarda the people who he's good with and plays the devil against people who he doesnt know/like and this started happening after his promotion to UC.

[Spaff]

Well how about stop being a dlck to him?

and instead of shitting on him trying to be a nice guy? well I have to admit CC is sometimes toxic xd. but its internet, what do you expect ?

[tajski]

Well how about stop being a dlck to him?

and instead of shitting on him trying to be a nice guy? well I have to admit CC is sometimes toxic xd. but its internet, what do you expect ?

I'm not, that's the thing.. He, himself is provoking people to do it with his shit behaviour.

CC is sometimes toxic xd.

It's not sometimes, it's all the time mate.. You don't see it as you're one of his inet buddies

[Spaff]

Well how about stop being a dlck to him?

and instead of shitting on him trying to be a nice guy? well I have to admit CC is sometimes toxic xd. but its internet, what do you expect ?

I'm not, that's the thing.. He, himself is provoking people to do it with his shit behaviour.

CC is sometimes toxic xd.

It's not sometimes, it's all the time mate.. You don't see it as you're one of his inet buddies

not his "buddy" but I personally like him tho. and as I said. Its the internet. Are you guys expecting to not get insulted here?

And now comeback with nonsense sentence "it's the community no1 should insult here any1. My ass, CC is a person like every1 of us are.

And it's not all the time lol. Maybe his personality is like that. but he could stop it but why the heck would he... Doing his job is fair enough to me.
+ and instead of arguing with him, try to make him as your "buddy" try that instead of being such a dick.

[Ed]

You have no rights to spam in this topic!

[thEnd]

I like that some of staff members call me prick, but cc getting away whilst being a d***

[Cersei]

I would like to know what really happened about that CS GO server, I do not get along with Theend on forums we always disagree and even argue, but even I suggested to Todo to involve him in CS:GO servers, even though I am not crazy about his attitude at times. I do not get why if Todo was paying with his own money did he not have a rights to give the end position? I do not see The end doing some unforgivable mistakes in the past, yeah he is little full in your face etc... but I did think he deserved a chance especially because he was really rooting for CS:GO coming to Ambrosia. As for Todo I know he was quite disappointed and (I hope no one will take it personally) for me Todo is as hard working and helpful as Speckbinder was, he is always available for help and always working hard for Ambrosia.

As for Wheezy resigning I am pretty sure he told me it was cause 1.6 looked like tetris now and he has been playing less and less.

You got to realise guys that we are all humans and sometimes we can not be objective as much as we try, I do not think it's a reason to ask CC to be demoted, he got some issues in his personal life, he has been little inactive as for his attitude no one is an angel here, but I will be honest sometimes CC does take critique as a personal attack and he does make rush decisions but I think he is doing a great job. I really don't know what to say except that you two don't get a long, but without you two Ambrosia would be less fun.

[Mister]

I still remember when i had rights in servers CC was so kind towards me.Guess what.When i lost my rights i was like an unknown person for him.He acts like boss forum/servers just because he has the title.Well nope dude.3 Years already i saw many UC passing but hell yeah all of the was ready to help have a talk with you and always being friendly even towards a new member that has no reputation at all.Being a D*** just because you have the damn rank doesnt make you cool.
Lost already many members and i do believe more will come soon if no actions taken.
There is only one way to avoid all this chaos in ambrosia.
You know what to do 
Peace..

P.S: If you dont have a different colour than yellow/blue dont expect relationships with CC.

[thEnd]

I'm not saying that coding that cc does is bad. I'm not saying that ambrosia is bad.
I'm not saying that I'm perfect.

I'm saying that cc just can't continue be a major decision maker as he recently were "we, we we (meaning the realm of ambrosia?)"

Let him do coding. Make a new coder rank. Just this warning spree on me and other cc criticisers must stop.
Demotion I see as the last possible way to cease cc activities as on the previous warnings he didn't respond.
Regarding me- yea I've done a couple of word fights with some of members, but they all ended politely. I stand my ground as gentleman who is avoiding to rage. I accept my member rank as possibility to speak out about the things I don't like.
I understand the staff team that works as team. That was the reason of my stepping down to an ordinary member level because as a team reporting another member is really bad for the whole team and community. My working in a team with cc was impossible as I've seen a potential threat to the whole team.
Other word fights that I have had with Sami, popeye, fragment and Shane always ended peacefully as I always try to respect others opinions.
In this case cc haven't shown any respect and all the time trying to turn this as a joke, that I'm not worth of listening or considering. That's low. That's why I say double face. Ex friendship turned to a request of removal. And in public. -.-